Shadegg “attacks” Kyl and McCain

Shadegg-Gray.jpg Hmm, let’s try this logic again. While we can’t be certain, it now appears that according to arguments made by Nathan Sproul, Gordon James and The New York Times, Arizona Republican Congressman John Shadegg is “personally attacking Jon Kyl and John McCain.” Of course, we still don’t believe that for a moment, but read what he had to say about yesterday’s defeat of Sen. Cornyn’s amendment to protect us from felons, gang members, terrorists and others:

Shadegg: Defeat of Cornyn Amendment Is “Stunning”

Charges “Closed Process Is Indefensible”

Washington, DC- Today, Congressman John Shadegg (R-AZ) released the following statement regarding the defeat of Senator John Cornyn’s amendment that would have barred felons, members of terrorist organizations, known gang members, sex predators, alien smugglers and felony drunk drivers from obtaining legal immigrant status:

“Immigration policy defines a nation. It is impossible to overstate the importance of getting that policy right. As we in Arizona have witnessed, failing to secure our borders can have dramatic effects. The defeat of the amendment offered by Senator John Cornyn to the Senate immigration bill is stunning. This amendment would have barred felons, members of terrorist organizations, known gang members, sex predators, alien smugglers and felony drunk drivers from obtaining a probationary Z-visa.

“The people of Arizona need to know the Senate is in the process of passing sweeping changes to our law that hold the potential of changing America forever. This legislation is being rushed through in a matter of days, without public hearings or markups. This closed process is indefensible, as the defeat of the Cornyn and other amendments this week illustrates. This is no way to set critical national immigration policy.”

Eyes notes that both Arizona Senators voted AGAINST Cornyn’s Amendment and in favor of giving Z-visas and legal status to umm, well, gee, we guess terrorists, felons, sex predators, gang members and the rest?

Alright, so we don’t really believe that is what they were doing, and they actually voted for a later amendment, written by Sen. Ted Kennedy, that resolved some, albeit not all, of these issues (we’re guessing he gave a pass to the drunk drivers!) But since Shadegg’s press release doesn’t make that point, shouldn’t we now expect the usual rapid responses from Sproul et al, as they savage Shadegg for his “shameful and divisive attacks.” We are quite sure that they’ll be calling for his resignation and firing up the autodialers, asking Kyl and McCain supporters to call the Congressman and tell him to “stop attacking Jon Kyl and John McCain.” They will next go on national television and decry his “mudslinging and dirty tactics,” as they tearfully beg him to “stop tearing the Republican Party in two.”

Or maybe not. Maybe folks were right and it was really all about taking a cheap shot at State GOP Chairman Randy Pullen. Oh well, as before, the next day or two should tell. Although, given the utter lack of conference calls that Arpaio’s criticism generated, our guess is that hypocrisy wins out again. Still, it is a point that bears repeating again and again until the perpetrators of those hypocritical acts are utterly and completely exposed.


Comments

  1. What part of the statement mentioned either Senator McCain or Kyl by name? What part called them traitors, liars, called for their resignation, recall, or stated the desire to “deport” either one? I read it twice and never saw the names at all. That is the difference. While Shadegg is attacking the legislation, and perhaps the Senate as a whole, he is not taking a personal swipe at anyone. No photos or illustrations needed.

    It continues to baffle me how it is only divisive when done by those who do not follow the lock step of Randy Pullen otherwise it is necessary.

    “… it is a point that bears repeating again and again until the perpetrators of those hypocritical acts are utterly and completely exposed.”

    Calls for unity only apply to the “other side”? Is it hypocritical to complain and take action against PC’s who appeared on Janet’s web site but OK for the same guy to carry a sign that says Deport McCain? Is it wrong for someone to support a different candidate for Party Chair but OK for the Maricopa GOP Chair to appear in a nationwide paper with a McCain bashing button?

    This is not about anyone being divisive or party unity; keeping such things going with such little supporting rational has become about trying to keep a galvanized front to maintain what appears to be a position of power by a select few. Give it a rest!

    I’m sure the usual suspects will respond and attack me, Gordon & Lisa James, Nathan Sproul, and whoever else is not in the kool-aid crowd. The claims of lies, distortions, etc will follow. When you have no facts to support your positions, resorting to personal attacks and calling the other person a liar are among the first rules of dirty play. I have said all I care to say and will not be responding. It is a ridiculous waste of time to keep such destructive and detrimental dialogue alive.

  2. Sorry Ann, but you’re claiming lies and distortion while beginning your email saying:

    “What part called them traitors, liars, called for their resignation, recall, or stated the desire to “deport” either one? I read it twice and never saw the names at all. That is the difference. While Shadegg is attacking the legislation, and perhaps the Senate as a whole, he is not taking a personal swipe at anyone.”

    ???

    Neither did Pullen. Stick to the facts!

  3. Keen Observer says

    Trust whom? These days the answer, unfortunately, seems to be,”No one!”
    Sproul involvement on any level raises antenna sky high.

  4. Conservative Guy says

    Ann said –

    “I’m sure the usual suspects will respond and attack me, Gordon & Lisa James, Nathan Sproul, and whoever else is not in the kool-aid crowd.”

    Ann – you, Sproul, & Lisa James are alienating yourselves from the rest of the party by labeling those majority of Republicans who don’t support this bill the “kool-aid crowd.” It’s comments like these which are marginalizing you out of the GOP. Until you three in particular (and McCain) stop attacking the party base, you will not win the support of a majority of Republicans.

  5. Jon Manleigh says

    If any of you are on the AZ GOP executive committee, I STRONGLY URGE you to read this e-mail below. This was posted on Politico Mafioso. We CANNOT let a Nathan Sproul hand-picked puppet become the next national committeeman. PLEASE SUPPORT BRIDWELL! We don’t need to give a RINO a vote at the RNC.

    From: Chris Dahm [mailto:dahmchris@yahoo.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:55 AM
    To: nathan@sproulassociates.com
    Subject: Need your opinion

    Nathan,

    As you know, the AZ GOP Exec. Comm. is meeting in Prescott on Saturday to vote for a new National Committeeman to replace Randy Pullen. We want to make sure that the candidate we choose shares my strong pro-life beliefs. I trust and value you opinion on the candidates. Which of the two do you think shares our pro-life and conservative values best?

    Thanks.. look forward to hearing from you.

    Chris Dahm

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    Nathan Sproul wrote:
    From: “Nathan Sproul”
    To: “‘Chris Dahm'”
    Subject: RE: Need your opinion
    Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 09:31:12 -0700

    Chris,

    I think the choice for National Committeeman is, in my opinion, relatively obvious. I don’t know Bridwell, so he may be a perfectly good person. So, my endorsement of Bruce Ash is in no way anti-Bridwell.

    However, I don’t think there are many people in Arizona that have the stature of Bruce Ash. You and I both share a deep conviction about respecting the sanctity of life. I know that you are as pro-life as me, so to answer your question, I know that Bruce Ash is pro-choice. I think Bridwell is pro-life. In my opinion, this is a position where pro-life vs. pro-choice really isn’t relevant. I supported Mike Hellon 100% against Randy Pullen even though Hellon was pro-choice. The National Committeeman never deals with the issue.

    The National Committeeman’s main job is to be a face for the RNC within Arizona and to represent Arizona to the RNC. Right now, we desperately need someone who will help keep our Party unified. Bruce Ash really is the “big tent” Republican we need right now. I think Ash will seek to find common ground with everyone, moderates and conservatives, and that is crucial to winning elections. As much as I would like to win elections with just conservative voters, the numbers don’t work that way. We need all sides of the Party feeling like they have a voice. I think Ash brings those factions together.

    It is obviously no secret that Pullen’s stock at the Republican National Committee has dropped dramatically in the past couple weeks since he launched his broadside on Bush/McCain/Kyl. Then, he went so far as to call our National Chairman “amnesty Mel” on the record to the Washington Times. I am convinced that Bruce will be a strong counter-balance to Randy Pullen at the Republican National Committee. Ultimately, I think Ash will even become the de facto AZGOP Chairman as everyone turns to him instead of Pullen. Thus, it would make Pullen even less relevant.

    This is one of those times I wish I had a vote on the Executive Committee. If you share my thoughts with folks, please be careful who you send them to. Not everyone appreciates my perspective. Thanks…

    I almost forgot, he is as big of a supporter of John McCain as you and me. With all the anti-McCain feelings down at the AZGOP right now, Bruce Ash would be a pro-McCain voice representing us from Arizona.

    Nathan Sproul
    Sproul & Associates
    80 East Rio Salado Parkway, Suite 814
    Tempe, Arizona 85281
    480-303-7175

    ——————————————————————-

    Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:38:58 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Chris Dahm
    Subject: Fwd: RE: Need your opinion
    To: Chris Dahm

    Dear Friends,

    I don’t know either of the individuals running for National Committeemen. I am only forwarding the email below to a small group of folks to get thoughts and responses. Below is one perspective that I trust, please let me know if you agree or disagree. After reading the email below, I am leaning toward voting for Bruce Ash. Thoughts?

  6. KingmanRepublican says

    That’s all I need to read. I’m calling my county’s executive committee members and telling them in no uncertain terms that I EXPECT them to support Bridwell. Nathan Sproul’s tentacles have done enough damage.

  7. Observer says

    My first reaction to the email exchange between these two is that Bruce Ash must be shaking his head and asking “why are they talking about me?” Unfortunately for Ash, Sproul’s kiss of death might actually jeopardize what was widely expected to be a done deal for the position. I’ve got to tell you, that Sproul is one bright bulb.

  8. I just read what Nathan had to say about Bruce Ash. While I don’t mind that Bruce supported McCain, I do mind that he is pro-choice.

    I wish I was on the committee so I could vote for Bridwell.

  9. Ann,

    I failed to mention earlier.

    What a well-thought post on Congressman Shadegg. I am forever intrigued by how wonderful you articulate your position and you say things that I think about but don’t have the guts to say.

    Bravo Ann!!!

  10. Keen Observer says

    Cs4GOP:
    Bruce Ash is PRO-LIFE, not pro-choice. Where you got that information is anyone’s guess, but it is absolutely wrong.

    This brouhaha has Sproul’s fingerprints all over it. He wants Ash, so he marginalizes him thinking the true conservatives will jump to his fetid bait.

    Be careful here. Be very careful.
    This election is just filling out the remaining months of Pullen’s term. This is not a full term regardless of whoever wins.

  11. Keen Observer,

    You are giving Nathan WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT!!!

  12. if you have questions about Ash, go to his website and find out what he’s all about.
    http://www.ashforarizona.com/
    I dont see any mention of pro-choice anywhere. and for that matter, who gives a flying hoot what a guy like Nate Sproul thinks. my vote is mine to cast, and im supporting Ash because I know him to be an honorable man.

  13. Hope Sproul doesn’t hurt himself as he flings himself on the Bruce Ash Express. Poor guy must be so desperate to back a winner that he’s trying to jump on a crowded bandwagon just before it crosses the finish line. A victory he’ll no doubt try to take credit for.

  14. Oro Valley Dad says

    Tim,

    I think you hit the nail on the head.

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