Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer was a recent guest on KTAR’s Mike Broomhead Show. For an elected official who really wanted to make the County Recorder’s office boring again, he has utterly failed. Nevertheless, this was a fantastic interview in which Recorder Richer hit back on the conspiracy-driven, unqualified, self-professed auditors who have been destroying election integrity here in Arizona. Here is the interview:
The latest video by Scottsdale Studios features conspiracy theorist Gail Golec in an almost 10-minute ramble about 2020 Maricopa County ballots.
Gail Golec is a Republican Precinct Committeewoman in Mirada precinct located in Legislative District 23 in Scottsdale. Her effective date was August 4, 2020 which means she was appointed by the Maricopa Board of Supervisors and her election to precinct committeeman was cancelled. She got a free ride into her elected party position. The interview is conducted by someone who goes by the name of “Michael.”
The first objectionable thing Golec says is that the Board of Supervisors is being “obstructionist.” The reality is that the Board of Supervisors must serve all citizens of Maricopa County. They do not serve a tiny pack of conspiracy theorists. Because of this, they are obligated by law to assess any/all risks of potential violations of both state and federal law. Election matters are governed by state and federal law. Turning over ballots to a tiny pack of conspiracy theorists could put the county and its citizens into a major lawsuit that could cost taxpayer millions of dollars. The BOS has to take this into consideration should they decide to expose these ballots to a tiny pack of conspiracy theorists.
This is not being obstructionists. This is not being Democrat. This is not being Republican. This is simply following good governance and the law.
Gail Golec is NOT a certified election officer with the State of Arizona. She states that she has been a PC for two years. This is not enough time, knowledge or experience to understand how elections work here in Arizona. She is not an elections attorney. In Arizona, there are only a handful of people who have an exhaustive knowledge of election law, process and procedure. I doubt that Gail Golec has even read the Election Procedures Manual issued by the Secretary of State and approved by the Attorney General and Governor.
Golec argues that the BOS will not allow the “audit” to be conducted at the Maricopa County Tabulation and Election Center (MCTEC) because the Supervisors have said that it is “our building.” What Gail fails to understand is that the building is the property of Maricopa County and the Supervisors have full and proper legal authority to control the building to the point that they can task the County Sheriff, Paul Penzone, to secure the building just like PCSO controls and secures the jail. Just because it is county property does not mean any tiny pack of conspiracy theorists can waltz into the building and take it over.
Gail then makes the claim that there is international cyber warfare taking place and moving the ballots out of the MCTEC vault will subject them to exposure. The mention of international cyber warfare is a tenet of the conspiracy theory being floated by tiny packs like this.
Gail makes the statement. “they (BOS) can run but they can’t hide” as if to suggest that the Supervisors are “on the run.” This is ridiculous. The Supervisors are very much in public continuing to govern the county while they deal with this tiny pack of conspiracy theorists. She even claims that “this crime was committed throughout the entire State of Arizona.” Golec fails to name the crime committed. The Maricopa County has not arrested anyone. The Arizona Attorney General or a Grand Jury has not indicted anyone. There is no crime.
Golec then suggests that some “honest” County Recorder should stand up and say, “I want a fair and free election in my county.” What does that even mean? Gail needs to remember that Maricopa County now has a new County Recorder – a Republican named Stephen Richer. Recorder Richer defeated Adrian Fontes, a Democrat who ran the 2020 Elections. One would think that Golec could ask Recorder Richer to find the “crime” that was committed by the former Recorder who should have won in order to cover up the crime that was committed.
Golec states that there are 16 counties in Arizona. There are actually 15 counties in Arizona. Each County Recorder knows their peers in the other counties and are part of an association of county recorders. Does Golec think one moment that someone in this group will go full blown conspiracy theorist and turn on their association peers?
The conspiracy theorist interviewer then asks Golec a question by training his fire on Attorney General Mark Brnovich (which he sorely mispronounces) suggesting that the AG is also in on the conspiracy theory coverup. The tag-team interview “question” allows Golec to cite ARS §16-624 which addresses the disposition of official returns and ballots. She then confuses ballots and the canvass (two different documents). Golec said she spoke with Recorder Richer about transferring the “canvass” to the Treasurer, John Allen (also newly elected) which did not take place. Here’s what the statute says:
After the canvass has been completed, the officer in charge of elections shall deposit the package or envelope containing the ballots in a secure facility managed by the county treasurer, who shall keep it unopened and unaltered for twenty-four months for elections for a federal office or for six months for all other elections, at which time he shall destroy it without opening or examining the contents.ARS § 16-624.A.
A few things here: The statute mentions the canvass but it clearly states, “the officer in charge of elections shall deposit the package or envelope containing the ballots in a secure facility managed by the county treasurer…” There is a difference between the canvass and the ballots. The other thing that Golec fails to understand is that MCTEC has a warehouse and vault large enough to hold the 2.1 million ballots until they can be placed under the management of the County Treasurer in the vault located under the courts at 3rd Avenue & Jefferson Street but only after any adjudication has completed. She does not say that she spoke with Treasurer Allen over the custody issue.
Golec then returns to the theme of, “we want this audit in that building” by arguing that the State Senate reigns over the County Board of Supervisors – clearly another failure to understand the role of elective bodies and separation of powers. She repeats that, “we cannot allow anything to be moved from that building (MCTEC).” Statements like this suggest that the audit is doomed to fail and the the outcome will further affirm the conspiracy theory.
The interviewer then admits on camera that he met Gail Golec during a protest at the County Recorder when “we didn’t know what was going on” and “we were just a bunch of enraged people.” He then states that she has “very quickly risen to be one of the big players of the citizenry.” The interviewer has it all wrong and Gail Golec has it all wrong. They both fail to understand election law and how our election process works.
Gail Golec self identifies as being part of the Save America Team and that “we are definitely ready to take back our country” and “we know that there was a cover-up and we know that we are going to discover it.”
Her final ramble goes on about fighting the media, censorship and contacting their Reps because of “Covid” – all signs of conspiracy theory delusion.
Here’s the full interview: