“Conservatives” Angling for a NEW National Tax?


Right when we should be CUTTING spending (not just the rate of increase, but ACTUAL spending) and lowering taxes, certain elements of the RNC and “think tanks” are angling not just to keep existing spending and taxes going but ADD an entirely NEW federal tax for us to pay.

What the heck is going on, aren’t we in the midst of a teaparty?

Is a European Style VAT Tax the GOP’s Answer to the Growing Federal Funding Crisis? 
With all the GOP candidates fussing over Mitt Romney and his track-record at Bain Capital, does it not strike anyone as odd that none of them are putting the screws to the Massachusetts Republican in debates over his unwillingness to rule out a European-style Value Added Tax (VAT)?
Mitt and VAT (Valued Added Tax)
While Romney says he doesn’t want to go down the path of European socialism, in a recent Wall Street Journal he did not rule it out and even suggested that it might be an option.
The lack of clarity on this subject is ominous given that a VAT is probably the only way to come close to funding the federal government at its current levels of outrageous spending. Since none of the other candidates are forcefully calling Romney out on the VAT issue, I suspect an eventual Republican betrayal on establishing a VAT tax is likely.
As a reminder, a VAT would tax goods at ALL layers of production, from their origin as raw material to manufacture to final product.
Rising levels of federal deficit spending create momentum toward the VAT “solution.” Debt-addicted central governments in Europe and the United States have no intention of dealing with the true causes of the financial crisis.
To get to a VAT from here, all the political class needs to do is wait around for a “responsible” Republican to come around and act as a tax collector for the welfare state. My point is the Big Government people have already established the new unsustainable spending baselines.   All they need now is a gullible Republican to come in and “do something.” Paralysis and dysfunction are their friends, because it will lead to a crisis that may well result in the imposition of the VAT tax.
Interestingly, the imposition of a VAT by the federal government is currently illegal and unconstitutional.
So, how do they implement it?
So, what does “balanced budget” mean?  To you, me, the teaparty, and normal people it means to bring spending in line with revenues.  I.e. don’t spend more than you have.
But once you enter the twisted mind of a politician, “balanced budget” means RAISING REVENUE to match the amount of money you WANT TO SPEND.
a) imposition of a VAT by the federal government is now illegal and unconstitutional,
b) congress and certainly our state legislature lacks any will or spine to CUT REAL spending (not just rates of increases), and
c) it requires a constitutional amendment to pass this new tax,
there is no other conlcusion to draw than this travesty certain state legislators want to desecrate our God-inspired constitution with will lead to anything other than a new federal tax to meet spending targets the government wants to achieve.
Frankly, any state legislator who believes otherwise is an idiot.  (Yes, I just called you that.  Embrace it.)  A real Republican would be withholding remittance of tax receipts to the federal government, not empowering the federal government to levy yet another tax from Arizonans.
The fact that Republicans are behind this one is disgusting and only proves that RINO hunting should be an active and ongoing endeavor by any real American patriot.
Our God-inspired constitution is just fine, thank you.    Leave it alone.
Teaparty, y’all!


  1. I remember something like this in 2005/2006. The RNC was floating a trial baloon with talking points stating that nationalized healthcare would make US businesses more competitive internationally since all other countries have it, but US businesses have the extra labor cost of paying for employee’s healthcare.

    There was such an uproar from conservatives, the RNC backed off. I was listening to Rush and he was the one railing against the idea.

    The next year, Romney passed Romneycare (the prototype for Obamacare) in Massachusetts.

    So, dont believe that these trial baloons from the theoretical right will not result in socialism. The threat is very real.

    • WHY would government spend money when all of us will risk our lives for strips of paper with portraits of dead presidents that has not promised payment for 47 years? Don’t think about it!

  2. CopperDome says

    @MadArizonan – There are multiple problems with the scenario you describe. You left out some critical information and an important step before your doomsday conspiracy could happen in the real world.

    First, the proposed 18-word debt limit amendment WOULD NOT give Congress ANY new taxing authority, it would simply require a majority of state legislatures to approve increases in the debt limit. Isn’t that a good, conservative idea? Or do you prefer the fiscal death-spiral that is the status quo? If a particular type of tax is unconstitutional now, it would remain so without a SEPARATE amendment to make it legal. Conflating the two issues exposes you as either a simpleton or a fraud.

    Secondly, Republican legislators in AZ made ACTUAL SPENDING CUTS in 2009, 2010 & 2011 to balance the budget, and have been VILIFIED by the left for doing so. For you to call them spineless or idiots while conflating their budget approach with Congress’ proves you a fool or a liar.

    Finally, multiple AZ Republican legislators have actively sought ways to withhold taxes from the feds. Unfortunately, since the vast majority of federal tax dollars are paid directly to the feds by individuals and businesses, this is impossible to meaningfully accomplish without drastic changes to how all taxes are collected in AZ. The political will for such a sea change does not come together easily or quickly.

    The next time you want to make a conservative point, don’t use Alinsky tactics like conflating two completely different issues to attack people who have more real courage to act under fire than you could ever dream of having. Oh, and take off the tin foil hat.

    • MadArizonan says

      Sorry, but the state legislature doesn’t include the text of the amendment in its resolution. Even if it did, there’s no guarantee that the constitutional convention would be limited either to the amendment you are alluding to, nor to the wording of the amendment you are alluding to.

      Nor can the Arizona state legislature control what delegations from other states do.

      The “Alinsky-like tactics” are legislators like you who say you want a balanced budget amendment, when what you REALLY want is to increase the total tax take because you have no spine to actually cut spending or adhere to the constitution RIGHT NOW, TODAY because it’s an inconvenience in your relationship with lobbyists and what you want to do for them.

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