An Oklahoman’s Descent into National ID Hell



Arizona is not far behind Oklahoma.  the Arizona MVD is working on compliance with the 15th-18th REAL ID benchmarks, a far far cry from being out of the national ID program (sometimes called “REAL ID”, but it goes by many other names as well).   From a Christian patriot’s travails in Oklahoma.

I was shocked when the DMV clerk told me that I must submit to a finger scan.  Who doesn’t associate being fingerprinted with criminality?  I balked but was told no scan-no drivers license.  At the time I had a small child, my own business and countless tasks to accomplish every day that would be very difficult if not impossible to meet without a valid license so I grudgingly complied.  I had no idea that it wasn’t just my fingers that they were scanning.  The old cameras had been replaced with high resolution digital cameras that capture, map and digitize our facial features for use with facial recognition technology.


Drivers license photos compliant with International Civil Aviation Organization biometric data interchange formats?  CHECK

Drivers license require finger scans from applicants?  According to the American Association of Moter Vehicle Administrators, it is under consideration.

 I always knew that if it came down to it, I was not going to just roll over and comply.  I have a child and to just give up and leave her with the legacy of government control by cataloging and monitoring people through an international biometric ID is not an option for me.

Once the fight is finally over and the biometric identification plans are fully implemented those who refuse to be enrolled and will not carry a “government issued photo ID”, will essentially be viewed as invalid, non-persons, unregistered. 

Furthermore their invalidated status will be a red flag rendering such persons especially suspect by a government that demands its right to know all about everyone at all times.  Where did our government get such a right?  They got it from us.   Our complacence is compliance and as far as they are concerned that gives them permission and therefore the right to scan our body parts and use those measurements as a personal tracking number.

The ones that do comply won’t be much better off really.   Their government issued biometric ID will allow our government to keep tabs on their every transaction, their travel, their habits and more. This biometric identification system puts our ability to access our daily necessities at their pleasure.  Will such an all powerful government choose to be a benevolent father?  History does not give one much hope that it will.

From Revelations 13:

 7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

 8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

 9If any man have an ear, let him hear…….

 15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

 16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark,

Seems pretty clear from Revelation, that if you bear the mark, regardless of your self-perception of whether you are a saint or not, you serve the Beast of revelation.  The sure sign is (see P 16 above) that if you do NOT have the mark, you cannot engage in commerce.  If you do, you can.

It’s all right there in black and white.  I am so grateful to my Christian sister in Oklahoma who is showing good patriots and Christians the way to resist the beast.


  1. My name is Mark Lerner. I am the co-founder of the Stop Real ID Coalition and the Constitional Alliance. I want to thank the good people of Arizona for their help in defeating implementation of the Real ID Act 2005. Kaye Beach of Oklahoma is a mother, wife, Christian and patriot. Kaye is taking her battle into the courts. Kaye,s fighting against forced biometric enrollment, RFID and global information sharing. Kaye is standing up to our government’s insistance of knowing the who, what, how, when and where of every citizen’s life. Kaye’s fight which is every citizens fight will start in traffic court. She is prepared to take her fight to the highest court in order to protect her/our Constitutional rights. Real ID is about much more than a state driver’s license; it is about a federal centralized database which is linked with other databases globally. Please support Kayes, effort. Visit to learn about the ways we can help Kaye and thus protect the rights of all citizens. Again, thank you to the good people of Arizona. God Bless America

  2. Phillip the Great says

    Her response is pretty idiotic. All that information is already in private hands, and with a simple warrant will get into government hands.

    On the other hand, how are you going to manage all that data? I am convinced the government is far too incompetent to even know what to do with it.

    Constitutionally speaking, people don’t have the right to privacy most people think they have. Protection from unjust search and seizure, yes, but you can’t keep your actual identity a secret.

    So don’t borrow money, see a doctor, drive, live in a city, have friends or join any clubs. Don’t use a credit card, get an education, fishing license, or hire a maid. Don’t earn any money. And do not under any circumstances call attention to yourself.

    • Oberserve says

      a) the government is spending tens of billions of taxpayer dollars on it, so they’re heavily betting on a contrary position you are.

      b) “Constitutionally speaking, people don’t have the right to privacy most people think they have. ”
      Have you heard of ENUMERATED RIGHTS? If you believe in the constitution then you know that if it’s not in the WORDS of the constitution, the federal government can’t do it. Period end of story.
      You are asserting the contrary, that if there’s no RESTRICTION in the constitution, then the fed gov *can*. Thats wrong. It contradicts the clear intent and WORDS of the founding fathers. And it means you do NOT support the constitution.

      c) show where in the constitution it states that the federal government has the power to collect this data on its citzens AND/OR spend billions even to try to do it. It’s not in there! Hence, it’s NOT constitutional, plain and simple.

      • Oberserve says

        Sorry, edits to above… ENUMERATED RIGHTS – I meant ENUMERATED *POWERS*.

        Second, add to c) that c) is true WHETHER OR NOT the data is in private hands.

        and I’ll add a point

        d) if the data is secured by warrant, that’s a different story. However, the federal government is securing this data WITHOUT warrant.

    • Oberserve says

      By the way, Philip the Diminuitive, I think you prove the author’s point when you write….

      “So don’t borrow money, see a doctor, drive, live in a city, have friends or join any clubs. Don’t use a credit card, get an education, fishing license, or hire a maid. Don’t earn any money. And do not under any circumstances call attention to yourself.”

      that you support the beast and oppose the warnings of Revelations. Thanks for your clarification.

      • Phillip the Great says

        Ober, I appreciate your thanks. But I see you write with a bit of irony; might you afford me the same privilege?

    • BeNoSlave says

      Hey Philip the MorOn,
      The government is NOT running this show, a company that has ties to China and is partly owned by the French government called SAFRAN ( is the primary provider for all these ID services at both the state and federal level. There are no guarantees in that any info will be “private” and used in only “legal” ways!

      Why doesn’t this bother you more? Are you like the meat on hooves with bar coded tags in their ears? Well, I am NOT, and will join Kaye in her fight for privacy. (Sadly, some of our constitutional rights only apply at the federal level and not at the state.)

      PLEASE support Kaye by sending a few $$ for her legal defense:
      Kaye Beach, P.O. Box 722381, Norman, Oklahoma, 73070
      (please write legal defense fund in the memo section of your check or money order).

      If we do not stand up now against the fear-induced collapse of our original America, then your children will not have any options or choices left — we will have given them all back by our silence!!


  3. I’m not conservative, but this stuff is frightening and completely unconstitutional. While Chuck Gray is grasping at straws to show how the government is invading our privacy, not a single prominent politician in Arizona or Washington, D.C., has stepped up to challenge this insanity. Why can’t they concentrate on the real issues?

  4. A Thief in the Night says

    Hey Conservative Christians! With friends like this in Congress, who needs enemies?

    Congressional Record
    109th Congress (2005-2006)

    [Page: H3012]

    Mr. LEWIS of California. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Hayworth).

    (Mr. HAYWORTH asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)

    Mr. HAYWORTH. Mr. Speaker, I thank the chairman for this time. I rise in strong support of this conference report as the people’s House at long last takes care of some unfinished business. In the closing days of the 108th Congress, some in the other body objected to commonsense provisions that deal with our national security and our border security, to wit, the notion that when you apply for a driver’s license or another legal document, you should be who you say you are, and you should enjoy legal status in this country.

    This supplemental conference report includes the REAL ID Act, and at long last the Congress of the United States gets real and understands that border security and national security are one and the same. Pass this to help protect our borders and help protect our national security.

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