Nothing new under the sun.

     Now that the situation in Iraq has turned around we can move onto the next major conflict, Iran. The latest NIE report on Iran has done little to settle the issue. I certainly hope that the plans for engaging Iran go better than the scenario laid out in Stanley Kubrick’s 1964 film Dr. Strangelove.

     I am not sure how much longer I will be allowed to continue writing on SA with posts like this one. If this is my last story it has been fun. I am actually quite disappointed that Matt over at SED has not yet picked up on the prescient nature of this film, still relevant 40 years after being produced. In the war room scene I can just picture Mike Huckabee as President Merkin Meffley listening to one of the characters behind the early version of the current Iraq conflict (I cannot say Neocon because that has a whole other meaning that I do not intend to convey) playing General Turgidson. Matt, I feel let down. The final scene of the movie where Dr. Strangelove recommends going down the mineshafts is quite open for satire from the left. Yes that is James Earl Jones as one of the crewmembers on the B-52.

     It is almost impossible to pick out a favorite line in such a rich film but certainly Turgidson’s line “I don’t think it’s quite fair to condemn the whole program because of a single slip up sir” is one of the best.


  1. One of THE best movies of all time…

    “there’s no fighting in the war room!”

  2. OVD,

    Ha! Ha! If you look at my profile you’ll see this film listed as a favorite. Kubrick was a genius.

    Like Bergman and Lynch, he was his own artist. Strangelove has many fantastic lines and scenes. I happen to appreciate the two presidents talking on the phone, “I am also upset, Dmitri. Yes, Dmitri, I am as upset as you are upset.”

    Then there’s the bit about the precious bodily fluids. Oh, priceless.

  3. OVD,

    You will always have a seat reserved at the SA Table!

    The beauty of Sonoran Alliance is we have a diversity of conservative opinions. Now if I can just have some of our other writers post more often!

    I agree with ThinkRight on the best line, “Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here! This is the war room!”

  4. OVD,

    Upon the first read I didn’t quite catch your wording about being allowed to continue.

    Somewhere else I heard there may be a certain censorship at work regarding this place. So I guess it’s freedom of speech so long as you say what SA approves? So SA is “approved” content?

    Reminds me of a recent bill the house passed. We believe in freedom of speech, unless of course, you say something we don’t like. If you say something our experts consider consistent with a profile of someone considering committing a terrorist act, off to a jail cell you go to be tortured.

    Oh, we don’t torture. I forgot.

    If SA eliminates your ability to post material, start your own blog. I’ll link to your place. Not sure if you know Framer. Perhaps your contributions would be welcome over there.

    Dialog amongst the well meaning, however heated, contested, or opposing, forwards the discourse.

  5. Funny how once more than one person is in the room everyone claims they lost their freedom to occupy 100% of the space. SA is a community, not a 1 man show. Or not. If I invite you to guest blog, I can uninvite you. It’s a house party, not a road trip. No one wants their blog to turn into garbage. Especially someone else’s.

    Then again, if I really did fail to exercise self-restraint as a writer or a person I would be banned everywhere.

    It is too bad that cliches like “free speech” or “academic freedom” are cited whenever there’s a disagreement. They are commodities, with varying prices, which means some value them more than others. Hence, a transaction occurs. Sometimes it results in successful truth-seeking, otherwise not.

    Anyway, I am starting to believe that being able to produce satire, like the Dr. S film, are far more valuable to our society than any “right” to free speech. Probably because the BIll of Rights was written long after “art” but way before mass media.

  6. Oro Valley Dad says

    I am sorry that my attempt at even more irony was misunderstood. SA has never censored what I have said. I do though on occasion hear from some readers who know who I am. I did not mean to scream “free speech.”

    Seriously, I do think the film has some amazing parallels to today. I am surprised that someone else has not written about that before me. We will know that we are in for more trouble when Ambassador John Bolton starts talking about Iran attempting to poison our “bodily fluids.”

    Another favorite line is when General Turgidson is concerned about the Russian Ambassador entering the war room. “Are you aware of what a serious breach of security that would be? I mean he’ll see everything, he’ll see the big board.”

  7. The true culprit is flouride.

  8. For the record, the only time I will exercise editorial discretion on SA is if someone uses vulgarity or posts something that is clearly slanderous or libelous. Anyone I invite to write here is required to keep it clean and credible. I also do not reveal the identity of any of the writers who write under pseudonyms. If they get “outed,” it is not because of me. In fact, I won’t even tell each writer who the other writers are. That’s our policy on SA and I’m stickin to it!

  9. Col Bat Guano, if that is indeed your real name

  10. You’re going to have to answer to the Coca-Cola company.

  11. Mandrake, have you ever heard of ‘flouridation’?

  12. Maj "King" Kong says

    Well, I’ve been to one world fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that’s the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones!

  13. Mr. President, we must not allow a mineshaft gap!

  14. That does it. Now I’m going to have to buy the DVD.

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