Stands to Reason

hear-no-evil.jpg Common sense tells us that if we go into our bedroom, open our closet door, go inside the closet, close the door, and put our hands over our ears, everything will be much quieter than it was before. So it should come as no surprise that Sen. Jon Kyl and other proponents of the “Grand Compromise” on immigration have returned to Capitol Hill claiming that as far as they can tell, opposition to the bill has really died down. After all, look at how they have chosen to take the pulse of their constituents:

From the Christian Science Monitor: GREENVILLE, S.C., and PHOENIX – In South Carolina last week during the congressional break, Sen. Lindsey Graham generally avoided crowds. Likewise Sen. Jon Kyl, back home in Arizona, scheduled no public appearances, instead huddling with party officials in Phoenix.

Frankly, we’re not sure Kyl was even that engaged, as we haven’t found any party officials that he has met with. Do you suppose he huddled with the leadership of the Arizona Republican Party? They would certainly be the highest ranking party officials you could find in Phoenix. Perhaps he met with the leadership of the Maricopa County Republican Party? They’re here in Phoenix as well. Then again, maybe he bumped into a couple of Precinct Committeemen at the airport and his people are counting that?

Perhaps he should have taken advantage of the break and held a series of townhalls, so that he could hear directly from his constituents. He could have explained the bill and distributed literature playing up its strengths. Proponents and opponents could have had one of those, oh what do they call it? Oh yes, a debate on the merits of the bill. Now there is a novel idea! Of course, why debate when as John McCain says, you’re “always right“?


Comments

  1. Oro Valley Dad says

    “Senator Jon Kyl’s office” will speak at the LD 26 Republican meeting this Saturday. Does that count as getting out and meeting with constituents?

  2. If it is just a staffer who “listens” so LD26 gets to vent, but the input doesn’t matter to the staff or Senator, then no. If it is a genuine question and answer session and the input means something to them, then yes. It will be curious to see if the staffer says much more than “Well, I can’t speak for the Senator. I’m really hear just to listen.”

  3. Actually, Senator Kyl has held meetings with legislative leaders in the State of Arizona. Moreover, I would certainly consider Republican legislators to be higher ranking than the party officials.

  4. Keen Observer says

    What a treat to have the senator’s “office” speak at the district meeting. Will that be the walls or does the ceiling speak also? Is there a mantle or hearth? Do they each get equal time?
    Does the office speak in English or Spanish?

    The senator was in town over the holiday. I suspect a meeting could have been scheduled outside of the regularly calendared one and most PCs would have shown up.

    Office speaking? Bogus!

  5. AZVoter, which legislative leaders did Kyl meet with over the last week?

    Also, while you might consider legislators to be higher ranking than party officials, they are not “higher ranking party officials”. In fact, they really aren’t party officials at all, unless they are also PCs or State Committeemen. There is no higher ranking “party official” in the state than the State Chairman, followed by the National Committeeman and National Committeewoman. From there you can follow the “party official” organizational chart. Legislators aren’t on it.

    Lastly, politicians talking to other politicians is still not an acceptable substitute for facing the voters themselves.

  6. PartyGuy says

    From Dictionary.com, some of these might really be an accurate way to describe Kyl “huddling” with party officials!

    hud·dle
    –verb (used without object)
    1. to gather or crowd together in a close mass.
    2. to crouch, curl up, or draw oneself together.
    3. Football. to get together in a huddle.
    4. to confer or consult; meet to discuss, exchange ideas, or make a decision.
    –verb (used with object)
    5. to heap or crowd together closely.
    6. to draw (oneself) closely together, as in crouching; nestle (often fol. by up).
    7. Chiefly British. to do hastily and carelessly (often fol. by up, over, or together).
    8. to put on (clothes) with careless haste (often fol. by on).
    –noun
    9. a closely gathered group, mass, or heap; bunch.
    10. Football. a gathering of the offensive team in a close circle or line behind the line of scrimmage for instructions, signals, etc., from the team captain or quarterback, usually held before each offensive play.
    11. a conference, or consultation, esp. a private meeting to discuss serious matters: The labor representatives have been in a huddle for two hours.
    12. confusion or disorder.

  7. OVD,

    It is an interesting question. Lets see.

    This could require a long detailed response.

    NO!!

    That’s it. Everyone has had more meetings with people (usually low-level interns) from congressional offices who have no authority to answer and debate the relative merits of proposed laws by congressmen than they care to recall.

    It is not the same as Senator Kyl having a Town Hall Meeting at the Sundome, Grady Gammage, Tucson Convention Center, etc. or even holding such meetings at a school gym or auditorium.

    He did not even have the courtesy to respond to the letter from the Legislative Leadership and Members, County & Municipal elected officials, GOP County and Legislative District Leaders and holders of the most powerful office in the world – Precinct Committeemen.

    PS to AZVoter:

    Sen. Kyl did NOT meet with legislative leaders during the last ten days after the legislative language was written by Sen. Kennedy’s staff. He met with them right after the announcement, but before anyone had seen the text of this abmonination.

  8. OVD

    The short answer is NO!

    AZVoter

    Actually he met with them right after the announcement, but before the legislative language was finalized by Sen. Kennedy’s staff. He did not meet with them over the ten day recess.

  9. Now GOP PK, let’s give AZVoter the chance to answer. The post was very clear about the fact that we were talking about the recess and the fact that they Senators were claiming that the uproar was dying down. AZVoter couldn’t have read it any other way.

    If Senator Kyl was meeting with legislative leaders, let him tell us whom! I’m curious if, by “legislative leaders” he meant those in leadership positions (Speaker, Majority Leader, etc.) or just committee chairmen?

    Fill us in AZVoter!

  10. I wonder if he was meeting with any of the 26 lawmakers who signed a letter asking him to vote against the bill? That letter, also signed by hundreds of party activists was delivered today to his office. So I’m guessing that none of them were in the meetings that AZVoter was referencing.

    http://www.ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=503418

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