SB1070: National IDs for Arizonans?

A controversy seems to have come up among conservatives and pro-liberty activists in Arizona regarding Senator Pearce’s anti-illegal immigration bill, SB1070.

I received this nastygram on my windshield at last Thursday’s big teaparty in Tempe.

So, Naturally, I looked into it. 

I found that this amendment had been added to Russell Pearce’s anti-illegal immigration bill, SB1070.

“D.  Nothing in this act shall implement or shall be construed or interpreted to implement or establish the REAL ID act of 2005 (P.L. 109-13, division B; 119 Stat. 302) including the use of a radio frequency identification chip.”

However, I also found that this group, the Arizona Campaign for Liberty, is unconcerned about any REAL ID ramifications and specifically pointed out another  section of the bill: E. E1 and E2, in SB1070, which states:

    E. Except as provided in federal law, officials or agencies of this state and counties, cities, towns and other political subdivisions of this state may not be prohibited or in any way be restricted from sending, receiving or maintaining information relating to the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual or exchanging that information with any other federal, state or local governmental entity for the following official purposes:

    1. Determining eligibility for any public benefit, service or license provided by any federal, state, local or other political subdivision of this state.

    2. Verifying any claim of residence or domicile if determination of residence or domicile is required under the laws of this state or a judicial order issued pursuant to a civil or criminal proceeding in this state.

 Campaign for Liberty asserts that this language

…allows any state agency or political subdivision to hand over to the US Department of Homeland Security any data on any person for any license.

The Campaign for Liberty states it is not against the anti-illegal immigration measures in the bill, just this part of the bill.   The Campaign for Liberty also states that:

…this means that DPS can hand over your CCW data, the Motor Vehicle Division can hand over your drivers license data and Game and Fish can hand over your hunting license data to the US Department of Homeland Security or any federal department or agency.

Does this part of the bill create a national id?  Analysis:

It appears that the Campaign for Liberty is correct, based on the reading of the language of the bill.  There is nothing that prohibits any state agency from “exchanging” any data from any person (legal or illegal) with the US Department of Homeland Security (or any other federal department or agency) when investigating an applicant for any license (or benefit). 

It’s pretty clear that “any state agency” includes the agencies (or political subdivisions mentioned above).  It’s pretty clear that any person means any person.  It’s also pretty clear that any license includes drivers or hunting licenses.    “Shall not be prohibited” is a stronger version of “is allowed to”.      Does “any license” also include CCW?  I don’t know.

So does this in itself create a national id?  No.  But after the federal government obtains the information from Arizona state agencies, nothing stops the feds  from integrating it with all the other data they have on you and from the federal government creating a national id database out of it.

It should be noted that the “Revolution” flyer does not appear to be from the Campaign for Liberty, but from this other group.

 Personally, I am vehemently opposed to national id efforts of any kind (for any reason) on spiritual grounds.  I also oppose it on historical grounds.  National ids were part of the Clintonista agenda of the early 90s.  Conservatives opposed it at the time on the grounds of internal passports had only ever been used by totalitarian and communist governments.

Ronald Reagan was also against national ids.

I’m really concerned about SB1070.  It is simply not worth risking the liberty and privacy of law abiding Arizonans and handing over their data to the feds.  Why can’t Arizona do what Oklahoma is doing?   Apparently, the very same anti-illegal immigrations efforts are underway in Oklahoma, but the Oklahoma state legislature has figured out a way of doing the same thing without turning over the private data of law abiding Oklahomans to Obama and the US Department of Homeland Security:

The arguments that the Campaign for Liberty make are compelling.  If I were a conservative legislator posed with voting on this bill, I’d make sure that I read it first and asked some tough questions about why the privacy of law abiding Arizonans is being sacrificed to Obama (incl. CCW permit info?!?) when Oklahoma has figured out how to do the same thing without sacrificing law abiding Oklahomans’ data.

Here’s another little interesting tidbit……  It appears that our friends to the north are concerned about the same thing in Nevada.  More interesting, it appears like the vote on entering Nevada into the REAL ID program is occurring on the same day(!) that  the Arizona State Legislature is voting on roughly the equivalent in Arizona.

Also Gun Owners of America states that once the federal government has your drivers license data, they have enough information to track gun purchases!!!

“Since I need a driver’s license to purchase a gun from a dealer, BATFE would finally have its long-coveted tool to impose gun control on targeted groups — particularly under a liberal anti-gun administration. If you believe in the Second Amendment, please vote against this anti-gun monstrosity.”

Gun Owners of America clearly is against providing law abiding citizens data to the federal government.

Based on GOA’s assessment above and the fact that the Arizona MVD can voluntarily hand over your drivers license data to the feds (DPS and CCW data too?), could SB1070 inadvertently lead to gun registration? 

The risk here is too great.  In our rush to pass strict anti-illegal immigration measures, have we not paid attention to the greater concern?  Protecting our state sovereignity and our individual independence from the federal government?

Not to mention the fact that from the federal side of the fence, they plan on using the SAME SYSTEM to enable AMNESTY!   We can’t have it both ways – to use secure ids to keep illegal aliens out and at the same time use secure ids to let them in!

Does the legislature know what it’s doing?  I’m not sure it does.

Is the fringe “revolution” group who produced the flyer right?  If you take out the personal invectives and just focus on the facts, it looks like they are.



  1. Russell Pearce and Raul Grijalva are cut from the same mold. Both favor a larger, more powerful, and intrusive government. Both are bad for Arizona.

  2. SmartestOne says

    OBERSERVE: Wake up! What world do you live in?

    Patriot Acts I and II gave the feds explicit permission to monitor EVERY phone call, e-mail, etc. in this country. NSA has HUGE centers set up in D.C., W. VA, and Denver to do just that!! Obama has a “czar” whose job is to go through every e-mail transmission!! In fact, the NSA has been monitoring U.S. citizens’ phone calls since the 1970s (Nixon era).

    Do some research (Google is a good start), and you will see that all of this is true.

  3. ……………..
    “Obama has a “czar” whose job is to go through every e-mail transmission!”

    Hate to see the size of his morning IN-BOX.

  4. Oberserve says

    Smartest, that may be the case. Even if it is, the state of Arizona shouldn’t volunteer to hand over data from it’s law abiding citizens to the feds.

    Isn’t the Republican Party and Russell Pearce supposed to be pro-states rights and conservative?

  5. @ Oberserve: Perhaps the Republican Party of old. I can’t quite get a grasp on what’s going on with this party. They scream “NO BIG GOVT” but pass legislation to spy on its citizens. They scream “NO MORE SPENDING” but put us in the worst recession ever.

    It’s maddening to think that we’re just the butt of a very cruel joke.

  6. Since SB1070 passed, I’ve decided to spend all my time on the field, talking to my fellow Latinos. Making sure they know the implications of this new law. Even tho, I know it will be challenged, my rage is not at this racist act called SB1070. What pisses me off, is that it actually became law and the bigots that supported it’s vagueness. But then that doesn’t surprise me, history can back me up on that one.

    Our broken border is a problem, but also an opportunity, Which is why it has never been resolved. Over 5,000 immigration bills in five years have been approved and to what end?…nada, my people keep coming. If they were serious about this issue, maybe, just maybe, if they punished those that hire a hard working illegal, they’d have a slighty different outcome. But then our politicians would no longer have that ace up their sleeve, when they need a little time or a distraction. In this case it’s a power struggle.

    But I’m more pissed at us as Latinos, so many of us and so divided. We see no one but ourselves, our family and our friends and where has that gotten us. I mean that with LOVE. What I’m trying to say, is that it’s time we reach out to one another, patronize Latino merchants, push our children to learn. And stop watching channel 34, they just keep us stupid and the men horney.

  7. Grant Hunker says

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    The link and embedded video are pasted below.
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    Thanks for your time,
    Grant Hunker (director)

  8. SB 1070 doesn’t change anything. Arizona already shares this data with the DHS, and it is managed by private companies that are foreign owned (L-1 might be an improvement). I’m not saying I approve of that arrangement because the privacy issues are very real, but 1070 makes no difference.

  9. Pierre F. Lherisson says

    Anyone living in any geographical location on this planet including in USA should have a standardized means of identification that is acceptable the same way we accept a dollar bill as a genuine document. whether the person is “undocumented or over documented”, whether the person is infants or adults, unless a de facto policy encourages some citizen to equated certain person or group as 3/5 of a person while dogs and other pets have ID. This is a human right issue.
    A person without an ID card might be subject to untimely death during some extraneous or unusual circumstances such as Alzheimer patient who is missing; a patient that was rushed at an hospital emergency room for a potential life threaten case and died there because the hospital could not find the pertinent medical information about the person

    The usual predators erected a wall of subterfuge against the national identification ID card on the pretext that it is affronts to liberty .Those who object to a national ID have acceptable means of ID. They pointed out that in times of crisis such classifications facilitate the targeting of persons on the basis of group affiliation, making individuals readily identifiable for possible detention, deportation, or death.
    Some argues that the standardized Identification card will allow the government to have full control over the live of anyone who live under its jurisdiction.
    Such argument fails to realize that government, and private sectors, have a wealth of information on us and they have modern technology at their disposal to control our spiraling eroding liberty. Some of those methods are done surreptitiously some are public knowledge. Some are done selective while many are done indiscriminately.
    The government and the private sector have been using information, document and devices such as: driver license card who is a de facto internal passport in the U.S, car license plate, EZ Pass, non driver ID, Post Office mails, e-mail, web sites we visit, credit and debit cards, metro cards, medical insurance cards, credit reports, medical records, land line telephone, cable TV, cellular telephones, panoptic devices to name a few.

    The so called undocumented are here with the duplicity of the business community that use them as strike breakers and to undermine the labor unions.
    A percentage of the undocumented is working at a starvation wages and is compelled to live here in substandard conditions while their employers are reaping the profits exponentially, and leads opulent lifestyle. It is primary an economic issue with immigration ramifications.

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