Values Voters 2008

Another excellent video by a social conservative organization called Value Voters USA.


Comments

  1. Fascinating. Apparently, minorities don’t exist in “Values Voters USA” (although the dude getting gay married did seem have a dark and Ira Hayes was part of the flag-raising on Iwo Jima).

  2. Queen of Hearts says

    Klute,
    I’ll bet any money you have red hair and don’t own your own home!

  3. Why? Are red-headed renters also not welcome in “Value Voters USA”?.

  4. FraudShadegg says

    Gay marriage is yet another issue where we hear nothing from “conservative” John Shadegg. He HATES talking about that issue. As well as abortion.

    wwww.gutlessjohnshadegg.blogspot.com

  5. Tucson Vice says

    Remember Klute, theirs is the party of inclusion!

  6. Queen of Hearts says

    It’s true, isn’t it?! You can sure dish it out!

  7. Here is my problem with the video –

    1. It says Judeo-Christian values. What about the ‘Judeo’ part?Jews don’t accept the ‘one man’.

    2. According to the Gospels as recorded in the Holy Bible, Jesus spent more time talking about money than he did about marriage, family, heaven and hell. Where is there any reference to money in the video. Show me your bankstatement/credit card statement and I will tell you what you really value.

    3. While I have no problem with tallking about the power of ‘one’ (I have a speech I have taken around town over the years called ‘The Power of One’, I do have a problem suggesting that God needs my one vote to defend himself. If my God needs my vote, I need a new God. The God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Jesus is quite capable of taking care of himself.

  8. Annie Hoyle says

    Ron, God doesn’t need your one vote to “defend himself”. You have that dangerously backwards! The point is that if every person would exercise their “one” vote for a common goal and do the right thing, it would be accomplished. Of course “The God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Jesus is quite capable of taking care of himself”. He isn’t the one being tested…. you are. Good luck finding that new God. The old God and I will be rooting for you from way up high!

    Oh, and Klute, I’ll accept you even if you are a red-headed renter! We conservatives (especially the social conservatives) are very loving, generous, forgiving and accepting people! We have to be, we get to read your opinions all of the time. Wink!

  9. Annie,

    First, don’t worry I will vote.

    Second, here is my frustration: many conservatives Christians behave and act like ‘it is the end of the world’ if their candidates don’t win. In fact, it is worse than this: they act like their God is incapable making ‘lemons out of lemonade’. Remember the first century church lived in a very hostile environment: not only did it survive, it thrived. The modern day parallel is the church in China. My faith isn’t in the present president or any future president. My faith is in God!

  10. Annie Hoyle says

    I think the video is very nice and moving. I really love the fact that there are conservative Christians out there devoted to their faith and to God and that they are trying to spread His Word. None of it frustrates me. I love it! Maybe your faith is in God, Ron but you seem more than a little self-centered. There are many people who may have needed to see that video. Glad that you totally get it but many people may not be as enlightened as you are. Of course we will survive any President. I think the point of the video is that we (Christians) may be a little consumed with things of this world that distract us from what we are really supposed to be doing and from who we really should be supporting in our leadership roles! Don’t worry, I will vote too!

  11. Annie,

    I work with people everyday who have lived their Christain faith in very difficult places (Liberia, Burundi, Iraq, Iran, China, etc). Where I worship over half of the congregation comes from places where their Christian faith has been and often still is persecuted. These fellow followers of Jesus have helped me understand what it means to follow the cross in the face of suffering and death. These Christians have shown me that my confidence must be in God and not in my government.

    I would encourage more American christans to rub shoulders with these believers who live among us. I believe we would gather a different perspective on how faith is lived in difficult circumstances – and in doing so, we would be less fearful of whatever the future might be.

  12. Annie,

    You suggested that I might be ‘self-centered’.

    I woke up this morning thinking about this.

    Is voting a form of ‘brother keeping’ (Genesis 4:9)? I think this is what you are alluding to. Good question.

    I will give it some thought and put the answer up on my blog:

    http://radicaldiscipleship.blogstream.com/

    (Be aware that it might be a few days before I get an answer up – as I have other things to do besides write blogs :))

  13. Where was our Christian moral outrage, when George Bush was talked into a war by Dick Cheney, and neglected to scrutinize the facts given him. Where is the moral outrage, when American’s were misled into supporting a war? Where is all our Christian moral outrage when our supposedly Christian leaders permitted unfettered greed to bankrupt families throughout America? Where is all our Christian moral outrage when lenders were permitted to lend money at rates that were morally wrong?

    God clearly has much to say about greed, and war. Unfortunately, Christians let our GOP leaders off the hook.

    Now as we try to promote same sex marriage, and pro-life policies, our credibility is compromised.

    If Christians expected more from GOP candidates once they are elected, and we were more compassionate in our conservatism, then we would have been able to keep enough of America in line with our values.

    Instead we are viewed as hypocrites, and our values are being rejected.

    If this election causes us to be more scrutinizing in our political support, and cause us to lead more to Jesus, then it is a good thing.

    God is in control of this election, and he is able to speak to the heart of Senator Obama if he is elected. And that should be our prayer if he is elected.

  14. (oops this is to correct the previous post, I hit post too soon.)

    Where was our Christian moral outrage, when George Bush was talked into a war by Dick Cheney, and neglected to scrutinize the facts given him? {The GOP spin masters say that George Bush was given bad information from the CIA. Read the book What Happened, and you’ll see something different.}

    Where is the moral outrage, when American’s were misled into supporting a war?

    Where is all our Christian moral outrage when our supposedly Christian leaders permitted unfettered greed to bankrupt families throughout America?

    Where is all our Christian moral outrage when lenders were permitted to lend money at rates that were morally wrong?

    God clearly has much to say about greed, and war. Unfortunately, Christians let our GOP leaders off the hook.

    Now as we try to oppose (not promote) same sex marriage, and support pro-life policies, our credibility is compromised.

    If Christians would have expected more from GOP candidates once they were elected, and we were more compassionate in our conservatism, then we would have been able to keep enough of America supportive of our values.

    Instead we are viewed as hypocrites, and our values are being rejected this election cycle.

    If this election causes us to be more scrutinizing in our political support, and cause us to lead more to Jesus, then it is a good thing.

    God is in control of this election, and he is able to speak to the heart of Senator Obama or Senator McCain which ever one is elected. And that should be our prayer once the election is over.

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