The Arizona Immigration Debate

The killing of Arizona Rancher Robert Krentz and the wounding of Pinal County Deputy Sheriff Lou Puroll, at the hands if illegal immigrants, has put a laser like focus on the reaction of Hispanic citizens who profess their rights are being violated by Arizona’s new law (the law does not take effect until July).

 There is no doubt that there are those race exploiters who are taking advantage of the situation and inflaming passions. People like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Raul Grijalda, and President Obama come to mind. But, this is in keeping with the history, traditions, and practices of the progressive-socialist Democratic Party since its inception: the Democratic Party can never escape its racist heritage.

 Hispanic writers like Ernest Portillo Jr, in the Arizona Daily Star (5/2/2010), quoted legal immigrants saying that the intensity of anti-immigrant sentiment is growing. The intensity of anti-illegal immigrant is growing but just about everyone I’ve talked to is very positively pro-immigration as long as you follow the rules. As Dennis Miller once said, “We don’t mind you visiting us, just sign the guest book.”

 The biggest issue with those who disagree with the new law is that Hispanics will have to have identification to show law enforcement. If anyone is stopped by a law enforcement official for a violation of motor vehicle law, he or she has to provide a driver’s license. Federal law requires any foreigner to carry identification. Why are illegal Hispanic immigrants not protesting federal law? Ignorance and misinformation are the tools of the progressive-socialist radicals managing the protest.

If I write a check for groceries, the vendor always asks to see identification. I leased a sump pump from Home Depot the other day and was asked for my driver’s license and a credit card. What’s the big deal about showing identification?

 The big deal is that illegal immigrants cannot show they are in the country legally. The big deal is Hispanics traditionally vote with Democrats even though, like Blacks, the Democratic Party, treats Hispanics badly. The Democratic Party would like nothing better than to have illegal immigrants voting Democratic. This was proven by the use of ACORN activists by the Democratic Party during the presidential election in numerous instances of fraud.

 The Wall Street Journal article, “Killing Stokes Immigration Debate,”(5/2/2010) described a young 20 year community college student living in Mesa who was protesting the law because his family had been living illegally in Arizona for ten years. The student claimed his family will have to leave Arizona. Probably so, as he self-identified and admitted his family was here illegally. The student talked about moving to California or New Mexico. What he did not talk about was correcting the problem.

Hispanic immigrants who came to the United States legally have nothing to worry about. Only those Hispanic immigrants who came here illegally should be worried. Since there are anywhere from 12 to 20 million illegal immigrants in the United States, I’m not surprised that they are reacting.

 The repeated failure of the federal government to secure our borders makes the federal government complicit and responsible for the death of Robert Krentz and the wounding of Deputy Sheriff Lou Puroll.

 The Arizona law mirrors federal law. Why didn’t Hispanic activists react to the federal law? Primarily because the federal government did not enforce it. Arizona intends to enforce the law: thus, the reaction primarily by radical progressive-socialists and illegal immigrants.

 President Obama has called the Arizona law misguided. Does he also call the federal law misguided? Is this why his administration refuses to enforce it? Then, again, Mr. Obama has an aunt living in this country illegally.

 American citizens of Hispanic descent have started voicing their disapproval of the race exploitative reaction to the law by illegal immigrants and progressive-socialist radicals. They or their ancestors came to the United States legally and they think illegal immigrants should follow the same rules. My mother immigrated to the United States over sixty years ago. My wife immigrated to the United States over forty years ago. They followed the rules. So must Hispanic immigrants in this country illegally.

 There are two Hispanic communities in this country: the legal community and the illegal community. The legal Hispanic community must not allow itself to be emotionally swept up by race exploiters.

 As Americans, we must stand for border security and promote legal immigration. As Americans, we cannot tolerate murders or shootings of innocent people by illegal immigrants. As Americans, we must eliminate the illegal immigrant issue, thoughtfully and legally. The Arizona law is a sensible first step in the process.


Comments

  1. Close the border. Arrest all violent criminals, and deport them if they are illegal.
    But the next fxxxer that calls me a wetback just because of the way i look – I look mexican – should be shot.

  2. “The killing of Arizona Rancher Robert Krentz and the wounding of Pinal County Deputy Sheriff Lou Puroll, at the hands if illegal immigrants…”

    How do you know these were illegal immigrants. NOthing shows that now. We do know they were drug smugglers but that doesn’t mean they were illegal immigrants at all.

  3. Ok, maybe shot is too strong. Maybe just slapped around for a long time – i need to keep it PC for your virgins.
    After 911 some yahoo jumped in his truck and drove by a quick mart and shot a man in a turban. He claimed he was getting back at the terrorists. The man in the turban was a Sihk, one of the most peaceful religions around.
    How long before someone like that thinks that he is fighting for freedom, justice and the American way and detains or shoots some “mexicans”.
    It is a really sad day that I have to explain to my kids that the scowling and bad-mouthing that they hear is because we are Mex-American.
    My grandfather fought through the pacific, my family has served and fought through every war and conflict for 70 years and I have to explain the racist comments to my kids? My grandfather is rolling in his grave and by god I will not let the racism go unanswered.

  4. By the way, Sheriff Joe checks all the guests at the county jail for their immigration status. So once they are arrested, they get checked without this new law. The new law does nothing to close the border.
    The new law just “requires” police to check status in cases where they are not making an arrest. So how does that help when police will be taking time to do this while they dont have enough time to do basic police work in the first place?

  5. Stephen Kohut says

    Bob,

    It’s simple. Arpaio is one of the very few people enforcing the law. It’s not happening in most cities and counties in the state. The checks for immigration status are not being done. If you have any doubts I suggest you listen to Pima Sheriff Dupnik, The Tucson City Council, The Flagstaff City Council. S1070 eliminates the sanctuary city/county problem that enables illegal immigrant to stay here even when they are arrested. So, onward with S1070.

    All four of my grandparent immigrated legally to the US shortly before WW I. My grandfathers came first. My grandmothers had to wait until they could legally immigrate. 3 of my 4 granparents became anturalized citizens. One could not pass the English test and remained a green card resident alien all her life. My parents were the first generation born here. My father and all of my uncles found in WW II and many in Korea and Vietnam as well. My relatives are uniformly for S1070. We are a nation of laws and the laws on illegal immigration have to be enforced. There is nothign new in S1070 other than the elimination of the sanctuary mentality in local municipalities. S1070 mirrors Federal law dated to 1952.

  6. (where’s the editor???) The killing of Arizona Rancher Robert Krentz and the wounding of Pinal County Deputy Sheriff Lou Puroll, (ALLEGEDLY) at the hands if illegal immigrants, has put a laser like focus on the reaction of Hispanic citizens who profess their rights are being violated by Arizona’s new law (the law does not take effect until July).

  7. I don’t think grave sites should be used as political soap boxes.

  8. GOP Boomer Gal says

    Bob, Stop it!!! My friends of Mexican origin are FOR this law, and nobody I know gives dirty looks to people because they are brown or black.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShkpO9Rf1bo&feature=player_embedded
    Please see this video

  9. Jack Said:
    May 5th, 2010 at 11:37 am

    “(where’s the editor???) The killing of Arizona Rancher Robert Krentz and the wounding of Pinal County Deputy Sheriff Lou Puroll, (ALLEGEDLY) at the hands if illegal immigrants, has put a laser like focus on the reaction of Hispanic citizens who profess their rights are being violated by Arizona’s new law (the law does not take effect until July).”

    Arizona Daily Star article quoting Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever:

    “During testimony that day, Dever said Krentz ‘was senselessly gunned down on his own property’ and that ‘his murderer was tracked to the Mexican border, and has since evaded capture,’ according to a copy of the testimony.

    “We cannot sit by while our citizens are terrorized, robbed and murdered by ruthless and desperate people who enter our country illegally,” Dever said.

    Forty-eight hours after the killing, Dever told reporters that investigators believed the shooting was carried out by one person, but that they didn’t know if it was a man or a woman, or the person’s nationality. But Dever said they had reports that Krentz made reference to an “illegal alien” over a two-way radio he used to communicate with his brother while working that day on the southern part of their ranch.”

    Please note that neither Robert Krentz (who termed the suspect an illegal alien) nor Sheriff Dever (“We cannot sit by while our citizens are terrorized, robbed and murdered by ruthless and desperate people who enter our country illegally”) used the term allegedly.

  10. Bob,
    I truly hate that your kids are being subjected to anything vile. That is really wrong, wrong, wrong.

    Foreign nationals are required to carry identificatioin…that’s the FEDERAL law. Perhaps you’ve never been asked to produce a visa or a passport … for no real reason at all.. when in to Mexico – or Europe.

    It is disturbing that you refer to yourself as a Mex-American, and not an American. After 70 years??? Is that what you’re teaching your children??

    That makes you part of the problem – NOT part of the solution.

    The same goes for those who refer to themselves as Irish-American, German-American, etc. etc.

  11. BTW, Bob…
    Those who assassinated Indira Ghandi were members of what you call “one of the most peaceful religions around.”

  12. Oberserve says

    Hate to say but SB1070 stops a grand total of zero at the border and could have done zero to prevent Krentz murder.

  13. wanumba says

    ………………….
    Bob Says:
    May 5th, 2010 at 8:31 am
    Ok, maybe shot is too strong. Maybe just slapped around for a long time – i need to keep it PC for your virgins.
    After 911 some yahoo jumped in his truck and drove by a quick mart and shot a man in a turban. He claimed he was getting back at the terrorists. The man in the turban was a Sihk, one of the most peaceful religions around.
    ……………….

    You sure don’t know squat about Sikhs. And the uninformed yahoo didn’t either, thanks to our piss-poor education system or he would have known the difference and left the guy unharmed. Vigilante justice is never right, no matter what.

    How about some perspective too, as to the “level of violence” in the USA against foreigners?

    THe Sikhs were established in the 15th century out of the Hindus, a new caste, and finding itself and Hindus under genocidal religious persecution (convert or die) under the Muslim Mogul overlorads, they established the armed Sikh brotherhood – a WARRIOR caste. Their holy site, the Golden Temple in Amritsar is wall-to-wall murals of Sikhs in battle, valiantly slaughtering the enemy, usually Muslims. They form the Sikh Regiment in the British Army.

    Being the warrior caste, Sikhs are heavily represented in the Indian military. The separatist Sikh movement created a number of appalling terrorist incidents for India, including a commercial airline bombing with hundreds of Indians killed. WHen the Indian Army surrounded Sikh separatists who fled inside the Golden Temple, Prime Minister Indira Ghandi ordered an assault and most of the militants were killed in a last stand.

    In 1984, after this incident, Prime Minister Indira Ghandi was shot down during her morning walk, assassinated by her own Sikh bodyguards for reprisal for desecrating the Sikh holy site.

    Hindus rampaged in rage and reprisals over three days of riots throughout India, killing more than 3,000 Sikhs, men women and children.

    There would have been more Sikh deaths, but as one Hindu dryly informed us, “Well, you know, the Sikhs … they can fight.”

    I personally have been caught in the middle of Muslim on Muslim violence, raw street lynchings and worked with refugee humanitarian emergencies – the “man-made” kind. I have NEVER seen that sort of mayhem here in the USA, EVER. The culture of America is Rule of Law. Society is constantly steered and educated and formed to go to courts, not the streets. This is NOT the case in other countries, especially Third WORld nations.

    ONE knucklehead took out ONE Sikh. I feel very bad for the Sikh and his family for their totally unjust loss, but they had their day in court and the killer was convicted and sent to prison, but NO HOW in NO WAY is that isolated incident even on the same scale as what routinely happens in ethnic clashes in Africa, the Middle East and India almost EVERY DAY.

    Get a grip. You’re no more informed than the loser who shot that Sikh, so you are passing on disinformation, even if inadvertent.

    They were established out of the Hindus

  14. Carlist says

    S.B. 1070 is based on existing federal law and guidelines.

    So how is it biased against Hispanics.

    Bob and his demagogic buddies should read it!

    A personal observation: Who the hell is coming across the Southern border illegally?

    Swedes?!!!

  15. Lewd Ann says

    I don’t see anything in SB 1070 that addresses the border, home invasions, taking jobs away from US Citizens or cop killing. If you do, please let me know.

    Could it be that Pearce just hates brown folks and this is just a vehicle to harass them?

  16. To Stephen Kohut Re:
    “It’s simple. Arpaio is one of the very few people enforcing the law. It’s not happening in most cities and counties in the state. The checks for immigration status are not being done… There is nothign new in S1070 other than the elimination of the sanctuary mentality in local municipalities. S1070 mirrors Federal law dated to 1952…”
    Exactly Stephen – this law does nothing new. A bunch of people feel good about it cause it supposedly does “something”. I dont support “feel good” laws that do nothing. Your ignorance of the Constitution and Republican values is astounding. States should not carry out federal duties – just cause you and a bunch of pissy racists think passing a nothing law will make you feel good doesnt change the fact that the federal govt is obligated to defend our borders!
    Republicans dont support “feel good” laws because that is adding more regulation that is not needed. Lets see – we should make illegal aliens more illegal, thats it, that will solve everything. And there will be not profiling or racism because its illegal right?
    Just because more and more Neo Nazis start showing up at Rep gatherings like they did at Bill Montgmerys Press conf doesnt mean i will leave the party. I will just have to bring my gun.

  17. Oh yeah, and you are completely correct. Arpaio is doing the check for every one that is a guest in his jail. So the police are only being asked to go look for people that they were not going to arrest any way so they can find a reason to arrest them. That is great, but they dont seem to have enough time to arrest all the violent illegals, much less go ask the gardener a bunch of questions to find out if he is illegal. If they arrest him for something else, he is checked at the jail anyway. So other than add more tasks for the police so they can waste more time, how does this new law help?
    I think it is just to make you have some kind of fit of joy that you have overcome the dreaded “sanctuary cities”.
    Real capitalists hire who they want when they want! You wine and cheese eatin republicants need to go back to home schoolin and learn about capitalism.

  18. Stephen Kohut says

    Bob,

    My, my, what a testy nasty lefty you are. Dear me where to begin. Racist, Nazi. Oh dear. You need a lot more practice on Alinsky’s 5th and 13th tactics to play on SA. Much too childish an approach. That said I will grace you with some reason thought so you can see how intelligent discussion is done.

    The law has real teeth by eliminating sanctuary cities/counties, mirroring federal law to enable state enforcement, setting up state trespassing law and requiring enforcement. You don’t like it? Too bad.

    I suggest you go back and actually read the Constitution along with the Federalist Papers and, with those fresh in your mind, point out where the states are prohibited from passing or enforcing immigration law. It does not exist. Congress is “empowered to establish a uniform rule of naturalization”. That’s it. If you read the relevant Federalist Paper you will learn that this was done to address a failure in the Articles of Confederation in which states setup different rules for become a citizen. You will note that nowhere are the states prohibited from addressing illegal immigration and under the Tenth Amendment all rights not granted to the Federal government are reserved to the states and to the people.

    Since S1070 expressly prohibits the use of race, you seem to be using the “race” card to try and tar and feather people who disagree with you. Sorry. Not playing. I can read even if it is beyond you. I seriously doubt your presence has graced a GOP meeting but, if you come, by all means bring your gun and exercise your 2nd Amendment rights.

    “Real capitalists hire who they want when they want!” and, if that person is an illegal alien, the “real capitalist” will pay the price dictated by the law for engaging in a criminal act. You do the crime, you do the time.

  19. WE SHOULD HAVE A LAW LIKE MEXICO DOES, THEN WE WOULD NOT HAVE A ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT PROBLEM. MEXICO DEPORTS ILLEGALS AFTER THEY ARE JAILED OR PAY A FINE. THE PRESIDEND OF MEXICO HAS SOME NERVE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE ARIZONA LAW WHEN HIS LAW IS SO MUCH TOUGHER AND BRUTAL.

  20. MENA Says:
    May 23rd, 2010 at 5:25 pm
    WE SHOULD HAVE A LAW LIKE MEXICO DOES, THEN WE WOULD NOT HAVE AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT PROBLEM. MEXICO DEPORTS ILLEGALS AFTER THEY ARE JAILED OR PAY A FINE. THE PRESIDENT OF MEXICO HAS SOME NERVE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE ARIZONA LAW WHEN HIS LAW IS SO MUCH TOUGHER AND BRUTAL.

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