Who Won the Arizona Republican Presidential Candidate Debate?

Here’s your chance to vote for the winner of the Arizona Republican Presidential candidate debate and tell us why:


  1. I would think a more interesting poll question would be “Who lost the debate?” Or perhaps scoring the four via ranked choice voting (if such a method is allowed in your polling provider).

  2. True Conservative says

    Initially I thought Romney, but in retrospect, Santorum is the winner, for both the Arizona and the national voter.

    Santorum’s the more conservative candidate, and it showed. He kept his emotions in check and even his assault on the media was very well timed and is likely to have resonated well with the viewers.

    Romney did well, but he was largely playing status quo and defense, and against a surging Santorum, who did not hurt himself in any meaningful way, that was not enough. Also, Romney came off a bit like a jerk with his “you ask the question you want and I’ll given the answer I want” response when he was clearly not answering the question asked.

    Newt, who usually comes off as a brilliant academian must have been off his feed last night. His comments were largely non-specific and his referance to an ideal immigration policy where those who are supposed to come in don’t but those who are can was to be held up as a model begged for someone in the audience to shout-out “well duh!”

    My only complaint with Santorum is that I thought his attack on Romney for “taking credit” for balancing the budget in MA when that was “his job” was poorly played. During a time when government fails to do its job too frequently, finding someone who can make government work is an important credential.

    Nonetheless, the day goes to Rick.

    • True Conservative says

      Speaking of Homer Simpson quotes (well, duh):

      “those who are supposed ” should be “those who are NOT supposed to come in,” D’oh!

    • Rick is the more conservative?

      -voted for sotomayor
      -voted to fund planned parenthood
      -voted for no child left behind
      -voted for raising the debt ceiling with no offsetting cuts
      -was pro-CHOICE until he ran for congress

      It goes on and on.

      • True Conservative says

        With the exception of the vote for Sotomayor, those are all understandable votes given the way Washington works. Congressmen don’t get to line-item vote, the president doesn’t get a line-item veto.

        I don’t begrudge a man who matures, and I would never want to penalize someone who joins the pro-life movement, so his conversion to supporting life is in no way a negative.

        Here’s my question: if Santorum is not a conservative, then who is? By what standard is he judged such that any other candidate may also be judged and permitted to pass?

        I think he dances on the periphery of wingnut-land with a lot of his legislating morality talk, but that would make him too far-right, and you seem to consider him too far-left.


        • Huh? So you’re saying that you can be a conserative while being a liberal? Like McCain I guess?

          Sorry. You’re either a conservative OR a liberal. Santorum is a liberal. His past was liberal (“I was pro-choice before I ran for Congress.”), his votes were liberal, his political support (for Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey, resulting in Obamacare) was liberal.

          If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, guess what? Santorum is just another McCain RINO.

          • Conservative American says

            Sorry, but Ron Paul is the liberal and Rick Santorum is the Conservative. Once you have that figured out, all of your mental constipation will dissipate, Underserve.

            “We need to take out the CIA.” – Ron Paul

            Don’t take my word for it that Pinko Paul actually said that. See him and hear him say it for yourself by watching this video:


            So Underserve would have SA readers believe that someone who says, “We need to take out the CIA”, is a Conservative. Since when is someone who advocates eliminating an agency which our enemies would dearly love to see go away, a Conservative? That’s no “Conservative”, that’s a Pinko!

            Have a nice day, Underserve! 🙂

  3. If the above poll is any indication, drooling McCainites in Arizona are poised to hand Romney our delegates, because the Albino RINO said so. I will NOT vote for Romney because in Florida he told the Hispanic Leadership Council something he has not dared to say in the debates:

    “The 11 million people in the country in here illegally already should be given a temporary status and then have to return to their home countries to apply for citizenship.”

    What the hell kind of scam is this? “Temporary status” is just another word for amnesty; so illegal aliens will “self deport” if first you make them legal? Santorum’s response to Gingrich in a previous debate tells me he gets it on illegal immigration: ‘…if they (illegal aliens) have been here 25 years, they have been breaking the law for 25 years…and if they have been working, the odds are they have been using a stolen Social Security number which is yet another crime…’

    Johnny “buy my Bud Light-please” McCain and his beer baroness wife has not changed their stripes. Santorum will get my vote.

    • Well, saying Santorum is ANY KIND of conservative is laughable.

      That said you are absolutely correct about McCain and the McCainiacs working for Romney as part of their deal in 2008 when Romney threw to McCain.

      Speaking of McCainiacs, one funny item from last night. Wes Gullet and family sat in the last row of the front section. He looked pretty annoyed believing he deserved to be seated far closer to the front with whom he considers “dignitaries”.

      • Didn’t say Santorum is a conservative. I said he is not amnesty-happy (Gingrich), temporary status-happy (Romney), or fences keep Americans in-happy (Paul). At the moment, he is the only one who can be trusted to not keep the George W. Filth fake-enforcement fake-border security game going another four years.

  4. John Hokanson Jr. says

    On foreign policy: Ron Paul. He articulated the only sane and fiscally conservative foreign policy of the four.

  5. John Hokanson Jr. says

    I don’t know who’s the biggest conservative, but I think, clearly, Paul is the only one that holds paleoconservative views. The other three seemed to spend much of their time bludgeoning each other to death over who is the biggest neocon.

  6. Santorum said it himself he is a team player. He says government is like a team sport and sometimes you have to take one for the team. Well that kind of thinking is the whole problem….the team he should be talking about taking one for is THE PEOPLE team not the government team. Santorum will never get my vote. His voting record speaks loud and clear what team he is on, and it’s not all the people, it’s select people. If you are not a devote Christian, holier then all, then you don’t deserve any rights, and you definitely don’t have the right to your right of religion, it’s his religion or non. Yes I’m a Christian, but I disagree with a lot of what he is preaching. He would make a great Preacher. However we need a President to represent ALL people, not a preacher to tell us how to be live a Christian life the way he sees fit. God created all men equal, and further more he sent his only begotten son to die on the cross so that we could be forgiven of our sins. Man will sin, but Jesus died on the cross so those sins could be forgiven. Sorry but you will never see a day that all men will be perfect, and not commit sins~by the way lying, judging others, corruption…they are all sins….hmmmm…We need a president who will represent 100% of the people, not just the ones that fit the agenda, or the team. No to Santorum.

  7. No I wasn’t singling out homosexuality. I’m saying being homosexual is no greater sin then adultery, lying, stealing, (the list goes on) a sin is a sin. The Bible says you have committed a sin even if you look at another woman (man) and lust for them. So do we need to create laws against lusting? There are laws against those things that actually hurt, or damage someone or someones property true…..but how does being homosexual hurt anyone or anyone’s property any more or equal to other sins? I believe the real issues ahead of this country are jobs, the budget, foreign policies. Getting this country back on track should be more of an issue then whether or not same sex marriages should be legal. And just to set the record straight, it would not be my choice of a lifestyle, I don’t necessarily approve of it, but then I don’t “approve” of living together before marriage, or adultery either. But it is not my job to judge people for their actions. I don’t think any of that should be election issues especially at this point and time when the dollar is becoming worth less every day, the unemployment rate is crazy, and people are struggling just to get by.

  8. John Hokanson Jr. says

    Wasn’t Reagan a Democrat and ardent supporter of FDR? And isn’t that a more extreme shift than Santorum’s maturing positions on far narrower issues?

    Why would Reagan be held up as a saint, but Santorum villified?

    Far be it from me to defend Rick “Tenth Ammendment applies to everything except same sex marriage” Santorum, but fair is fair. If Reagan is allowed to mature, so should Santorum.

    • Reagan is and was many times intellectually Santorum’s superior.

      Did you not read any of Reagan’s lectures?

      Comparing Santorum to Reagan is like comparing a mental midget to a mental mountain.

      • Conservative American says

        Reagan had nowhere near the smarts of Santorum and nowhere near the education either. Reagan had a B. A.. Santorum completed his undergraduate degree at the Pennsylvania State University, earned an MBA from the University of Pittsburgh, and received his JD degree from the Dickinson School of Law.

      • Conservative American says

        Have you not looked at any of the performance statistics of Ronald Reagan as a “Conservative” president?

        The deficit as a percentage of Gross Domestic Product (GDP):

        Richard Nixon -5.4%

        Gerald Ford -0.9%

        Jimmy Carter -1.6%

        Ronald Reagan +18.5%

        George H.W. Bush +12.2%

        Bill Clinton -6.8%

        George W. Bush +11.9%


        While Ronald Reagan was Governor of California he signed a permissive law, legalizing abortions. Since that law went into effect more than 2,000,000 abortions have happened in the Golden State.

        President Reagan stated, “Abortion on demand now takes the lives of up to one and a half million unborn children a year. Human life legislation ending this tragedy will someday pass the Congress, and you and I must never rest until it does.”

        He never introduced a bill to ban abortion.


        On October 23, 1983, two truck bombs struck American and French military facilities, killing 241 American and 58 French soldiers.

        The liberal, wimpy French launched an retaliatory attack while the “tough guy” Ronald Reagan did nothing.

        Expansion of the federal government:

        During Reagan’s presidency the federal government added 61,000 employees. By comparison, during the “ultra-liberal” Clinton administration the government slashed almost 400,000 jobs.

        Supreme Court nominations:

        Reagan nominated Justice Kennedy who had a long history of supporting “a woman’s right to choose”.

        Reagan selected the moderate Sandra Day O’Connor. Anti-abortion groups were livid, fearing, rightfully as it turned out, that Mrs. O’Connor would not vote to overturn Roe v Wade.

        So don’t try to point to Ronald Reagan as the “Gold Standard” for being Conservative. You’ve bought into myth instead of looking at all of the facts.

        • But voting for Sonia Sotomayor and funding Planned Parent hood as Rick Santorum did, makes him a conservative?

          Supporting SPECTOR over Toomey resulting in Obamacare makes Santorum a conservative?

          Nice try at turning black into white.

          • Conservative American says

            No, Underserve. You make nice tries.

            Does THIS make Ron Paul “Conservative”?

            Ron Paul: Pro Child-Predator Candidate

            Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids.
            Voted NO to mandatory life sentences for two-time child sex offenders.
            Voted NO to making visual illustrations of child pornography a crime.
            Voted NO to making it a crime to take a trip to a foreign country to engage in illicit sexual conduct with a minor.

            Does THIS make Ron Paul “Conservative”?

            “There’s been a coup, have you heard? It’s the CIA coup. The CIA runs everything, they run the military. They’re the ones who are over there lobbing missiles and bombs on countries. And of course the CIA is every bit as secretive as the Federal Reserve. And yet think of the harm they have done since they were established [after] World War II. They are a government unto themselves. They’re in businesses, in drug businesses, they take out dictators. We need to take out the CIA” – Ron Paul

            Does THIS make Ron Paul “Conservative”?

            “Ron Paul On Gay Marriage”

            “Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul’s libertarian roots came out full force during an interview with ABC’s 20/20.”

            “John Stossel: Homosexuality. Should gays be allowed to marry?”

            “Ron Paul: Sure”

            Let’s hear you talk about how Ron Paul is not a Conservative, LOL!

            Have a nice day, Underserve! 🙂

  9. John Hokanson Jr. says

    I hardly dispute that Reagan was intelligent. Or even that Reagan was more intelligent than Santorum is. Reagan has the effect of making legions of conservatives look like mental midgets by comparison. That’s Reagan.

    What I (and apparently TC) dispute is the notion that politicians are never allowed to change their minds, form positions and opinions OVER TIME, and go on to do great things. Reagan is a prime example that you can.

    • Conservative American says

      Ronald Reagan didn’t even come close to being either as intelligent or as well educated as Rick Sanrotum. Reagan had a B. A. and Rick Santorum completed his undergraduate degree at the Pennsylvania State University, earned an MBA from the University of Pittsburgh, and received his JD degree from the Dickinson School of Law.

  10. AllUsBadGuys says

    AnnaR’s sentiment is perhaps some of the most uneducated writing I’ve seen on this blog. Represent 100% of the people? Such foolishness is what landed Obama in office. There is a right and a wrong. Now sometimes Rick has been wrong on certain issues, but he admits when he’s wrong and works to make it right. He takes a stand on the issues despite what people like AnnaR say. When was the last time you heard a presidential candidate openly admit he was wrong on something? That’s humility, something the President of the United States needs to espouse.

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