Racism Organized in the Latino Community Begs Review

4/4/09
by Gayle Plato. M. Ed.

A number of Main Stream Media (MSM) agencies are reporting and commenting on the racist attitudes of Arizona law enforcement, with our own Sheriff Joe Arpaio, and Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas getting the brunt of the attack. The claim is that actively observing, or arresting any Latino is a racist act taken on by bigoted white men. Even House Speaker Nancy Pelosi insinuated racial discord in her comments back home in San Francisco area at a local town hall meeting. We do not want to break up families said Ms. Pelosi. Implying that criminals are parents first and murdering felons last All of the Anglo authorities feel pressure to tip toe and arrest only under politically correct standards. Yet, is it not racist to IGNORE the crime of the Latino community so rampant now?

Phoenix is the leading city of kidnapping. This is not kidnapping of white children outside of a Target store; it is drug trafficking crime foisted by Latinos on themselves. This is the worst kind of racial profiling possible and the seed of much historical riot and revolution of racial tension.

On this day, 41 years ago, Dr. Martin Luther King was gunned down. While his importance risks being lost as something more of legend, I see his vision as of commonality as brothers with a desire for nonviolence in society.

Dr. King understood that racial upheaval and crime in communities hurt the locals first and foremost. So today, we see Latino activists angry that peers are being profiled, labeled, and targeted as felons. But in reality, it would be immoral and evil for the elected officials to ignore the crime and just write it off as a Hispanic problem. Dr. King fought and gave his life to see just that level of racism abolished.

I put forth that the community organizing activity is nothing but bigotry on one’s own. Like abortion touted to women of color, the population is being conned into feeling like second class citizens. No Latino man or woman should be afraid to go out in public, nor worry about getting caught in the crossfire of local drug war and human smuggling. No Latino should feel like a victim just because of his race and the impotent community activists stirring up controversy. The Posse and the prosecutors are not the ones killing innocents. They are doggedly trying to cut the crime in this town.

Imagine if hundreds of Anglo families in Scottsdale or Cave Creek were being stalked, taken, held hostage, and some killed. Imagine if all of the upper middle class moms driving kids to school and soccer risked a significant chance of being injured in gang violence. See the white boys and girls afraid that their fathers might be picked up by beheading gangs. The citizens would be raging against the system for NOT going after the criminals with a vengeance. Even if the criminals were white guys killing white citizens, we would stop at NOTHING to capture the violent perpetrators and prosecute with ultimate haste. The rest of you, well, you are being conned into submission.

Do Latinos really believe the steaming piles of discontent droppings plopped? All citizens of any race should be furious with the crime, yet not buying into being the victims. We all must start working together to stop the bloodshed and absolute terrorism leaching up from Mexico. We need to start applauding the hero enforcers who are underpaid, at highest risk, and completely vilified for doing nothing more than aggressively saving the citizens and the aliens from themselves.

“In struggling for human dignity the oppressed people of the world must not allow themselves to become bitter or indulge in hate campaigns. To retaliate with hate and bitterness would do nothing but intensify the hate in the world. Along the way of life, someone must have sense enough and morality enough to cut off the chain of hate. This can be done only by projecting the ethics of love to the center of our lives.” Dr. Martin Luther King


Comments

  1. Gayle,

    Thanks for looking out for the Hispanics. They just don’t understand that we are looking out for their best interests. It is especially important that they understand that though they may not have caused a crime the best way to prevent a crime against them is to treat them like a criminal based on their last name or color. Of course the Hispanicss that live in Scottsdale and Cave creek, the proffessionals, or Veterans, also need to understand that when they get singled out it is in the best of interest of the Hispanic in Maryvale, after all they are exactly similar.

  2. Affinity fraud was rampant during the housing boom; Hispanics lenders, escrow officers, and Realtors cannibalizing their community. The huge question is this: will the corrupt culture of of Mexico invade our streets and homes?

    Who can or will stop it? This is not about the guy who mows lawns, works in the tire shop, or the woman who cleans houses, takes in ironing, or makes tortillas.

    There are two classes of illegals; those that really are looking for a better life and those who will capitalize on the better life.

  3. Lisa,

    To quote Buffy Summers – now you’re just abusing sarcasm. 😉

  4. Gaye, you wrote, “I put forth that the community organizing activity is nothing but bigotry on one’s own.”

    I wonder if Cesar Chavez would have agreed?

  5. I can’t speak for him but he was clearly concerned for Latinos being victimized by crime as well as organizing the worker.

  6. So Gayle, your thesis is that anyone who is of a particular race and takes up an issue with that specific race is a racist – or at least is tinged by racism.

    If we were to use the abolitionist movement as a template then, we could say John Brown and Harriet Beecher Stowe were NOT racist, but Frederick Douglass and Harriet Tubman were racist.

    It is entirely possible – and for the greats like Douglass, Chavez, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, to fight for a cause that obviously helps them – but also helps the soul of a nation. To quote Douglass: “I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong.”

    It is also a convienient right-wing trick to pretend that MLK saw society as color-blind. He did not:

    “It is incontestable and deplorable that Negroes have committed crimes; but they are derivative crimes. They are born of the greater crimes of the white society.”

    He looked forward to the day when people would be judged on the content of their character – but he did not pretend that was the world he was living in, nor was he blind to the two worlds that existed (and in some ways still exist) in America.

    “The Negro needs the white man to free him from his fears. The white man needs the Negro to free him from his guilt.”

    Again, two worlds, each needing each other. Lisa’s point is echoed in King’s remark. Anglos and Latinos in Arizona need each other. Latinos don’t need the Anglo to guide them along to the civilized path. Leave the ghost of Rudyard Kipling be.

  7. “Will the corrupt culture of Mexico invade our streets and homes.” Ann its not the culture that is corrupt it is the government. American’s aren’t corrupt because of the greedy bankers, and congressmen that set up the ponzi scheme the government and bankers are. If anything the “Hispanic” that practiced affinity fraud should be applauded. The have assimiliated quite well to our superficial, money driven culture.

    Lastly, Hispanics are not all the same! Some Hispanic families have been living here for over 400 years. Stop treating them as if the all act and live in the same areas of town. Pulling over every Hispanic and asking them their immigration status will not solve anything, it will only make good brown skinned Americans not trust their government.

  8. Scott Zalaznik says

    Gayle,

    are you kidding me? seriously, are you kidding me? I suppose you won’t mind if Sheriff Joe and his masked offenders of the Constitution pull you over routinely, ask for your license, registration, search you and your car will you – with your appearance being the only probable cause? I mean, it’s for your own good and you might be the key to solving a cold case. Is this the new conservative mantra – community protection over individual rights. Yup, go posse go. just go. I don’t know how any true conservative can tolerate the tactics of the MCSO. LEO’s are charged with enforcing the law – not believing they are the law and/or above it. Big difference, a true conservative understands the danger in that difference.

    You are kidding me, right?

  9. Veritas Vincit says

    From Wikipedia: “… People with racist beliefs exhibit stereotype-based prejudices towards individuals and groups of people according to their race. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or get preferential treatment.”

    What racial groups are being denied rights or benefits by Arizona law enforcement?

    Persons residing in Arizona without legal status or documentation (individuals outside the law) are the subject of interest to Arizona law enforcement.

    Where is race in this argument?

  10. Veritas Vincit says

    Gayle, I’m glad you mentioned abortion in connection with racism, since over 40% of the terminated lives lost due to abortion come from a racial group representing less than 14% of the total population.

    It almost looks like abortion in this country, as well as drugs has a racist foundation – could it be?

    But then again, Nancy Pelosi represents a political party that has learned how to manage the Plantation System and works it to perfection.

  11. Veritas Vincit says

    Klute (post #6) … Hate to break it to you, but profiling works. Cops don’t stop *every* Hispanic, only the ones who fit the profile.

    Good friends of my family are as “illegal” as you can get, never been stopped and its been going on 11 years now. Oh, and they are quite Mexican too.

    Point is, there are other elements to a profile other than skin color – and advocates of an open border simply use “racism” as another tool for their vision of social change.

    Too bad TSA doesn’t profile at the airports.

  12. Lets remind all our brave Latino armed forces veterans, the cure for racial profiling is the 2nd amendment!

  13. VV,

    Hey, Kim Jong-Il’s PRK is also very good at keeping “undesireables” out. Since it works, maybe we should implement North Korean-style totalitarianism too?

    Because something “works” doesn’t make it good.

    Oh, and ask my friend Tufik Shayeb about how the TSA “doesn’t profile”. He’s an 22-year-old Arab male (Christian, incidentally, not Muslim), and has to allow himself an extra 2 hours to fly – because he always gets pulled and always has to endure the full TSA probe.

    “Good friends of my family are as “illegal” as you can get, never been stopped and its been going on 11 years now. Oh, and they are quite Mexican too.”

    And if they do – what then? Do you think Sheriff Joe will let them off with a wink and a nod because they’re good friends of your family?

  14. VV,

    The founders of Planned Parenthood including the friend of Barry Goldwater, Mary Sanger, were well-known to promote abortion as a form of genocide of the ‘undesirable’ races.

  15. Prejudice is not good and never will be. Police officers that pull over someone, then treat the person rudely or unfairly are just wrong. I am not talking about abusive tactics. But then, all professions have dead weight.

    As a former teacher, I can attest to meeting a few who should have left the field, but then most were dedicated. Nonetheless, the profession of teacher gets very skewed by the few deviants who taint the good works.

    Frankly, all traffic stops are about the driver meeting criteria. You know for a fact that any young man driving a red sports car is MUCH MORE like likely to get stopped than a plump mom in a mini-van. Is that prejudice?

    Then again, the pretty blond with a big um smile or whatever in front of me at the car wash got LOTS of attention and extra polish on her car –way more than I did. Was that prejudice by the young guys there with drool, rubbing rags on her hood?

    Life is all one big profile and we each deal with it every day. Me, I have learned that being a nameless demographic with little first impression grace, I can be highly underestimated. That in and of itself is a great gift.
    This soccer mom, with crow’s feet, and underdeveloped style, is BACK and I am not playing vicitm. I recommend all that feel prejudice stop buying in. It is a con.

    BTW, can an officer tell your race from the sidelines or behind when you’re going 50 miles and hour down the road? Come on.

    Daniel Hannen, the British representative to the EU now youtube sensation, said something interesting about the anarchy crowds out in London during the G-20. They were in a mutual interview and the crowd organizer there with him was clearly shouting out what the group is against. Hannen then asked him what are you for?

    I ask you all this–what is your solution regarding anyone pulled over? Do you really think all assessment and profiling is racist? So me being a middle-aged, overwight woman doesn’t put me in a category?

    Tell me, does your political party poll people and look at demographics? Do you as a parent assess your kids friends when you meet them based on a profile?

  16. “Frankly, all traffic stops are about the driver meeting criteria. You know for a fact that any young man driving a red sports car is MUCH MORE like likely to get stopped than a plump mom in a mini-van. Is that prejudice?”

    This is a total dodge Gayle, and you’re smarter than this.

    No it’s not prejudice, because the police officer isn’t pulling the young man over because he’s a young man in a red sports car. He’s getting pulled over because he’s speeding or running a red light. The infraction causes the pullover, not some sort of pre-emptive strike.

    “BTW, can an officer tell your race from the sidelines or behind when you’re going 50 miles and hour down the road? Come on.”

    Depending on the angle you’re coming at them, yes. And Sheriff Joe isn’t doing his “safety” patrols on the I-10. He’s doing them at slow speed intersection in places where Latinos are known to be at. It’s funny how Joe isn’t worried about “safety” down the street from me at Camelback and Scottsdale. I guess we Scottsdalians are just generally safe people, right?

    “I ask you all this–what is your solution regarding anyone pulled over?”

    We’re not talking about people being pulled over for speeding or driving unsafely. We’re talking about people being pulled over for infractions that would normally not even be considered for a traffic stop.

    Or AMERICAN CITIZENS getting pulled over and papers being demanded to show their citizenship:

    http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2009/04/us_house_287g_hearings.php

    But you’re right, Gayle. He just smile and nod – because you’d obviously put up with being zip-tied and deputies demanding you prove your citizenship, right?

    http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2009/04/us_house_287g_hearings.php

  17. “Frankly, all traffic stops are about the driver meeting criteria. You know for a fact that any young man driving a red sports car is MUCH MORE like likely to get stopped than a plump mom in a mini-van. Is that prejudice?”

    This is a total dodge Gayle, and you’re smarter than this.

    No it’s not prejudice, because the police officer isn’t pulling the young man over because he’s a young man in a red sports car. He’s getting pulled over because he’s speeding or running a red light. The infraction causes the pullover, not some sort of pre-emptive strike.

    “BTW, can an officer tell your race from the sidelines or behind when you’re going 50 miles and hour down the road? Come on.”

    Depending on the angle you’re coming at them, yes. And Sheriff Joe isn’t doing his “safety” patrols on the I-10. He’s doing them at slow speed intersection in places where Latinos are known to be at. It’s funny how Joe isn’t worried about “safety” down the street from me at Camelback and Scottsdale. I guess we Scottsdalians are just generally safe people, right?

    “I ask you all this–what is your solution regarding anyone pulled over?”

    We’re not talking about people being pulled over for speeding or driving unsafely. We’re talking about people being pulled over for infractions that would normally not even be considered for a traffic stop.

    Or AMERICAN CITIZENS getting pulled over and papers being demanded to show their citizenship:

    http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2009/04/us_house_287g_hearings.php

    But you’re right, Gayle. He just smile and nod – because you’d obviously put up with being zip-tied and deputies demanding you prove your citizenship, right?

  18. Veritas Vincit says

    Klute, shame on you… and I thought you could employ better logic. I was mistaken.

    Your opening line in post #13 is a complete fallacy and, a non-sequitur.

    First of all we’re not discussing “undesireables” or keeping anyone with legal status “out” of anything. This is your first sin fallacy.

    In fact we are speaking of individuals with or without legal status to be here. No one has made any judgment call as to desirable or undesirable except you. Nice try. The dialectic works two ways.

    Second; its a fallacy here to compare attempts at enforcement of civil laws with something as extreme as Korean totalitarianism. We’re talking about Hispanic v. Hispanic crime and violence and, by looking the other way and ignoring it in the name of “racism” (please, look the term up), is as the blogger correctly pointed out, racist.

    Oh, and fyi … I get the full TSA treatment every time I fly too, only for medical reasons. I guess having a medical device makes me a terrorist?

    ron, my grandmother was one of Margaret Sanger’s first poor immigrant test cases in planned parenthood back in New York circa the early 1920’s. What was Ms Sanger? A white liberal/progressive racist who truly hated the immigrants and preached, or “out-reached” to them to practice birth control. My grandmother spoke of her often.

    Gayle, (post #15) … Bravo! You get the 5th of November Award for honesty.

    Klute, (post 16) nice try. Don’t quite your day job. Your fallacy is ad hominem’ “This is a total dodge Gayle, and you’re smarter than this”

    In various Valley neighborhoods even Klute could spot the illegal aliens loitering on the street corners. Immigration laws remain “LAWS” to be enforced, and often lead to the arrests of some of Mexico’s less than stellar citizens roaming our streets.

    I doubt Canadian snow-birds have to worry about Sheriff Joe, just as most of my Mexican neighbors (and grandson’s Little League coach) have to worry about Sheriff Joe either.

    As Gayle correctly suggests, skin color isn’t the primary tag law enforcement notices.

    BTW, the stats prove that red vehicles are pulled over more than beige mini-vans. My wife, who is over 45 was pulled over 5 times within two weeks of getting her sports car a few years back. Profiling and meeting the criteria. (no, she never got a ticket – it was just the woman in that kind of car)

  19. Veritas Vincit says

    Hispanics are even racist against each other. Ask a Mexican from one of Mexico’s northern states about Mexicans from the states south of Mexico City. Listen and watch the reaction.

  20. Veritas Vincit,

    It does not matter what kind of logic games you play. If you pull over Mister Rodriguez because because he fits the “profile” of an illegal immigrant, without any proof, it is racial profiling. Just because Mr. Rodriguez, is Hispanic, Brown Skinned, and in the wrong neighborhood is not a reason to pull him over and give extra scrutiny. America is better than that. And for all you that think you can spot an illegal imigrant I suggest you visit Post 41 or look at a picture of Sylvester Herrera and say that. BTW just because Mexicans are racist to each other does not justify us doing the same.

  21. I am not a fan of Arpaio’s tactics or his rhetoric and on top of that I think the guy really needs to try Head and Shoulder’s and invest in a lint roller…those close-ups on the big screen are really gross with the loads of dandruff and hair on his jacket.

    With that poignant comment, I will get to my point…his actions do not validate a reciprocity of escalated bad acts by others. Illegal is illegal. Promoting illegal actions and acting on that plan is conspiracy.

    The color of skin is not the issue, it is the legality of their entry and continued habitation without permission. If we had an influx of German illegals that had escalated the amount of violent crime would it be wrong if the police, when noticing a middle aged man wearing short shorts, a tucked-in button down shirt, and colored socks with sandals, gets into a car with expired tags then pulls him over? If in the regular traffic stop they ran the fair skinned gents name and discovered…expired visa should they act?

    It is an easy mark to call it racial profiling or racist. So I will make the same request of Lisa and Klute that I have made to those who decry Gov. Brewer for her proposal of a possible tax increase but have offered no alternative…what should be done to eliminate the scourge of crime and disorder that is being brought into our community by some, certainly not all, illegals from Mexico?

  22. Ann,

    Here’s what America can do:

    Step 1: Legalization/decriminalization of marijuana. Take the cartels’ legs out from under them – choke off their money supply.

    Step 2: Freedom from deportation for illegals to participate in the legal system – illegals can report crime, testify in trials, work with law enforcement without fear of being rounded up by MCSO or ICE.

    Step 3: Non-punitive paths to citizenship.

    Step 4: Military intervention into Mexico – not a full troop committment, but logistical, air, and intelligence support. Mexico itself has to be stabilized.

  23. VV,

    “Second; its a fallacy here to compare attempts at enforcement of civil laws with something as extreme as Korean totalitarianism.”

    Why? Racial profiling is technically illegal. You say it works – therefore should be considered. So, if something is illegal, and illegal equals bad, but the same thing “works”, why should we take anything off the table that is “bad” but “works”. Do some of us here not worry that illegal immigration represents a clear and present danger to the safety of the United States?

    “In various Valley neighborhoods even Klute could spot the illegal aliens loitering on the street corners.”

    No, I couldn’t. Maybe I could spot Latinos, Anglos, African-Americans – but I don’t know their status.

    “Oh, and fyi … I get the full TSA treatment every time I fly too, only for medical reasons. I guess having a medical device makes me a terrorist?”

    You get the full treatment I imagine because you’re setting off metal detectors without obvious reason. The only detector Tufik sets off is someone’s “profile” detector.

    “Hispanics are even racist against each other.”

    What’s your point? Because other Mexicans are racist against other Mexicans its permissible to have racist elements in our law enforcement or government?

  24. The marijuana issue falls on deaf ears with me, like Heroin or Cocaine aren’t profitable and just a minor adjustment for the enterprising drug lord.

    So, would legalizing polygamy stop adultery?

    Lisa…how about you? Or does your interest end at slamming others and calling names based on your perception of who they are and what they believe in?

  25. “The marijuana issue falls on deaf ears with me, like Heroin or Cocaine aren’t profitable…”

    Except you don’t need the amount of processing in marijuana that you need in heroin or cocaine, and marijuana is extremely profitable. Marijuana involves 1. growing the plant, 2. drying it. The other two involve far more work.

    “So, would legalizing polygamy stop adultery?”

    No, since the difference between polygamy and adultery is one involves a lifetime commitment and the other an afternoon.

  26. Klute, just worth noting that contrary to what VV and others claim, racial profiling in fact does not work and every close look at the issue has born this out.

  27. Whether any of you want to face it, people are being murdered, taken against their will, and many in the community live in fear. Any community under attack requires a police force to watch, listen, and track those coming and going.

    What does the local police do if a rapist is out? There is a profile and anyone fitting it gets watched. If that doesn’t work then the entire neighborhood is tracked, door-to-door notifications, educating the people, and everyone is under watch.

    I have yet to hear one solution offered by any here or elsewhere who complain. Trying to fix a crime ridden situation after it happens, once it is out of control, is always a bad reality–it’s bad because everyone wants to to control some aspect and make it all go away.

    Some want the illegal aliens go away, some want the police force to go away, others still want the citizens to go away.

    No matter where you come from in this, no matter how you slice it, there are two realities: there are illegal aliens here and there is rampant crime in the illegal and legal population that is a mixed origin Latino base.

    Other factors that cannot be denied- the police are vastly outnumbered. The police are not respected as they are put in the position of defending the people there and try to stop the crime. At minimum, they are reactively trying to catch criminals.

    I still ask you this: What is your solution to attack the crime problem while not abusing or offending any community member who may be talked to, stopped on the street or in a car? Also, how do we confront the illegal alien problem as it is? Mexico is becoming more dangerous, and the border issues are effecting all communities.

    With that, how do we do all this in a recession economy, with huge budget cuts that are an absolute and coming no matter what anyone debates, and how do we get along with each other without any violent attacks of either the innocent people nor the targeted police?

    Some of you are rabid debaters–why don’t YOU apply for the police academy and try to be an example by offering your values and fair handed solutions on the front lines? We need good men and women who believe in the community to help turn it around. Talk and debate is quite cheap. What are you willing to DO?

    What is your solution?

  28. Veritas Vincit says

    Lisa? I spent this afternoon at Tucson Electric Ballpark with half a dozen other parents watching our school beat the local home team. Funny thing about this is, most of the folks I was with are Latino American, and none of them have ever been pulled over due to skin color. You have no clue as to how many “Hispanics” I affiliate with – none of whom would agree with you at all.

    Profiling is more than skin color – although that’s what you’ve been brainwashed to believe. Hey, if it floats your boat, why not?

    Ann; I spend this morning in a meeting in which other alternatives were discussed to just a tax increase. Here’s the scoop: the state’s budget splits into 3 general categories; one the legislature has control over, one that’s under funded federal mandates, and one that’s voter locked in by law mandates.

    The cuts previously were in the one third that the legislature has control over.

    What has to happen is that before Brewer does the tax dance, we as the voters need to release the one third of the budget locked up by initiative. Then there’d be 2/3’s of the budget to slim down. Concurrently, the state needs to cease any federal mandates that aren’t fully funded. We can always resume them once the administration releases the funds.

    Klute, the Zetas don’t make their money on marijuana. As for giving law breakers a head of the line over folks who’ve waited legally to get in? NEVER happen. No one likes line cutters –

    And if you choose to quote me, please be accurate. I said *PROFILING* works – YOU added *racial*

    Can you ever be intellectually honest?

    See? you did it again. “…I imagine” The fact is, when you have a medical condition you are issued a medical card which you present before entering the security gate. See, your imagination was wrong again.

    Todd – you fell into Klute’s fallacy. If you wish to assert please provide the research link. Profiling works and is proven to work … just don’t add the word *racial* because there are many other factors in a person’s profile.

    Todd? Did you know that in the great database of the marketing world, there’s a complete profile of you? Every time you use a bank card, sign your name to a receipt or other transaction a record is made and into the marketing profile you go. Oh! my! The big bad marketing companies use race too! That’s way you’ll see malt liquor billboards in some neighborhoods and none in others.

    Profiling, proven to work since 1949.

  29. The legally obligated budget is problematic and the hope of relief is…well, like getting you and Klute to agree.

    The call for an election, the timeline to meet the statutory requirements and the need to get a budget on the books may be contrary. When the spin hits that prop 105 is the only thing keeping meanies from looting programs for kids and sick people…OUCH!

    Blood-letting and gnashing of teeth….no winners, only lots of bruised egos and political careers gone down the tubes.

    The person(s) that can figure out how to legally craft the verbiage of the ballot question repealing the 105 restrictions but leave some things intact so as to soften the blow…they win the whole shootin’ match! And so does the state.

  30. VV,

    “Klute (post #6) … Hate to break it to you, but profiling works. Cops don’t stop *every* Hispanic, only the ones who fit the profile.”

    “And if you choose to quote me, please be accurate. I said *PROFILING* works – YOU added *racial*

    Can you ever be intellectually honest?”

    Can you? It is/was a common right-wing rhetorical trick to never actually say word X… use every euphemism in the book, and then say (in tones such as above) “I never called you ‘word X'”, when it’s obviously been implied.

    What profile is being used? That “they don’t stop every Hispanic” is obvious… How many white people got caught up in these stops? How many were asked their citizenship?

    And what planet are you on that Mexican cartels don’t make money from marijuana – are you channeling Chewie?

    http://www.opposingviews.com/articles/opinion-only-way-to-stop-mexico-drug-gangs-is-to-legalize-marijuana

    “The chief of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s Mexico and Central America Section recently told the New York Times that marijuana is the “king crop” for Mexican cartels, because it “consistently sustains its marketability and profitability.”

    Unless you’re referring to a specifc gang, which – hey you got me there, I’m not up to date on every Mexican gang operating in the United States and Mexico.

  31. VV,
    First of all my message was to Klute who is more than capable of finding the information. I have no desire to disabuse you of your bad ideas. I do think that if Gayle and yorself want to promote the idea that people should be targeted by law enforcement simply for their perceived ethnicity or religion then it is incumebnt on you to demonstate that this would actually have some benefit. Of course at that point we can discuss what is racist.

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