‘Won’t Back Down’—A Must-See Movie

By Jonathan Butcher, Goldwater Institute

Mark your calendar for Friday, September 28, when the feature film Won’t Back Down hits theaters. Based on real events in California, the movie depicts a group of parents’ efforts to reform a failing school.   Hollywood stars Maggie Gyllenhaal (The Dark Knight, Away We Go) and Viola Davis (The Help) play two devoted mothers who gather signatures for a petition to take over their children’s school, one that has underserved students for years.

California is one of four states with a “parent trigger” or “parent empowerment” law that allows parents to petition to convert a traditional school into a charter school or replace school leadership. Under these laws, at least half of the parents in a failing school must support the transition. California, Texas, and Mississippi passed laws in 2010 and 2011, while Gov. Bobby Jindal signed Louisiana’s law earlier this year.

The Arizona State Senate passed a “parent empowerment” bill last March, though the measure eventually stalled in the House. Lawmakers in at least 20 other states are considering the reform idea.

Two weeks ago, Businessweek explained how the parent empowerment law has given parents in Adelanto, California new hope. Doreen Diaz joined with other Desert Trails Elementary parents in 2010 and petitioned to turn their school into a charter school. With the help of Parent Revolution, a non-profit based in Los Angeles, Doreen gathered signatures and began a grueling battle with school and district leaders.

While the fate of Desert Trails remains unresolved, Doreen insists drastic action is needed to help its students. “I hope that more people see [Won’t Back Down] and are inspired to stand up and fight,” Doreen says. She can point to McKinley Elementary, where parent engagement spurred the creation of a charter school nearby—a school that outperformed McKinley in the first year it was open—or the dozen states considering parent empowerment laws.

I hope Won’t Back Down inspires lawmakers to give parents the freedom to turn failing schools into success stories.

Jonathan Butcher is the education director for the Goldwater Institute.

Learn more:

Goldwater Institute: Momentum Building for Parent Empowerment

Bloomberg Businessweek: In California, Public School Parents Stage a Coup

Parent Revolution: STAR Test Results Show Celerity Outperforming McKinley in All Subject Areas

IMDB: Won’t Back Down


Comments

  1. Conservative American says

    “California is one of four states with a “parent trigger” or “parent empowerment” law that allows parents to petition to convert a traditional school into a charter school or replace school leadership.”

    “Two weeks ago, Businessweek explained how the parent empowerment law has given parents in Adelanto, California new hope.”

    “With the help of Parent Revolution, a non-profit based in Los Angeles…”

    California is also soft on illegal immigration and illegal aliens. But the Goldwater Institute likes that. It must because it’s former Executive Director, JEFF FLAKE, supports the DREAM Act. You know, the DREAM Act that Democrats failed to get through Congress after more than 20 attempts. The same DREAM Act with which B. Hussein Obama just did an end run around Congress by implementing it through executive order.

    Ah yes, let’s empower all of those illegal alien parents of illegal alien children, who we are forced to educate in our public schools, to take over the school system! Viva la revolucion! Viva las Reconquistas!Welcome to the Goldwater Institute’s United States of Mexico!

  2. Conservative American says

    Of course, the Goldwater Institute wants Arizona to follow California’s example because California has it’s act together. Right?

    “Another California city scrambling to avoid bankruptcy”

    “Published September 27, 2012
    The Wall Street Journal”

    “Atwater, a city of roughly 28,000 in California’s Central Valley, may declare a fiscal emergency as soon as next week, but it is trying to avoid becoming the fourth California city to file for municipal bankruptcy this year, its mayor said.”

    “Under California law, a local government must either declare a “fiscal emergency” or go through a 60-to-90 day confidential negotiation process with its creditors before it files for municipal bankruptcy. Since late June, three Golden State cities-Stockton, San Bernardino and Mammoth Lakes-have filed for bankruptcy protection.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/27/another-california-city-scrambling-to-avoid-bankruptcy/?test=latestnews

    So we can follow in the footsteps of California, as the Goldwater Institute is urging us to do, and have out shcools taken over by illegal aliens while at the same time forcing our cities into municipal bankruptcy! Brilliant! Who came up with that one, B. Hussein Obama?

    • Reality Check says

      So because California is wrong on may things we can’t follow them on something they are right about? Even when Texas, Mississippi, and Louisiana are right about it too?

      And exactly what school that has been chartered under this law has caused either a bankruptcy or resulted in illegal aliens “taking over” the school? California is in bankruptcy and is soft on illegals but neither is the result of this law.

      This is another example of your inability to think clearly and make rational decisions. You are so obsessed with your narrow vision of reality that you are even abandoning conservative school choice ideas. You really might as well be a liberal Democrat.

      • Conservative American says

        ROFL! I’m beginning to think that you simply like to argue with me, Reality Check, without actually holding any view or position passionately. Why would I think that?

        Well, I have asked you countless times in multiple threads if you support Jeff Flake’s STRIVE Act. Finally, you said that there are parts of it you like and parts of it you don’t like. But that isn’t an option with a piece of federal legislation. Either the entire bill becomes law or it does not. So voters are put in the position of either supporting or not supporting a piece of legislation, as written, in it’s entirety. You want to create a nonexistent third choice which has reality only in your imagination.

        So let us once again get down to brass tacks and reality, Reality Check. Do you or do you not support the California legislation referred to in the above article. Yes or no?

        Don’t beat around the bush. Don’t avoid. Simpy answer the question. Yes or no?

        • Reality Check says

          I like to expose your idiocy.

          And it isn’t the case that “either the entire bill becomes law or it does not”. It’s a bill. Bills can be amended. A bill that is rejected can also be the starting point for one in a later session that is passed when the parts that the majority objects to are removed or changed. Yet more evidence of your 100% or 0% mentality. It’s play by your rules or your taking your ball and running home to mommy yet again.

          I looked at the bill and I support the Parent Empowerment section. It looks like a good idea. Do you have any real world evidence of how it has failed since it has passed?

          • Conservative American says

            Your lack of knowledge of the American legislative process is astounding, Reality Check! What country are you from?

            Ultimately, no matter how it may be amended, a piece of legislation is either passed or it is not passed. It’s really as simple as that! It may not be that way in your country but that’s how it is here in America!

            Reality Check wrote: “I looked at the bill and I support the Parent Empowerment section.”

            LOL! There you go again, Mr. Reality check! I didn’t ask what sections you support or don’t support, I asked if you support the bill. Yes or no?

            So you support the section which does NOT mandate that parents seeking to take over a school MUST be citizens of The United States who are eligible to vote. So you support the possibility of illegal alien parents exercising a takeover of an American public school. I understand!

            Reality Check wrote: “Do you have any real world evidence of how it has failed since it has passed?”

            Funny you should ask, Reality Check! 🙂

            The FIRST way it has failed is in the attempts to implement it under California law! The whole thing has become a huge court battle costing taxpayers money while there is not yet any benefit to students! Let’s look at the school cited in the above article in Adelanto, California!

            “Campaign for Adelanto charter school falls short
            School officials in the High Desert community of Adelanto say there weren’t enough signatures under the parent trigger law to mandate a charter conversion.
            February 22, 2012|By Teresa Watanabe, Los Angeles Times”

            “In a stunning development, school officials in the High Desert community of Adelanto announced late Tuesday that parents aiming to transform their low-performing school into a charter campus had failed to collect enough signatures under the state’s landmark parent trigger law.”

            “Shortly after the announcement, the school board voted 5 to 0 to accept Supt. Darin Brawley’s recommendation to reject the petition. Brawley reported that the district could verify only 235 signatures of 466 submitted; among the signatures thrown out were 97 from parents who revoked them, saying they were misled or had signed in error.”

            http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/22/local/la-me-0222-parent-trigger-20120222

            “As school starts, new questions in Adelanto charter fight
            Adelanto school board approves an overhaul of failing school but rejects a charter, opening a new legal chapter in the ongoing controversy.
            August 20, 2012|By Teresa Watanabe, Los Angeles Times”

            “The Adelanto school board’s rejection of a closely watched parent bid to convert a failing elementary school in the Mojave Desert into a charter campus raised new legal questions Sunday over the pioneering but still untested parent trigger law.”

            “Board members of the Adelanto Elementary School District late Friday voted 3 to 1 to accept the parents’ petition for an overhaul at low-performing Desert Trails Elementary School. But they rejected the parents’ preferred choice for change — a charter campus — after concluding there was insufficient time to start one for the new school year that begins Monday.”

            http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/20/local/la-me-parent-trigger-20120820

            “Mojave Desert parents go back to court over charter school issue
            August 28, 2012 | 10:46 pm”

            “Board President Carlos Mendoza, however, asserted that the signatures gathered and submitted in January no longer represent at least half of the Desert Trails students, as the law requires for a successful petition. He said many students graduated in June and others have since moved away.”

            “He challenged petition supporters to put the question to a vote by secret ballot to ascertain the will of current Desert Trails families.”

            “There’s been enough litigation,” Mendoza said. “Let’s put it up for a vote and settle it without spending our students’ money.”

            “Diaz rejected the suggestion, however, saying parents have already voiced their will through the petition.”

            http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/08/mojave-desert-parents-go-to-court-over-charter-school.html

            The last article is of particular interest. Why? Because Diaz rejects the idea of a vote. Why? Well, only citizens of The United States who are eligible to vote and registered to vote could vote in an election. The parent trigger law doesn’t mandate that those petitioning to take over a school MUST be citizens of The United States who are eligible to vote!

            Have a nice day, Liberal Check! 🙂

  3. Conservative American says

    Reality Check wrote: “You really might as well be a liberal Democrat.”

    Alright, Reality Check, if you want to engage in personal attacks and accusations, instead of dealing with issues and facts, we can do that, although I prefer to stick to issues and facts. Let’s find out which one of us is the “liberal Democrat”, shall we?

    Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa supports the California “parent trigger law” mentioned above. He is a Democrat. Not only is he a Democrat but he was the Chairman of the Democratic National Convention which just chose B. Hussein Obama as the Democratic Party’s 2012 presidential candidate. You may have seen Villaraigosa on televsion when he presided over three voice votes seeking to put the word “God” back into the Democrat platform and to affirm that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. Yeah, THAT Antonio Villagraigosa!

    Next, you support Jeff Flake who attempted to get the DREAM Act passed into law as part of his STRIVE Act. This is the same DREAM Act, verbatim, which congressional Democrats have tried over 20 times to get passed into law. It is the same DREAM Act the provisions of which were just implemented by an executive order from B. Hussein Obama by way of doing an end run around congressional Republicans.

    Which of us is a “liberal Democrat”? YOU are, LOL! You support the postion of the Chairman of the Democratic National Convention, Antonio Villaraigosa, on California’s “parent trigger law” AND you support Jeff Flake who sought to pass the DREAM Act which Obama was so adamant about seeing go into effect that he implemented it by illegal “Imperial Decree”! THAT is the “liberal Democrat” which YOU are!

    Have a nice day, Liberal Check! 🙂

    • Reality Check says

      School choice and charter schools are conservative ideas to begin with. If a Democrat supports increasing school choice and charter schools via this “parent empowerment” provision, it doesn’t suddenly make the idea a bad idea or a “liberal” one. It also certainly doesn’t mean that Arizona can’t improve upon the idea of “parent empowerment” and make it even better than how it has been implemented in California. Were all the similar laws in Texas, Mississippi, and Louisiana “liberal” also?

      You might as well be a Liberal Democrat because your narrow attempt to get 100% of what you want would result in us electing Liberal Democrats out of spite.

      • Conservative American says

        ROFL!!!! YOU are the Liberal Democrat as I have conclusively proved above! 🙂

        It is YOU who backs the ideas of Democrat Los Angeles California Mayor Antonio Villaraigoas who was the Chariman of the Democratic National Convention!

        It is YOU who backs Jeff Flake who sought to legislate the Liberal Democrat DREAM Act into existence!

        You can run but you can’t hide, Liberal Democrat!

        Have a nice day, Liberal Democrat! 🙂

  4. Conservative American says

    Now, Reality Check, since you are a very smart person, quote to me, verbatim, the language in the above-mentioned Calfornia “parent trigger law” which mandates that those seeking to take over a public school MUST be citizens of The United States who are eligiible to vote.

    Here, I’ll even give you some help. The legislation is Senate Bill

  5. Conservative American says

    Ooops! As I was saying…

    The legislation is Senate Bill 54, or SBX54, from the 2009-2010 session of the California State legislature.

    Go for it, Reality Check! Quote for us the requirement from that legislation that those seeking to implement a takeover of a public school MUST be citizens of The United States who are eligible to vote!

    • Reality Check says

      So just add a provision saying that only parents who are citizens or permanent legal residents can be part of the decision. Not a big deal. And in any case, given our laws in Arizona, teaching crazy reconquista and la Raza stuff would be illegal anyway. It wouldn’t matter if it was a school board run school or a charter school. Plus, as I pointed out before, when or where have illegal aliens used this law or a law similar to it to “take over a school”.

      You are creating imaginary problems that don’t exist just because you don’t like the people who are adovocating the school reform.

      Yet again you can only look at an issue with blinders on.

      • Conservative American says

        ROFL!!! Give it up, Reality Check! You simply don’t have “the right stuff” for this kind of discussion!

        Reality Check wrote: “So just add a provision…”

        There you go again, Mr. Reality Check! We are NOT dealing with hypotheticals here. The above article specifically addresses California’s law and encourages us to watch a movie about a specific school in California! For someone with the handle “Reality Check” you don’t spend any of your time dealing with reality, LOL!

        You want to support “parts” and “sections” of laws. That ain’t real! A law is what it is and it ultimately passes or does not pass with very specific provisions!

        When you get your butt in a wringer over something which you support, you propose that we “just add a provision”! Hey, that’s great… in your dreams… but that is NOT reality, LOL!

        And as long as I am here, let me drive yet another nail into your lefitist Pinko political coffin!

        The above article states: ” With the help of Parent Revolution, a non-profit based in Los Angeles, Doreen gathered signatures and began a grueling battle with school and district leaders.”

        Well, ain’t that nice! Let’s have a look at some of the folks on the Board of Directors of Parent Revolution!

        “Parent Revolution Board of Directors”

        “Peter Shakow”

        “He was a staff member in the Office of Political Affairs at the White House during the Clinton Administration, and has worked on numerous political campaigns across the country.”

        “Rica Orszag”

        “Rica started her career in The White House Press Office, serving for four years as President Clinton’s Radio Director. In this capacity, she produced the President’s Saturday morning radio addresses and coordinated press for the President, Vice President, First Lady and world leaders.”

        “Rick Miller”

        “Rick has also served as a Deputy Superintendent for the California Department of Education, strategic communications advisor to the Chancellor of the CSU System, and Press Secretary for Secretary of Education Richard Riley in the Clinton Administration.”

        “Stacey Rubin”

        “Prior to the Emerson Collective, Stacey spent seven years working in the Clinton Administration. She directed President Clinton’s nominees through Senate confirmation in the White House Office of Legislative Affairs for four years…”

        http://parentrevolution.org/content/board-directors

        Well who would have thunk it! A bunch of DEMOCRATS! Clinton retreads trying to fool voters that they are CONSERVATIVE, LOL!

        Pack it up and hit the road, Pinko Check! Everything and everyone you support is part of the leftist, liberal, “progressive” Pinko agenda!

        Have a nice trip, Pinko Check! 🙂

  6. Conservative American says

    And now for our newest feature, Parent Revolution employee of the hour!

    “Ben Austin, Executive Director”

    “Ben has also worked on numerous Democratic presidential campaigns, served in the Clinton White House in a variety of roles, and was an early supporter of Barack Obama’s presidential campaign.”

    http://parentrevolution.org/our-staff#ben-austin

    Wow, is THAT Conservative, LOL! 😉

  7. Conservative American says

    Here is our next Parent Revolution employee of the hour!

    “Gabe Rose, Deputy Director”

    “His history of progressive activism includes founding a statewide student advocacy organization for same-sex marriage equality and serving as president of the Bruin Democrats organization during his time at UCLA, where he also served as student body president for the school’s 25,000 undergraduates his senior year. Before joining Parent Revolution, was he was selected for and completed the Coro Fellowship in Public Affairs program in Los Angeles, a national experiential leadership-training program, during which he worked with organizations ranging from a Democratic State Senate campaign to Local 416 of the Reinforcing Ironworkers Union.”

    ANOTHER progressive Democrat activist! And here I thought this “parent trigger” law and all of this school choice stuff was being promoted by Conservatives. Guess I was wrong! 😉

  8. Conservative American says

    Presenting another Parent Revolution employee of the hour!

    “David Phelps, National Communications Director”

    “He’s worked on four presidential campaigns – stretching from Teddy Kennedy’s 1980 race to John Edward’s campaign in 2008 where he raised over $8 million through email and online outreach. As Online Manager for the Democratic National Committee in the 2008 election cycle, he was responsible for all online fundraising and email outreach.”

    Oh, this guy did “online fundraising” for the Democratic National Committee and now he’s working with Parent Revolution to push charter schools! Looks like some really staunch “Conservatives” are behind Parent Revolution and this charter school stuff! 😉

  9. Conservative American says

    Now here’s a REAL gem! Wait until you read about the accomplishments of THIS Parent Revolution employee!

    “Ryan Donohue, Deputy National Advocacy Director”

    “Born in Stockton, CA, but raised in the heat of the Las Vegas, NV desert, Ryan Donohue has been involved in progressive politics his whole life. Ryan has worked for Dina Titus on her race for the Nevada Governorship in 2006, Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the Presidency in 2007 and 2008 and helped flip the Nevada Senate chamber for the first time in 19 years as the Statewide Field Director for the Nevada Senate Democrats.”

    Awesome! This guy actually helped to flip the Nevada Senate over to the DEMOCRATS for the first time in 19 years! Now he’s working for Parent Revolution promoting charter schools through California’s wonderful “parent trigger” law that the Goldwater Institute loves and wants to see put into place here in Arizona.

    Hey, a great big “Thank you!” to the Goldwater Institute for promoting an organization and legislation designed to put Liberal “progressive” Democrats in control of our schools!

  10. Conservative American says

    Oh, you’re REALLY gonna love THIS Parent Revolution employee!

    “Patrick DeTemple, Senior Strategist”

    “Patrick DeTemple is a lifelong organizer with decades of community, political and labor organizing experience across the country. He began his career as an Alinsky style community organizer and then organized farm workers under Cesar Chavez for the UFW in California and hospital workers with Local 1199 and the Service Employees (SEIU) on the east coast. He has worked for numerous Democratic political campaigns at all levels of government including almost two years with the Obama presidential campaign where he was one of the battleground state general election directors.”

    A real, genuine Alinsky style community organizer! Cesar Chavez, SEIU, Obama presidential campaign… This guy has experience! Clearly a true Conservative working hard to promote the “Conservative” idea of charter schools through the use of California’s “Conservative” parent trigger law. Hey, we had better hurry out and get one of those “parent trigger” laws here in Arizona like the Goldwater Institute says!

  11. Reality Check says

    Typical illogical ad hominem attacks. You can’t criticize the substance of law itself. So you criticize the backgrounds of some of the people who back the law in California. You also ignore who backs it in other states. You ignore how the Arizona bill may differ from the law in California. You ignore the conservative organizations backing the law both in California and elsewhere (Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana where it passed and dozens of others states where it is being proposed). You ignore completely who is opposing the law (the big teachers unions). All you say is that the law must be bad because some individual left wingers support it.

    The only thing you had to say against the actual practice of the law was that the big teachers unions and the education bureaucracy sucessfully dragged the process out in California, costing taxpayers money. So apparently you are on the side of big bureacracy and teachers unions too.

  12. Conservative American says

    ROFL!!! I can’t criticize the substance of the law itself? I DID criticize the substance of the law itself! Do you have a memory problem, Pinko Check?

    “Conservative American says:
    September 27, 2012 at 4:42 pm”

    “So you support the section which does NOT mandate that parents seeking to take over a school MUST be citizens of The United States who are eligible to vote. So you support the possibility of illegal alien parents exercising a takeover of an American public school. I understand!”

    Remember now, Cretin?

    Now I’ll tell you what YOU can’t do. You can’t give us a “yes” or “no” answer as to whether or not you support either Jeff Flake’s STRIVE Act OR California’s “parent trigger” law. What’s the matter, have a problem with English? What country did you say you are from?

    Pinko Check wrote: “All you say is that the law must be bad because some individual left wingers support it.”

    SOME INDIVIDUAL left wingers? Hey, Pinko Check, try this list:

    “Parent Revolution Board of Directors”

    “Peter Shakow”

    “He was a staff member in the Office of Political Affairs at the White House during the Clinton Administration, and has worked on numerous political campaigns across the country.”

    “Rica Orszag”

    “Rica started her career in The White House Press Office, serving for four years as President Clinton’s Radio Director. In this capacity, she produced the President’s Saturday morning radio addresses and coordinated press for the President, Vice President, First Lady and world leaders.”

    “Rick Miller”

    “Rick has also served as a Deputy Superintendent for the California Department of Education, strategic communications advisor to the Chancellor of the CSU System, and Press Secretary for Secretary of Education Richard Riley in the Clinton Administration.”

    “Stacey Rubin”

    “Prior to the Emerson Collective, Stacey spent seven years working in the Clinton Administration. She directed President Clinton’s nominees through Senate confirmation in the White House Office of Legislative Affairs for four years…”

    “Management, Communications, Advocacy, Campaign and Operations Team”

    “Ben Austin, Executive Director”

    “Ben has also worked on numerous Democratic presidential campaigns, served in the Clinton White House in a variety of roles, and was an early supporter of Barack Obama’s presidential campaign.”

    “Gabe Rose, Deputy Director”

    “His history of progressive activism includes founding a statewide student advocacy organization for same-sex marriage equality and serving as president of the Bruin Democrats organization during his time at UCLA, where he also served as student body president for the school’s 25,000 undergraduates his senior year. Before joining Parent Revolution, was he was selected for and completed the Coro Fellowship in Public Affairs program in Los Angeles, a national experiential leadership-training program, during which he worked with organizations ranging from a Democratic State Senate campaign to Local 416 of the Reinforcing Ironworkers Union.”

    “David Phelps, National Communications Director”

    “He’s worked on four presidential campaigns – stretching from Teddy Kennedy’s 1980 race to John Edward’s campaign in 2008 where he raised over $8 million through email and online outreach. As Online Manager for the Democratic National Committee in the 2008 election cycle, he was responsible for all online fundraising and email outreach.”

    “Ryan Donohue, Deputy National Advocacy Director”

    “Born in Stockton, CA, but raised in the heat of the Las Vegas, NV desert, Ryan Donohue has been involved in progressive politics his whole life. Ryan has worked for Dina Titus on her race for the Nevada Governorship in 2006, Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the Presidency in 2007 and 2008 and helped flip the Nevada Senate chamber for the first time in 19 years as the Statewide Field Director for the Nevada Senate Democrats.”

    “Patrick DeTemple, Senior Strategist”

    “Patrick DeTemple is a lifelong organizer with decades of community, political and labor organizing experience across the country. He began his career as an Alinsky style community organizer and then organized farm workers under Cesar Chavez for the UFW in California and hospital workers with Local 1199 and the Service Employees (SEIU) on the east coast. He has worked for numerous Democratic political campaigns at all levels of government including almost two years with the Obama presidential campaign where he was one of the battleground state general election directors.”

    These “progressive” Democrats don’t just “support” the law, they worked to bring it into existence and are working to see it implemented!

    Furthermore, let us not forget that the California “parent trigger” law is supported by Antonio Villaraigosa, the Democrat Mayor of Los Angeles and the man who was the Chairman of this year’s Democratic National Convention!

    This law and the charter school “choice” agenda is part and parcel of the “progressive” Democrat, left wing, liberal effort to take control of our public shcools and to feed our children their liberal-making propaganda!

    Now run along back home before your Visa expires!

    Have a nice day, Pinko Check! 🙂

  13. Reality Check says

    “This law and the charter school “choice” agenda is part and parcel of the “progressive” Democrat, left wing, liberal effort to take control of our public shcools and to feed our children their liberal-making propaganda!”

    Wow, you really are bonkers. If that is the case, why have conservatives been pushing for charter schools, school choice, vouchers, home schooling, and other alternatives to traditional public education for the past 20-30 years? The liberals, progressives, and the teachers unions already control our public schools. School choice, charter schools, vouchers, etc. have been the cornerstone of conservative attempts to provide alternatives to the failed public schools run by the teachers unions and government bureaucrats. If you think those ideas are liberal or progressive, you certainly aren’t a conservative. You are just plain nuts.

    And if some individual liberal democrat politicians are finally waking up to pressure from parents to do something about failing schools and are embracing what were originally conservative ideas, we should be happy that we are winning the battle of ideas rather than suddenly abandoning them.

    Moreover, Parent Revolution isn’t backing the version of the law in Arizona. They are opposing it mainly because it contains vouchers as an option. The law being proposed in Arizona is based upon an ALEC model law. ALEC is an organization that promotes CONSERVATIVE model legislation.

  14. Conservative American says

    ROFL!!! Reality Check, you are a genuine, certified, meathead, LOL! 🙂

    Let’s run through this one more time, just for you!

    1 – The article is addressing California’s “parent trigger” law.

    2 – The movie that the Goldwater institute is promoting is about a couple of women utilizing the California “parent trigger” law in California.

    3 – There is NO provsion in the California “parent trigger” law requiring that parents seeking to take over a public school through the petition process be citizens of The United States of America who are eligible to vote.

    4 – The California “parent trigger” law leaves the door wide open for illegal immigrant parents of school children to take over an American public school.

    5 – Parent Revolution, the group pushing the school takeovers in California, is run by the following left, wing, liberal, progressive Democrats:

    “Parent Revolution Board of Directors”

    “Peter Shakow”

    “He was a staff member in the Office of Political Affairs at the White House during the Clinton Administration, and has worked on numerous political campaigns across the country.”

    “Rica Orszag”

    “Rica started her career in The White House Press Office, serving for four years as President Clinton’s Radio Director. In this capacity, she produced the President’s Saturday morning radio addresses and coordinated press for the President, Vice President, First Lady and world leaders.”

    “Rick Miller”

    “Rick has also served as a Deputy Superintendent for the California Department of Education, strategic communications advisor to the Chancellor of the CSU System, and Press Secretary for Secretary of Education Richard Riley in the Clinton Administration.”

    “Stacey Rubin”

    “Prior to the Emerson Collective, Stacey spent seven years working in the Clinton Administration. She directed President Clinton’s nominees through Senate confirmation in the White House Office of Legislative Affairs for four years…”

    “Management, Communications, Advocacy, Campaign and Operations Team”

    “Ben Austin, Executive Director”

    “Ben has also worked on numerous Democratic presidential campaigns, served in the Clinton White House in a variety of roles, and was an early supporter of Barack Obama’s presidential campaign.”

    “Gabe Rose, Deputy Director”

    “His history of progressive activism includes founding a statewide student advocacy organization for same-sex marriage equality and serving as president of the Bruin Democrats organization during his time at UCLA, where he also served as student body president for the school’s 25,000 undergraduates his senior year. Before joining Parent Revolution, was he was selected for and completed the Coro Fellowship in Public Affairs program in Los Angeles, a national experiential leadership-training program, during which he worked with organizations ranging from a Democratic State Senate campaign to Local 416 of the Reinforcing Ironworkers Union.”

    “David Phelps, National Communications Director”

    “He’s worked on four presidential campaigns – stretching from Teddy Kennedy’s 1980 race to John Edward’s campaign in 2008 where he raised over $8 million through email and online outreach. As Online Manager for the Democratic National Committee in the 2008 election cycle, he was responsible for all online fundraising and email outreach.”

    “Ryan Donohue, Deputy National Advocacy Director”

    “Born in Stockton, CA, but raised in the heat of the Las Vegas, NV desert, Ryan Donohue has been involved in progressive politics his whole life. Ryan has worked for Dina Titus on her race for the Nevada Governorship in 2006, Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the Presidency in 2007 and 2008 and helped flip the Nevada Senate chamber for the first time in 19 years as the Statewide Field Director for the Nevada Senate Democrats.”

    “Patrick DeTemple, Senior Strategist”

    “Patrick DeTemple is a lifelong organizer with decades of community, political and labor organizing experience across the country. He began his career as an Alinsky style community organizer and then organized farm workers under Cesar Chavez for the UFW in California and hospital workers with Local 1199 and the Service Employees (SEIU) on the east coast. He has worked for numerous Democratic political campaigns at all levels of government including almost two years with the Obama presidential campaign where he was one of the battleground state general election directors.”

    Now, Reality Check, THAT is the reality of the situation. Nothing you say changes that one iota.

    Now let’s address your slovenly thinking habits and see how they lead to false conclusions.

    First, you want us to support Jeff Flake because of his endorsements. At the same time, you refuse to state whether you do or do not support Flake’s STRIVE Act.

    Here, you are telling us that supporting charter schools is Conservative AND you refuse to state whether or not you support California’s “parent trigger” law.

    Gee, there’s a pattern, LOL!

    Your pattern of slovenly thinking is that you fail to address what actually exists, you won’t give a straight answer to a straight question, you want to deal in hypotheticals and you want us to base our decisions upon who supports what!

    I, on the other hand, look at what is real, what actually exists. I look at Jeff Flake’s STRIVE Act, for example, rather than who endoreses him. I look at the California “parent trigger” law as it really is with the provisions that it does and that it does not have. I look at who is actually behind the organization Parent Revolution who is mentioned in the Goldwater Institute article as having helped Doreen.

    Now, what you are seeking to employ in your arguments are very old, very well known lefitist tactics developed by the Communists. Let’s list them.

    1 – NEVER TALK ABOUT THE REALITY ON THE GROUND. Why not? Well, all leftist arguments are lies which are immediately refuted by the actual reality on the ground.

    2 – ALWAYS DEBATE HYPOTHETICALS WHICH YOU HAVE CREATED. Why? Because hypotheticals take things away from the reality on the ground.

    Let’s have some FUN and create our own example demonstrating the application of these two tactics.

    Conservative: We’re on the Titanic. It’s sinking!

    Liberal: Don’t worry, we have lifeboats.

    Conservative: But there are only enough lifeboats to hold half of the people!

    Liberal: Don’t worry. When the first group of people in the lifeboats are rescued they’ll bring the lifeboats back and we can get in them.

    And half the people slowly sink beneath the waves and drown or die from hypothermia in the frigid North Atlantic.

    Never listen to the hypotheticals of leftists like Reality Check. Their purpose is to distract from the actual reality on the ground. Always look at what actually exists and base your conclusions upon that reality.

    • Reality Check says

      Regarding your “rundown”:

      1 – The article addresses the idea of “parent empowerment” laws in general. It uses the California law as an example but also mentions the bill in the Arizona Senate and the fact that Texas, Mississippi and Loiusiana have all passed “parent empowerment” laws. It also mentions a fictional movie on the subject. The article is not exclusively about the California law.

      2 – The movie that the Goldwater institute artcile mentions is FICTION. It is inspired by some of the events in California but it is not based on them. Additionally the movie is set in PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA not California and is about a fictional school in a fictional school district. The movie is about the IDEA of parent empowerment laws. It is not about the California law specifically or any other law for that matter.

      3 – There is nothing stopping the Arizona legislature from passing a requirement that the parents have to be legal residents of the United States. All they would need to do is put “legal” in front of the word “resident” in the bill.

      4 – See 3.

      5 – Parent Revolution receives a huge portion of its funding from the Walton Family Foundation. The people in California may be of the left but the overall national cause is not. Parent Revolution is also not backing the current Arizona bill. The Arizona bill was modeled after a version from ALEC.

      • Conservative American says

        ROFL! There you go agian, Mr. Reality Check, off into fantasy land, LOL!

        You have it backwards! The article “mentions” laws in other states and it is “about” a movie, LOL!

        “The movie, set in Pittsburgh, is based on actual events that stemmed from the parent-trigger law in California.”

        http://blog.heritage.org/2012/09/29/qa-wont-back-down-producer-brings-school-choice-to-big-screen/

        Reality Check wrote: “There is nothing stopping the Arizona legislature from passing a requirement that the parents have to be legal residents of the United States.”

        There is nothing stopping the Arizona legislature from designating landing areas for UFO’s either! It’s simply that that isn’t a reality!

        Reality Check wrote: “The people in California may be of the left but the overall national cause is not.”

        There you go again, Mr. Reality Check, off in “glittering generality” land, LOL! I have provided a plethora of evidence in this thread of Liberal, “progressive” Democrat backing for charter schools. You seem unable, in the face of the evidence, to drop your erroneous fixed idea that charter schools are a Conservative “cause”.

        “Obama Calls for Big Education Reforms – More Charter Schools, Longer School Year”

        “Part of the administration’s educational reforms also include plans to close the poorest performing 5 percent of schools in the nation, turning some of them into charter schools.”

        “There’s no silver bullets here,” the president said. However, he said, “There are some charters that have figured out how to do a very good job. What we’ve got to do is look at the success of these schools and find out how do we duplicate them… What I’m interested in … is fostering these laboriteies of excellence.”

        http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20017666-503544.html

        “Duncan Promotes Charter School Debate”

        “By MARY BRUCE
        July 3, 2009”

        “The schools specialize in math, science or the arts. Some are Afro-centric, others are religious. They are publicly funded but operate independently of local schools boards and, often, teacher unions.”

        They all make up the growing charter school movement that the Obama administration would like to see flourish.

        “The charter movement is absolutely one of the most profound changes in American education, bringing new options to underserved communities and introducing competition and innovation into the education system,” Education Secretary Arne Duncan told attendees at the National Alliance for Public Charter Schools’ annual conference last week.”

        http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7977326&page=1

        So Obama and his Education Secretary, Arne Duncan, are promoting charters schools! “Race to the Top” funding came into being on Obama’s watch. That is huge amounts of federal monies which are pushing the charter school agenda forward.

        So what you are telling us is that Obama and Arne Duncan are Conservatives because they support and promote chater schools? Is that it, Reality Check? Is that why Conservatives should vote for Obama?

        Have a nice day, Reality Check! 🙂

  15. Conservative American says

    Now, Reality Check, what is the Goldwater Institute article about? Well, we can get a clue from the title of the article:

    “‘Won’t Back Down’—A Must-See Movie”

    The article is about a movie. What is the movie about? The movie is about two women in California attempting to use Calfiornia’s “parent trigger” law to take over a shcool.

    In the article, what organization is helping Doreen in her efforts to take over the school? The organization is Parent Revolution.

    What is the purpose of this Goldwater Institute article? The purpose is to promote a “parent trigger” law in Arizona.

    Therefore, it behooves those of us in Arizona to look carfefully and critically at the shining example being put forth by the Goldwater Institute to see if it holds water. It doesn’t.

    First of all, as the article explicity states, “…the fate of Desert Trails remains unresolved…” So, the Goldwater Institute actually has no success story to present at all regarding the subject school, Desert Trails.

    The actual California law being employed has no provision requiring that petitioning parents be citizens of The United States who are eligible to vote. That allows the possibility for parents who are illegal aliens to take over an American public school. The law is very seriously flawed.

    The organization helping Doreen, Parent Revolution, is run by a cadre of “progressive” Democrats, most from the Clinton administration and some who have been involved with Obama. One is even characterized as an “Alinsky style community organizer” who organized service employess for the Service Employees Internation Union, SEIU, on the East coast.

    So when we get down to the bottom line, the Goldwater Institute has shown no positive outcome in their article, cited a very flawed California law and admits that a “progeressive” Democrat organization is promoting the attempted parent takeover.

    That’s not a success story. That is a story of failure across the board!

  16. Conservative American says

    Now, Reality Check, lets debunk one of the falsehoods which you are propagating. You wrote this:

    “The liberals, progressives, and the teachers unions already control our public schools. School choice, charter schools, vouchers, etc. have been the cornerstone of conservative attempts to provide alternatives to the failed public schools run by the teachers unions and government bureaucrats.”

    So what you are saying is that charter schools, for example, provide an alternative to schools run by the teachers’ unions. Really? Is that right?

    “Charter school teachers clear hurdle in pursuit of unionization”

    “by Geoff Decker, at 6:38 pm”

    “Disgruntled teachers at Opportunity Charter School won their bid to unionize last week after a state agency approved the United Federation of Teachers to represent them.”

    “A ruling by the Public Employment Relations Board dated Aug. 26 officially certified the union to serve as “exclusive negotiating agent” for Opportunity’s teachers, paving the way for the UFT to assume all collective bargaining rights on behalf of its employees.”

    “With the ruling, the UFT now represents 13 New York City charter schools.”

    “The decision means that UFT will now handle all negotiations as part of a collective bargaining agreement that will decide how employees are hired and fired, how much they are paid and how long they work. In exchange, Opportunity’s teachers would become dues-paying union members.”

    http://gothamschools.org/2011/08/31/charter-school-teachers-clear-hurdle-in-pursuit-of-unionization/

    “Arts Academy In The Woods Teachers Vote To Unionize Charter School”

    “After a six-month organizing drive, teachers at a suburban Detroit charter school voted to unionize on Wednesday, simultaneously certifying a new union local for charter school teachers in Michigan.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/15/arts-academy-in-the-woods-charter-school-union_n_1150009.html

    “Wakisha Charter School staff union OKs first union contract”

    “PHILADELPHIA – Alliance of Charter School Employees, Local 6056, representing the faculty and staff at Wakisha Charter School, and the Waskisha Charter School Board of Directors have ratified their first union contract.”

    http://pa.aft.org/index.cfm?action=article&articleID=8c5397ff-ae4c-4bf4-9623-25bd4c3a3073

    So your sales pitch that charter schools put an end to teachers’ unions in schools is flatly untrue. As we see in the above news stories, charter schools in New York, Illinois and Pennsylvania, for example, have teachers’ unions!

    The sales pitch that charter schools will get rid of teachers’ unions is simply another Liberal lie which seeks to fool Conservatives into supporting charter schools. Don’t let the Liberal leftists sucker you in!

    • Reality Check says

      Hardly any charter schools have unions. You are pointing to a small handfull in liberal northeastern non-right to work states. The teachers unions are the biggest impediment to school reform in the country. The fact that they are trying to blunt the effect of charter schools in Pennsylvania and New York by unionizing a small number of them (using card check laws in secret in one case) is not surprising. For you to suggest that charter schools are pro-union is laugable in the extreme.

      • Conservative American says

        Reality Check wrote: “Hardly any charter schools have unions.”

        ROFL! You’re going to have to rachet up the quality of your responses, RC! “Hardly any” tells readers nothing. Do you even know what percent of charter schools are unionized? I do! Do your homework! You’re dealing with Conservatives and Liberal “glittering generalities” aren’t going to cut it!

        Reallity Check wrote: “You are pointing to a small handfull in liberal northeastern non-right to work states.”

        Oh, I see. Those don’t count. Well, how about schools in Los Angeles, California. Do those count?

        “Steve Barr, the founder of one large charter network, Green Dot, said his group operates its 17 charter schools in Los Angeles and one in the Bronx with union staff because it makes sense in the heavily unionized environment of public education.”

        http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/27/education/27charter.html?_r=1

        17, count ’em, 17 unionized charter schools run by one outfit just in Los Angeles alone!

        Reality Check wrote: “For you to suggest that charter schools are pro-union is laugable in the extreme.”

        Really? Steve Barr, of Green Dot Charter Schools, was Chairman of the Board of Parent Revolution. Green Dot has 17 unionized charter schools in Los Angeles alone. How did that come about?

        Parent Revolution staff:

        “Patrick DeTemple, Senior Strategist”

        “Patrick DeTemple is a lifelong organizer with decades of community, political and labor organizing experience across the country. He began his career as an Alinsky style community organizer and then organized farm workers under Cesar Chavez for the UFW in California and hospital workers with Local 1199 and the Service Employees (SEIU) on the east coast.”

        “Gabe Rose, Deputy Director”

        “Before joining Parent Revolution, was he was selected for and completed the Coro Fellowship in Public Affairs program in Los Angeles, a national experiential leadership-training program, during which he worked with organizations ranging from a Democratic State Senate campaign to Local 416 of the Reinforcing Ironworkers Union.”

        How about that! Steve Barr is a charter school operator. Steve Barr was Chariman of the Board of Parent Revolution. Parent Revolution employs experienced union organizers. Ain’t that something!

        Now that I have dealt with all of your superflous tripe, let’s get back to the issue at hand. Charter schools do NOT eliminate teachers’ unions! I’ve given specific examples, including examples on the West Coast, in Los Angeles, California, of unionized charter schools.

        Hello, Reality Check! Reality is knocking, LOL! 🙂

  17. Conservative American says

    🙂 FOLLOW THE MONEY! 🙂

    There are countless profitable scams built around the charter school industry. I am going to show you just one of them. I have chosen the below example because it is one of the least obvious and least known scams and yet, at the same time, it is probably the most lucrative scam of all.

    “Albany charter cash cow: Big banks making a bundle on new construction as schools bear the cost”

    “Thursday, May 6, 2010, 8:48 PM”

    “Wealthy investors and major banks have been making windfall profits by using a little-known federal tax break to finance new charter-school construction.”

    “The program, the New Markets Tax Credit, is so lucrative that a lender who uses it can almost double his money in seven years.”

    “The credit can even be piggybacked on other tax breaks for historic preservation or job creation.”

    “No wonder JPMorgan Chase announced this week it was creating a new $325 million pool to invest in charter schools and take advantage of the New Markets Tax Credit.”

    “By combining the various credits with the interest from the loan itself, a lender can almost double his investment over the seven-year period.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/albany-charter-cash-big-banks-making-a-bundle-new-construction-schools-bear-cost-article-1.448008

    So, what’s wrong with that? The news story continues:

    “But many of those same schools are now straining to pay escalating rents, which are going toward the debt service that Brighter Choice incurred during construction.”

    “The Henry Johnson Charter School, for example, saw the rent for its 31,000-square-foot building skyrocket from $170,000 in 2008 to $560,000 last year.”

    “The Albany Community School’s rent jumped from $195,000 to $350,000.”

    “Green Tech High Charter School rents went from $443,000 to $487,000.”

    “Meanwhile, all the Albany charter schools haven’t achieved the enrollment levels their founders expected, even after recruiting hundreds of students from suburban school districts to fill their seats.”

    “The result has been less money in per-pupil state aid to pay operating costs, including those big rent bills.”

    “Several charters have fallen into additional debt to the Brighter Choice Foundation.”

    Well, why isn’t someone doing something about this? As the news story explains:

    “You’d think these financial problems would raise eyebrows among state regulators – or at least worry those charter school boards.”

    “But the powerful charter lobby has so far successfully battled to prevent independent government audits of how its schools spend their state aid.”

    “And key officers of Albany’s charter school boards are themselves board members, employees or former employees of the Brighter Choice Foundation or its affiliates.”

    Ain’t it sweet! A real slick insider charter school scam to make a bundle, LOL! This, of course, is just the sort of thing which Conservatives support and would like to see more of. NOT!

    🙂 FOLLOW THE MONEY! 🙂

  18. Conservative American says

    Here’s a link to an interesting “60 Minutes” segment which you can watch.

    “U.S. charter schools tied to powerful Turkish imam”

    “May 13, 2012 4:00 PM”

    “Over the past decade, followers of the mysterious Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen have opened scores of charter schools in the U.S., inspired by a man who is as powerful as he is reclusive. Lesley Stahl reports.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7408418n&tag=contentBody;storyMediaBox

  19. Conservative American says

    Charter schools run wild
    By A TIMES EDITORIAL
    Published April 1, 2007

    A decade after creating its first publicly funded charter school, Florida has turned a worthy educational experiment into a blank check for eager entrepreneurs. As a new report by the Orlando Sentinel suggests, the push for quantity has supplanted the pursuit of quality. And the students are the ones who suffer.

    Just ask Don Gaetz, a Republican freshman senator and former Okaloosa school superintendent, about the transformation. “Charter schools were a movement,” he told the Sentinel, “but now charter schools are an industry. They have lobbyists – they walk around in thousand-dollar suits, some of them.”

    Those lobbyists, and an embarrassingly compliant state Department of Education, have turned charter education into a $560-million-a-year enterprise that is so immune to oversight that an Escambia school convicted of fraudulently using its students to work on road crews is still receiving tax money. A Pensacola school where not a single student has passed the state’s standardized reading and math tests in four years is still receiving tax money. A Vero Beach school investigated twice for suspicion of cheating on standardized tests is still receiving tax money.

    Jim Warford, former K-12 chancellor at DOE, told the Sentinel his bosses actually discouraged oversight. “The only good answer I got was, ‘There is accountability because the parents are free to choose,’ ” he said. “It was intellectually indefensible that you could take a student out of a high-accountability district school and turn them loose into the Wild West of the free market that had no accountability.”

    Warford is right. The state’s hands-off approach is indefensible, and it is getting worse. In recent years, lawmakers have removed the cap on charter schools, eliminated many of the original education goals and undermined the supervisory role of local school boards. Last year, incredibly, lawmakers created an appointed commission that can approve charter schools in any county for virtually any reason.

    That new commission is loaded up with charter operators and advocates, and the new chairman of the state Board of Education, T. Willard Fair, is himself a charter school operator. Fair is also not the least bit shy about his own bias. The law says his board must consider granting school districts the right to continue overseeing charter schools, but he told a recent conference of charter school operators: “It’s going to be hard, very hard, to think about granting any authorization to any local school district. I don’t trust them.”

    How’s that for objectivity?

    Like so many of the other privatized approaches that Florida has pursued in recent years, charter schools have been treated not as a means but as an end unto themselves. The more, the better, period. In such an environment, it no longer matters that almost half the charter schools receive no grade from the state, that they are collectively serving fewer disabled and poor students, that some schools are being allowed to pick their students, that some schools spend more on administration than classrooms, that self-dealing has allowed some operators to profit from leases or loans connected to affiliated companies.

    All that seems to matter to DOE is that the numbers climb, and indeed they have. Statewide enrollment is now 98,000, second in the nation and the equivalent of Florida’s eighth-largest school district. Yet here is the most DOE can report about the educational achievement: “The learning gains witnessed among charter school students and traditional public school students provide no consistent pattern nor trend over time.”

    The sad reality is that no one really knows whether charter schools are, as a whole, serving students well. We certainly know that some of them, including Fair’s own Liberty City school, are achieving remarkable results with students who have otherwise struggled. We know that some were created by idealistic, resourceful community activists who have toiled to turn around the lives of students who got lost in larger public schools. But we also know that some schools have operated like a public piggy bank and that a Jacksonville operator boasted last year that she had turned away poor achievers so her school would get a better state grade. “You’ve got to play the game,” she said at a charter town-hall meeting, “or we are not going to survive.”

    The sad reality is that because Florida has put more ahead of better, no one can say with clear authority just how well the students in charter schools are being served. In a state that so assiduously measures how each education dollar is invested and how each public school student performs, that’s simply unacceptable.

    http://www.sptimes.com/2007/04/01/Opinion/Charter_schools_run_w.shtml

    • Reality Check says

      The #1 ranked charter school in the country and #6 ranked High School nationally is BASIS Tucson right here in Arizona. For every failing charter school, there are scores and scores of failing regular public schools. Cherry pick all you want.

      Can regulations and standards for charter schools be improved? Certainly. So can public schools. They should both be part of the mix and both be held accountable for high standards of academic and fiscal resposibility.

      Finally, it’s clear that your problem isn’t with “parent empowerment”. According to your statements, you don’t even like charter schools or school choice. That puts you way, way, way outside Conservative positions on education. You clearly are a quite literally a conservative American in name only.

      • Conservative American says

        ROFL! Consider the source! When a liberal, leftist, Pinko like you says that I’m not Conservative, that tells me that I’m right on the mark, LOL! 😉

  20. Reality Check says

    Frankly “conservative” (in name only) American, your arguments against this film and against charter schools sound a lot like the arguments that the far left is making against this film:

    “Hollywood Film Pushes Flawed Corporate Education Agenda
    “Won’t Back Down” pushes so-called “parent trigger” laws espoused by rightwing policy groups and privatization advocates”
    https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/09/19-5

    “School reform’s propaganda flick
    The guys behind “Won’t Back Down” stand to profit from education privatization. No wonder the movie hates on teachers unions”
    http://www.salon.com/2012/09/27/the_corporate_education_agenda_behind_wont_back_down/

    “Randi Weingarten: Right-wing agenda drives movie on education”
    http://host.madison.com/news/opinion/column/randi-weingarten-right-wing-agenda-drives-movie-on-education/article_01de3b04-f5df-11e1-984c-0019bb2963f4.html#ixzz281QBMLXR

    “Film “Won’t Back Down” Models Hollywood Propaganda in Age of School Reform”
    http://truth-out.org/news/item/11225-film-wont-back-down-models-hollywood-propaganda-in-age-of-school-reform

    If I wanted to, I could post dozens of these links. The left HATES this movie with a passion. If “parent empowerment” is such a left wing conspiracy, why does the vast majority of the left HATE IT WITH A PASSION?

  21. Conservative American says

    Reality Check wrote: “The #1 ranked charter school in the country and #6 ranked High School nationally is BASIS Tucson right here in Arizona.”

    Well, isn’t THAT interesting! What makes it so interesting?

    “BASIS Schools”

    “Board of directors”

    “Clint Bolick, prominent attorney”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BASIS_Charter_School

    And what is it which makes Clint Bolic so prominent?

    “Clint Bolick (born December 26, 1957 in Elizabeth, New Jersey),[1] is an American attorney and the director of the Goldwater Institute’s Scharf-Norton Center for Constitutional Litigation in Phoenix, Arizona.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Bolick

    NOOOOOOOO! It CAN’T be!

    So Johnathan Buthcer of the Goldwater Institute writes an article promoting the movie “Won’t Back Down” as a “must see” and posts it here at Sonoran Alliance in the name of the Goldwater Institute. The article is promoting school choice and charter schools. You tout BASIS charter shcools to readers. Clint Bolick of the Goldwater Institute is on the Board of Directors of a charter school. Which charter school? Why BASIS charter schools, of course!

    Oh, oh, oh! TOO rich! BUSTED CLEAN, LOL! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

    There is NO DISCLOSURE in the article that Clint Bolick of the Goldwater Institute serves on the Board of Directors of BASIS Schools while you are here telling us how wonderful BASIS charter schools are! Classic liberal, left wing, “progessive”, Pinko decpetion, Comrade Reality Check!

    Have a nice day, Comrade Reality Check! 🙂

    • Conservative American says

      So Clint Bolick represents BASIS in BASIS v. Horne… and now he is on the BASIS Board of Directors! How sweet it is, LOL!

      One hand washes the other! 😉

      • Reality Check says

        Still the #6 ranked High School in the USA according to US News & World Report.

        • Conservative American says

          And, of course, the expertise of US News & World Report is in education. Right, LOL!

          And Clint Bolick of the Goldwater Institute is still on the Board of Directors of BASIS chater schools. Were you going to mention that to us?

  22. Conservative American says

    Hey, Reality Check. You’re real big on “endorsements”. You were telling us how many “conservative” endorsements Jeff Flake has by way of trying to make a case that he is “conservative”. Well, here’s a nice endorsement of charter shcools for you!

    “Welcome to the Knights Party : Knights of the Ku Klux Klan”

    “America’s White Future Begins Here”

    “The kids in the article below seem to be happy. Parents have been given a choice as to where to send their children and without government interference, many have selected schools with a student population that reflects the race of those children. In addition, many of these schools satisfy the children’s longing to identify with their racial history by incorporating cultural studies relating to their ethnicity. There is nothing wrong with this, yet some think it is terrible. In fact, the majority of people prefer to be around others who are like them. Even those who enjoy international travel and experiencing other cultures still, for the most part, live the rest of their life among those of similar racial background. Why does this make some social engineers so angry? It is only natural. Each race should have the right to determine their own affairs without interference. This is why homogeneous nations are good for world peace. Everyone needs their own space. And parents who choose charter schools for their children based upon this fact are doing so instinctually and its healthy for their families.”

    http://kkk.bz/?p=2460

    Have a nice day, Reality Check! 🙂

  23. Conservative American says

    Yeah, according to a UCLA charter school study, there are a few racial problems with charter schools!

    “Choice Without Equity:
 Charter School Segregation and the Need for Civil Rights Standards”

    “The charter school movement has been a major political success, but it has been a civil rights failure. As the country continues moving steadily toward greater segregation and inequality of education for students of color in schools with lower achievement and graduation rates, the rapid growth of charter schools has been expanding a sector that is even more segregated than the public schools. The Civil Rights Project has been issuing annual reports on the spread of segregation in public schools and its impact on educational opportunity for 14 years. We know that choice programs can either offer quality educational options with racially and economically diverse schooling to children who otherwise have few opportunities, or choice programs can actually increase stratification and inequality depending on how they are designed. The charter effort, which has largely ignored the segregation issue, has been justified by claims about superior educational performance, which simply are not sustained by the research. Though there are some remarkable and diverse charter schools, most are neither. The lessons of what is needed to make choice work have usually been ignored in charter school policy. Magnet schools are the striking example of and offer a great deal of experience in how to create educationally successful and integrated choice options.”

    “Executive Summary”

    “Seven years after the Civil Rights Project first documented extensive patterns of charter school segregation, the charter sector continues to stratify students by race, class and possibly language. This study is released at a time of mounting federal pressure to expand charter schools, despite on-going and accumulating evidence of charter school segregation.”

    “Our analysis of the 40 states, the District of Columbia, and several dozen metropolitan areas with large enrollments of charter school students reveals that charter schools are more racially isolated than traditional public schools in virtually every state and large metropolitan area in the nation. While examples of truly diverse charter schools exist, our data show that these schools are not reflective of broader charter trends.”

    http://civilrightsproject.ucla.edu/research/k-12-education/integration-and-diversity/choice-without-equity-2009-report

    You can read the entire study in PDF format here:

    http://civilrightsproject.ucla.edu/research/k-12-education/integration-and-diversity/choice-without-equity-2009-report/frankenberg-choices-without-equity-2010.pdf

    Have a nice day, Reality Check! 🙂

  24. Conservative American says

    More on charter school racial and ethnic segregation:

    “Segregated Charter Schools Evoke Separate But Equal Era in U.S.”

    “By John Hechinger – Dec 21, 2011 10:01 PM MT”

    “At Dugsi Academy, a public school in St. Paul, Minnesota, girls wearing traditional Muslim headscarves and flowing ankle-length skirts study Arabic and Somali. The charter school educates “East African children in the Twin Cities,” its website says. Every student is black.”

    “At Twin Cities German Immersion School, another St. Paul charter, children gather under a map of “Deutschland,” study with interns from Germany, Austria and Switzerland and learn to dance the waltz. Ninety percent of its students are white.”

    “Six decades after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down “separate but equal” schools for blacks and whites, segregation is growing because of charter schools, privately run public schools that educate 1.8 million U.S. children. While charter-school leaders say programs targeting ethnic groups enrich education, they are isolating low-achievers and damaging diversity, said Myron Orfield, a lawyer and demographer.”

    “It feels like the Deep South in the days of Jim Crow segregation,” said Orfield, who directs the University of Minnesota Law School’s Institute on Race & Poverty. “When you see an all-white school and an all-black school in the same neighborhood in this day and age, it’s shocking.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-22/segregated-charter-schools-evoke-separate-but-equal-era-in-u-s-education.html

    Nice! Charter schools: helping to divide America along racial and ethnic lines!

    Have a nice day, Reality Check! 🙂

  25. Reality Check says

    If this law and charter schools generally are somehow left wing, why does the vast majority of the left hate this movie, hate parent empowerment laws, and hate charter schools?

    • Conservative American says

      ROFL! Your premise is wrong. There is an abundance of evidence in this thread showing the support of liberal, “progressive” Democrats and union organizers for charter schools. Better go back and read what has already been posted!

      Have a nice day, Reality Check! 🙂

    • Conservative American says

      “Obama Calls for Big Education Reforms – More Charter Schools, Longer School Year”

      “Part of the administration’s educational reforms also include plans to close the poorest performing 5 percent of schools in the nation, turning some of them into charter schools.”

      “There’s no silver bullets here,” the president said. However, he said, “There are some charters that have figured out how to do a very good job. What we’ve got to do is look at the success of these schools and find out how do we duplicate them… What I’m interested in … is fostering these laboriteies of excellence.”

      http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20017666-503544.html

      “Duncan Promotes Charter School Debate”

      “By MARY BRUCE
      July 3, 2009”

      “The schools specialize in math, science or the arts. Some are Afro-centric, others are religious. They are publicly funded but operate independently of local schools boards and, often, teacher unions.”

      “They all make up the growing charter school movement that the Obama administration would like to see flourish.”

      “The charter movement is absolutely one of the most profound changes in American education, bringing new options to underserved communities and introducing competition and innovation into the education system,” Education Secretary Arne Duncan told attendees at the National Alliance for Public Charter Schools’ annual conference last week.”

      http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7977326&page=1

      So B. Hussein Obama and Arne Duncan are promoting charter schools and you are trying to tell us that charter schools are a “conservative” cause. Riiiiiiight! LOL!

      Have a nice day, Reality Check! 🙂

  26. Reality Check says

    I am going to leave this thread with one more post quote:

    “The Republican Party is the party of fresh and innovative ideas in education. We support options for learning, including home schooling and local innovations like single-sex classes, full-day school hours, and year-round schools. School choice—whether through charter schools, open enrollment requests, college lab schools, virtual schools, career and technical education programs, vouchers, or tax credits—is important for all children, especially for families with children trapped in failing schools.”

    -Republican Platform 2012

    Conservatives and Republicans support school choice and charter schools and have for years.

    • Conservative American says

      I am going to leave this thread with one more post quote:

      “Obama Calls for Big Education Reforms – More Charter Schools, Longer School Year”

      “Part of the administration’s educational reforms also include plans to close the poorest performing 5 percent of schools in the nation, turning some of them into charter schools.”

      “There’s no silver bullets here,” the president said. However, he said, “There are some charters that have figured out how to do a very good job. What we’ve got to do is look at the success of these schools and find out how do we duplicate them… What I’m interested in … is fostering these laboriteies of excellence.”

      http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20017666-503544.html

      “Duncan Promotes Charter School Debate”

      “By MARY BRUCE
      July 3, 2009″

      “The schools specialize in math, science or the arts. Some are Afro-centric, others are religious. They are publicly funded but operate independently of local schools boards and, often, teacher unions.”

      “They all make up the growing charter school movement that the Obama administration would like to see flourish.”

      “The charter movement is absolutely one of the most profound changes in American education, bringing new options to underserved communities and introducing competition and innovation into the education system,” Education Secretary Arne Duncan told attendees at the National Alliance for Public Charter Schools’ annual conference last week.”

      http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7977326&page=1

      Liberals and Democrats support school choice and charter schools and have for years.

      Have a nice day, Liberal Check! 🙂

  27. Conservative American says

    2012 Democratic Party Platform

    “We will continue to strengthen all our schools and work to expand public school options for low-income youth, including magnet schools, charter schools, teacher-led schools, and career academies.”

    Liberals and Democrats support school choice and charter schools and have for years! 🙂

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