McCain and the POW Coverup

clip about John McCain opposing efforts to bring home POWs taken from the film Missing, Presumed Dead: The  Search for America’s POWs

There is a longstanding story of POWs in Viet Nam, even ones who have returned home and are living today in the US, who were betrayed and forgotten.  

In a recent article written by Ron Unz, former publisher and owner of American Conservative monthly magazine:

Vietnamese refused to return their American POWs unless the U.S. government agreed to pay reparations. Nixon signed a document promising to do exactly that, but the Vietnamese, being cautious, kept many of the POWs back until the money was delivered. Then Congress refused to authorize the funds because “America doesn’t lose wars.” Nixon and later U.S. leaders never acknowledged the fate of these captives lest the American people become outraged. And as the years and decades went by, and various schemes to ransom or rescue the POWs were considered and rejected, their continued existence became a major liability to numerous powerful political figures, whose reputations would have been destroyed if any of the prisoners ever returned and told his story to the American people. So none of them ever came home.

John McCain is one of those politicians whose reputations would have been destroyed by the late return of POWs from Viet Nam after, as Congressman and Senator from Arizona, he opposed efforts to work with veterans groups and the Vietnamese to bring home US vets.

Additional testimony regarding John McCain’s actions detrimental to the POW/MIA movement and efforts to bring vets home, along with testimony of witnesses that John McCain produced 22 (some say 32) propaganda films on behalf of the North Vietnamese and against US interests (since sealed and classified by the federal government), can be found in a documentary entitled:

Missing, Presumed Dead: The Search for America’s POWs

If you have some time, read “Was Rambo Right?”, by Ron Unz and get a hold of a copy of Missing, Presumed Dead: The Search for America’s POWs.

 


Comments

  1. You realize that this is the political equivalent of blood libel. Words like desperate, low, and pathetic don’t even begin to describe this.

  2. Oberserve says

    It’s only libel if it’s not true.

    The question is, is it true?

  3. This movie is nothing more than a bunch of lies and fabrications made up by a small group of activists, even though every committee, every testimony, every piece of documentation proved that there was nothing to these allegations.

    Exactly like SA. A blog containing a bunch of lies and fabrications made up by a small group of activists who know their boy JD is going to have a horrible, embarrassing loss.

    If SA is given enough rope, I hope I’m able to attend your trial when you’re brought up on slander and libel charges.

  4. Oberserve says

    LD17, eyewitness accounts. Committee footage of the Senate committee with eyewitness vets testifying and Sen McCain (and all others except one) absent. Actual POWs and vets who were there after 1975 and were brought home. It goes on and on.

    Watergate didn’t happen either, did it?

  5. Hmm. This has been volleyed back and forth for most of my adult life, the fundamanental nature of McCain’s POW experience, so have heard a number of these allegations before, not ever in a contiguous piece though.

    Without making a judgment about how true this is, a general truism is that anyone with these sort of questions about not totally explained previous conduct would be very vunerable to all sorts of high and low blackmail pressure.

  6. Steve Calabrese says

    It is very curious that Soviet records indicate the Vietnamese had roughly 1100 US POW’S, Nixon felt that was an accurate number, and a few months later we received 591 POW’s back. Where were the rest?

  7. Walt Stephenson says

    I worked with George “Lucky Patterson” for years. His brother, James Patterson( Google him) was shot down over N. Vietnam and was missing in action, presumed dead. As I’m a Viet Nam Vet I was very interested in Lucky’s search for his brother. It took him from the spot his brother was shot down in N. Viet Nam to Russia where some POW’s were reportedly spotted. I have read confidential reports and thousands of pages of interviews. Did the N. Vietnamese keep some POW’s? I don’t know. I’m convinced some of the more technical POW’s were taken to Russia and China. The chance they survived is almost zero as they would be an embarrassment to the respective Governments.

    In my opinion who ever wrote this article is a liar. He has disgraced himself, this blog and all Viet Nam Veterans.

  8. Oberserve says

    Walt, Your comment is interesting.

    You acknowledge that there probably are or were POWs left in viet Nam and you’re convinced to the point where some even ended up in Russia.

    That seems to be in agreement with Steve’s comment before yours.

    However, you then accuse the SA post’s author of being a liar for essentially posting the work of POW/MIA groups (the film) and an excerpt of an article written by amconmag.com former publisher and owner also confirming essentially the same thing.

    The dots don’t seem to connect.

  9. Walt, LD17, Travis and Ann are typical liberal, McCainiac appartchiks!

    If anything is perceived dangerous to their candidate they will blather away under a wall of platitudes to avoid the gist of an argument, or in Walt’s case, resort to outright contradiction.

    At bottom, they share a contempt for the intelligence of their audiences much like their master!

    I’m waiting for them to address us as My Friends!

    BTW: Regarding the killing of the M.I.A legislation and McCain’s participation, you should contact Bob Dornan and Bob Smith who co-sponsored the legistlation.

    They were livid regarding “The John’s” behavior and gave severa interviews on the subject!

  10. “Mad” Arizonan is right.

    This is a gross example of desperation on JD Hayworth’s part. Sad.

    I hope everyone who reads this tripe will call the few people who endorse JD and ask them if they endorse THIS. My money is on the fact that they don’t.

    Signs of desperation so close to the election means JD is toast.

    Those who care about their reputations should abandon ship soon.

  11. This adds to my reasons why I will not be voting for that tyrant McCain in August. Unlike most Republicans here in the State I still remember how he was trying to force amnesty down our throats and he didn’t care that we his consituants didn’t want it. If re-elected he will go right back where he was before and be a leftest radical. McCain is a Democrat disguised with and R after his name.

  12. Murray Rothbard says

    McPain is a lying socialist tool of the military-industrial complex, and the fact that several of his paid operatives are trolling this blog is pathetic. Of course, Hayworthless is also a proven warmongering fascist tool, so there is no need to vote for either of these crooks or the Democratic Socialist who will be thrown in there to appease “the left” (as though there is any difference between “the left” and “the right” in today’s American police state).

    “If voting could change the system it wouldn’t be legal.”–Butler Shaffer

    “Under democracy, one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule – and both commonly succeed, and are right.” – H.L. Mencken

    “I don’t give a damn who does the voting, as long as I do the nominating.” –Boss Tweed

    “The state can only survive as long as a majority is programmed to believe that theft isn’t wrong if it’s called taxation or asset forfeiture or eminent domain, that assault and kidnapping isn’t wrong if it’s called arrest, that mass murder isn’t wrong if it’s called war.”– Bill St. Clair

  13. Jack Hammer says

    This is not exactly disappearing!

    If you’re looking for a good report from a former congressman on how the coverup system is employed, check out:

    http://www.amconmag.com/article/2010/jul/01/00023/

  14. DrBombay says

    I say it’s all true.

    Why? Because if it truly wasn’t then McStain would have sued for libel.

    But that would have opened up everything to discovery and he KNOWS what that would expose and he would toast.

    Better to let the allegations linger then to confirm the truth.

  15. I would remind you folks that McCain’s position and behavior were demonstrated at Congressiona open hearings regarding M.I.A centered legislation.

    He fought it “tooth and nail” much to the surprise of the Veterans Group witnesses who testified on its behalf.

    The youtube videos which emerged during the 2008’s presidential campaign are “out there” and will confirm the validity of the column!

  16. Funny world we live in, the wealthy class pushing their addictive and harmful products by hourly commercials to every man, woman and child, showing them that drinking, smoking and popping pills is the smart thing to do, why it may even get you laid.

    I think that the McCain family benefits every time anyone becomes an addict, it’s like money in the bank. And thus starts the misery.

  17. Walt Stephenson says

    To politicize POW’s or any person or group on a day we honor our war hero’s and those that died for our Country is disgraceful.

  18. Conservative says

    McCain truly is a liberal scum bag. Because he has to face us the voters in the primary he thinks spending millions on commercials trying to give him a conservative makeover will help, well we have not forgotten how this left wing nut job behaves when he is not up for re-election. He is the problem with the republican party, we have allowed “progressives” like him in the party and they have lead us astray. He is pals with John Kerry, Lindsey Graham (leftest senator from S.C) and many other “progressives.
    I will not support him, in fact as a life long republican, if he wins the primary I will support the democrat, why? Because at least there I will know I m voting for someone honest enough to tell me they are for a socialist form of government rather than vote for someone who has had a miraculous change of views just before election and will turn away from we t he voters again once he gets re-elected.

    Be a patriot and do NOT vote for this spineless fool.

  19. Murray Rothbard says

    Check out McPain’s latest abomination in the Senate. He and Lieberman are thick as thieves as usual.

    http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.3081:

    This bill gives the executive branch the power to declare any American a terrrrrist on a whim and detain them indefinitely without trial. Yes–American citizens are expressly included in this police state bill. You can bet both antiwar lefties and Tea Party righties are high on the list, but greenies, gun owners, libertarians and others will certainly be considered potential inmates for the McPain-Obama camps.

    The most heinous provisions are cited below from the actual bill:

    (2) CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION OF INDIVIDUALS AS HIGH-VALUE DETAINEES- The regulations required by this subsection shall include criteria for designating an individual as a high-value detainee based on the following:

    A) The potential threat the individual poses for an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the United States or upon United States citizens or United States civilian facilities abroad at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States.
    (B) The potential threat the individual poses to United States military personnel or United States military facilities at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States.
    (C) The potential intelligence value of the individual.
    (D) Membership in al Qaeda or in a terrorist group affiliated with al Qaeda.
    (E) Such other matters as the President considers appropriate.

    An individual, including a citizen of the United States, determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent under section 3(c)(2) in a manner which satisfies Article 5 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners in which the individual has engaged, or which the individual has purposely and materially supported, consistent with the law of war and any authorization for the use of military force provided by Congress pertaining to such hostilities.

  20. Murray the link you provided is not coming up

  21. Murray Rothbard says

    Hey Pepper–

    The link is weird, but the info is still there at thomas.gov. Just go to their main page and search by bill number for S. 3081 and click on the text of the legislation. It’s short and scary…

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