Liberal Horne Struggles Vs Thomas In Debate; Used “Complete Sham” To Boost Test Scores

Horne Engages In “Complete Sham” To Compensate For Poor Results; Fails In First Debate

PHOENIX, ARIZONA.  JUNE 3, 2010.  State Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Horne is running in a GOP primary for Attorney General in which he is being battered for reducing test scores among Arizona students while his opponent, Andrew Thomas, reduced crime during that same period.  

Despite numerous reports confirming Horne’s poor leadership and falling test scores he is busily working trying to rewrite history.  And he is one who certainly knows how to cook the books.  

Back in 2006, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Ryan Gabrielson (East Valley Tribune, 7/25/2006) detailed Horne’s deletion of certain students to boost state test scores.  When asked about Horne’s actions a U.S. Department of Education official labeled them “a complete sham.”

Now, facing the more conservative Thomas and an avalanche of support for him from Arizona law enforcement officials, will Horne do the same?  

Judging by his first debate performance Thursday night he just might.  His support for amnesty for illegal immigrants, taxpayer funding for abortion and opposition to conservative principles on just about . . . anything, took center stage at the debate.  

“I am running against four Democrats for Attorney General and tonight proved again that Tom Horne is among them,” Thomas said. “The Republican race is a clear contrast between a conservative and a liberal and one who successfully reduced crime while in office versus someone who sadly reduced test scores while in charge of our schools.”

For a copy of the Tribune article or for more information please contact Jason Rose.

Comments

  1. I attended the debate last night and it was pitiful. Horne kept making wild assertions and Thomas would call him on them as lies, even demanded that he retract one of them, which Horne didn’t. Horne is trying to lie his way into the Attorney General’s Office. I hope the Thomas campaign issues something denouncing each and every one of the lies. It was appalling.

  2. Horne can’t even run the education system. What do you think he would as AG? Andy has my vote.

  3. obamanation says

    Nothing better than bold-faced lies to prop up one’s campaign. Wish these guys would figure out that they might get more support if they switched their party affiliations. We really don’t need more RINOS insisting that they are just “moderates” so that they can appeal to both sides of the fence. McCain tried that tack in 2008 and look how well he did.

    Anyone Youtube this? I’d love to see for myself what the fracas looked like.

  4. Just think how much lower the crime rate will go when Thomas is indicted and out of power? The cost of his and Joe’s lawsuits alone could get the county back in the black!

    Oh yeah…we should all vote for the guy who has been found to use his office for political gain and persecution…NOT!

    You can dress up Thomas’ motives any way you want, it was still wrong, it is the worst kind of corruption, and Andrew Thomas is the sham.

  5. Arizona Ranger says

    Friends,
    The work of Andy Thomas was anything but a sham. He identified criminal activity and went after it-tooth and nail! The criminal activity just happened to involve most of our Board of Supervisors and their nefarious habits. The story of how our Board of Supervisors, who do not answer to anyone but the voters, have been outright crooks will come into the light once the Federal investigation is completed and their inevitable trial is held. Thomas will be vindicated completely.
    Andy Thomas was a great County Attorney and this evidence by his extremely high success rate in prosecuting criminals. He will make an even better State Attorney. Let’s give our support to a man of very high ethics and fortitude: Andy Thomas!

  6. Stephen Kohut says

    Ann,

    Find a few RINOs, have a few beers, and get ready for your boys to get rolled on 8/24.

  7. PHX Conservative says

    Andrew Thomas as the Maricopa County Attorney did nothing in that office other that prosecutes people for political gain and intimidation. He has not one shred of evidence that he could share last night because there is NO EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!

  8. 20/30 GOP says

    Dude, there were so many RINOs that showed up in support of Thomas last night. What’s Thomas’ deal with being such a spend-thrifty RINO? Now this 1 cent sales tax increase is in place and Thomas wants to be AG so he can waste more of my money on lawsuits that go nowhere? Then he quits office to seek higher office???

  9. Jane 001 says

    The idea that Horne would defend SB1070 is fantasy. In 2007, he had a plan to reward the children of illegal immigrants with citizenship if they graduated from high school. Had he done a better job getting them out of high school, he may not have abandoned that plan.

  10. Right wing Bob says

    Ann/Susan Bitter Smith, maybe if you hadn’t joined the Defend Don Stapley criminal defense fund as a trustee, to protect him from Arpaio and Thomas prosecuting him, you wouldn’t be stuck spending all your time criticizing Thomas in the comments in order to help your pal Stapley. He is still being prosecuted on both cases and based on the evidence, that corrupt Supervisor is going down. Politicians are not above the law.

  11. Eevie Shaw says

    “LIBEL!” – Mr. Jason Rose from the Tribune!

    “Check out Andrew Thomas’s racial book entitled, “Crime and the Sacking of America” where he states a genetic study must be conducted on our Black Community to see why they commit such high rates of crime …”

    Andrew Thomas, convicted liar, resorts to outright blatant lies, and twisting of the truth, in his scratching desperation to erroneously compare apples to oranges -AIMS Arizona’s Instrument to Measure Standards versus Florida’s independently created/normed test specifically for the state of Florida! Arizona performs above the national average according to the Terra Nova Test …. Mr. Thomas and Mr. Jason Rose!

    Tom upholds the U.S. Federal Law stating AZ’s schools must educate all children under the age of 18 … whether from undocumented families or not. This is not amnesty, and he does not support amnesty! (Tom upholds the Federal Laws even when he doesn’t agree with them – characteristic of a high-standing attorney)

    “Tom is respected amongst judges and respects the law – the two most fundamental differences behind Horne and Thomas.”

    “We need an Attorney General who will win cases with honest, truthful persuasion – Avoiding the intimidation and maligning retribution techniques that Thomas uses to destroy reputations!” – Otherwise, businesses will flee from Arizona!

    Tom never voted for abortion on demand; he has always been a strong pro-life supporter … check his voting record in our legislature, and he pledges to continue to support all pro-life bills passed as AZ’s Attorney General.

    Get the wax out Thomas and Jason Rose (Tribune)! Why do you blatantly omit the facts that were presented at the debate? – Libel.

    Sneaky, shady Andrew Thomas’s hands were wet and stone-cold FREEZING after shaking them following Thursday’s debate at the Fox Grill. Need I say more?

    In contrast, Mr. Tom Horne did an integritous, honest job at exposing the corrupt intimidation and retribution techniques Andrew Thomas engages in repeatedly that cost Arizona Taxpayers millions of dollars!

    More to come …. I have to verify my facts first before I publish the rest because integrity is the only policy.

    Love you Arizona!

    Tom Horne for Attorney General 2010
    and
    Margaret Dugan for State Superintendent of Schools!

    ~ Eevie Shaw
    “There’s a new kid in town.”

  12. Eevie Shaw says

    “LIBEL!” – Mr. Jason Rose from the Tribune!

    “Check out Andrew Thomas’s racial book entitled, “Crime and the Sacking of America” where he states a genetic study must be conducted on our Black Community to see why they commit such high rates of crime …”

    Andrew Thomas, resorts to outright blatant lies, and twisting of the truth, in his scratching desperation to erroneously compare apples to oranges -AIMS Arizona’s Instrument to Measure Standards versus Florida’s independently created/normed test specifically for the state of Florida!

    Arizona performs above the national average according to the Terra Nova Test …. Mr. Thomas and Mr. Jason Rose!

    Tom upholds the U.S. Federal Law stating AZ’s schools must educate all children under the age of 18 … whether from undocumented families or not. This is not amnesty, and he does not support amnesty! (Tom upholds the Federal Laws even when he doesn’t agree with them – characteristic of a high-standing attorney)

    “Tom is respected amongst judges and respects the law – the two most fundamental differences behind Horne and Thomas.”

    “We need an Attorney General who will win cases with honest, truthful persuasion – Avoiding the intimidation and maligning retribution techniques that Thomas uses to destroy reputations!” – Otherwise, businesses will flee from Arizona!
    Tom never voted for abortion on demand; he has always been a strong pro-life supporter … check his voting record in our legislature, and he pledges to continue to support all pro-life bills passed as AZ’s Attorney General.

    Get the wax out Thomas and Jason Rose (Tribune)! Why do you blatantly omit the facts that were presented at the debate? – Libel.

    Sneaky, shady Andrew Thomas’s hands were wet and stone-cold FREEZING after shaking them following Thursday’s debate at the Fox Grill. Need I say more?

    In contrast, Mr. Tom Horne did an integritous, honest job at exposing the corrupt intimidation and retribution techniques Andrew Thomas engages in repeatedly that cost Arizona Taxpayers millions of dollars!

    More to come …. I have to verify my facts first before I publish the rest because integrity is the only policy.

    Love you Arizona!

    Tom Horne for Attorney General 2010
    and
    Margaret Dugan for State Superintendent of Schools!

    ~ Eevie Shaw
    “There’s a new kid in town.”

  13. Stephen Kohut says

    It has to be hard for the handful of RINOs to keep their fake blog names straight when they spew crap on SA.

    Using criteria based, non-normalized test scores as reported by the Dept. of Education, AZ students have made NO improvement since the 1990’s. Zip. Nada. Nothing. Florida’s students, on the other hand, have advanced over 1.5 grades in reading since the 1998 reforms driven by Jeff Bush. FL’s Hispanic students out score the average AZ student by over 1 grade. FL’s black students score almost identical to the average AZ student. Horne has gone squat even though the method to improve student performance on demographics virtually idential to AZ’s has been known for years. Dugan has been right behind Horne in not educating AZ student. What a worthless duo!

  14. Eevie Shaw says

    Stephen,

    When you throw a rock into a pack of wolves, the one who “yelps the loudest” is the one who got “hit the hardest.” Shame, shame in the RINO assumption, for you should know the old adage about assuming. Well, I’ve never seen more lies reported in my life, but the light always overcomes the darkness, and everything always comes out in the wash. These Andrew Pompous supporters get so agitated when they hear the truth … Reminds me of the Senate Bill 1070 opposition where rocks and bottles are thrown at the AZ Courthouse, and Joe Arpaio’s horses are beat with sticks. Not to mention, he’s burned in effigy, and they call for his demise. These Thomas puppets also sadly mirror Eric Holder (U.S. Attorney General) and Reyes (L.A.’s Police Chief) who ignorantly misrepresent the bill claiming it’s unconstitutional when they haven’t even read it. Donkey leaders misleading the uneducated populous over the cliff right along with them! And again, (reminds me of the debate – wisdom is foolishness to a fool!) you cannot compare state standardized tests against each other (apples to oranges) because each state creates their own standards, and the question lies at what grade level the proficiency/mastery level is set at? Each state’s individualized tests are created for and administered in that particular state only, and their results cannot be compared against each other because they are not nationally normed! Hello, this is Statistics 101 Stephen my friend. Thus, the above mentioned data would not be VALID nor RELIABLE. Instead, one must utilize a nationally normed test (Hence, the Terra Nova) to compare test results nationally! Please enlighten Mr. Thomas! Furthermore, Mr. Horne and Mrs. Dugan worked together to co-author the Language of Prop. 203, which passed in 2000, banning Bilingual Education that didn’t work, and implemented four hours of Structured English Emersion which, are you ready for this … close your ears because you’re going to get mad …. which has tripled our ELL population’s English proficiency rates. Not too shabby when half of AZ’s ELL population consist of children from illegal families,(and some may be migrant) and AZ borders a third world Spanish-speaking country. Finally sir, your word choice belongs in the toilet, rather than in somebody’s mouth! How dare you LIE to Arizonans throwing around untruths. Andrew Thomas protégé! However, I know this is the lack of character we are up against this year. It takes a much bigger person to admit they are supporting the wrong person than it does to continue to claw in their attempts to cover the candidate’s sin. – This contrasts Mr. Horne’s conversion from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party y-e-a-r-s ago (No Thomas, not yesterday!) just as Ronald Regan, etc. have done. Why is the alcoholic always the last to know he has the problem? ~ I’m going to focus my efforts on non-frivolous projects now where there are “ears who want to hear and eyes who strive to see.” You know, it’s too bad the so-called Conservative Group can’t work together. Unfortunately, that would consist of them “wanting” to actually see the truth.

    Thank you Arizona. I will never stop reporting the truth to you!
    ~ Eevie “There’s a New Kid in Town!”

  15. Hey Ann!

    I see you want Arpaio off the public’s back!

    Hmmm!

    You didn’t seem to share that feeling when he supported your campaign the last time around.

    Did Joe “wise up”?

  16. Tom Horne is a fabulous man, and a man of great brilliance and great integrity, Tom has done a fabulous job in Education and in all of his endeavors in life- why?? Why is because he is a child of the most high God, he is a man with a foundation based on God and the teachings of the bible. Tom’s love and compassion for for others is shown through his works and his character of a good man, and specifically directed through God. The devil is a individual that deceives others into believing wicked, and that is what Tom’s opponent tries to do to Tom- but Tom and all of us who know Tom, knows what Tom stands for and Tom stands for righteousness and what is going to better our State- when a person rebuke’s satan and tells him to flee, satan has to leave, and Tom’s opponent needs to leave and let God’s power that God has filled Tom with, shine in full authority. This is almost a scenario of in the bible when David conquers Goliath, Tom will conquer Andrew Thomas in this year’s election through the Power of God and what God has equipped Tom with. The bible says, greater is who that is in Tom than who that is in the world. The words of the bible also say, for those who curse the Jews will be cursed and for those who bless the Jews will be blessed. Pretty plain and simple- Tom is going to be our next Attorney General for 2010!!!!!!!! Yeah FOR TOM HORNE!!!!!!!! Give God all the Glory and Praise, Tom, you are the best in the world!!!!!! You are a wonderful man to work for and I find it to be a great honor to know you and to back you up 110 percent, as many of us feel the same way. There is no challenge between you and Andrew Thomas, Andrew Thomas is a deceiver, just like the devil………. He is untruthful to many and will not be rewarded his crown in heaven or society for being a deceiver……… I can’t wait until you Tom Horne are awarded your honor to become our next Attorney General- 2010— YEAH TOM HORNE!!!!! God bless you and may God open the eyes of others to come into agreement with your looking out for what is going to benefit the State of Arizona for present and years to follow, you are simply the best!!!!!!!!!!!! Kelly S. Miles

  17. Hmmm!

    Is the prior post satirical or demneted?

    Take yer pick!

  18. I guess Kelly has drunk the Kool-Aid

  19. Stephen Kohut says

    Eevie (?) & The Horne Campaign,

    I can see that the Horne campaign workers are out in full force and lying through their teeth about Tom’s terrible record in education. The data I quoted is from the Dept. of Education’s national statistics (link below) and their analysis is painfully sound to Mr. Horne discomfort.

    4th grade reading scores

    1998 2009

    Nation 213 220
    AZ 206 210
    FL 206 226 2 year improvement

    8th grade reading scores
    1998 2009
    Nation 261 262
    AZ 260 258
    FL 255 264 1 year improvement

    10 points = 1 year improvement in reading

    On a personal basis I hold both an engineering degree and an MBA, have had stats at the undergrad and grad levels, use them in industry and teach stats in industrial settings. What are your qualifications?

    http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pdf/main2009/2010458.pdf

  20. The LORD PROMOTES!

    Lord Jesus we lift this campaign up to you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. We know that you work all things together for good for those who love you and are called according to your purpose. The wolf comes in sheep’s clothing, and the enemy PROWLS THE EARTH SEEKING WHOM HE MAY KILL AND DESTROY.

    Bad company corrupts good character!

    Satan is the MASTER OF LIES AND CONFUSION and he knows not truth because there is no truth found in him.

    A wolf appears in sheep’s clothing, and the enemy comes as an Angel of Light.

    The naive man believes anything, but the sensible man considers his steps.

    Pride comes before a fall!

    A double-minded man is like that of the waves being tossed to and fro.

    The hackling of the wicked is like the crackling embers of a dying fire.

    The Lord despises the proud and exhorts the humble.

    For we know that both righteous and wicked cannot spring from the same well.

    There is a way unto a man that seems right but in the end it leads to destruction.

    It’s appointed unto man to die and to face the Judgment Seat.

    For it’s a joy to overlook a transgression!

    Father forgive them, for they know not what they do!

    Your thoughts are on those who honor You, and You search the hearts and minds of those who are called according to Your purpose.

    I pray your hand of blessing and anointing on this campaign, and let us be the salt of the earth, which preserves, and not just grit in somebody’s teeth!

    In You there is perfect peace, rest, and joy!

    The enemy falsely appears as an Angel of Light. We shall not throw our pearls amongst swine. FOR IT IS WRITTEN THE LORD PROMOTES! Blessed is the nation that blesses Israel, and cursed is the nation that curses Israel. Tom is of your blessed, Holy City Lord – your chosen people, and we thank You in advance for creating him in Your image, and for placing him in this seat of authority and leadership – for blessing and anointing the fragrance of truth that permeates from his lips. For when we are faithful with a little you entrust us with a lot. I know you have predestined good works for us in advance so that we may walk in them, and your Word extinguishes the fiery arrows of the enemy. You tell us they will know who Your disciples are by the love they have for one another – your perfect/pure Agape love, and they will also, “Know them by their fruits.” Ripe or rotten – truth or lies – fresh or spoiled and poisoned?!

    We reap what we sow, and you despise the haughty/proud but exhort the humble, and to be the greatest amongst few we must be least amongst many. You have not given us a spirit of timidity, but of Love, Power, and of a Sound mind.

    A house divided amongst itself will inherit the wind. For we shall let our light so shine amongst men so that they may see our good works and glorify the Father who is in heaven. You shall draw all men unto yourself Father. Greater Is He Who Is in Me than he Who is In the World!

    Get behind me Satan!

    For we do not hide our light under a bush, and we shall never tire in doing good – fighting the good fight. We do not repay evil for evil but vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord! For we are not to be lukewarm or you will spit us from your mouths. For there is a way unto man that seems right, but in the end it leads to destruction. We shall not repay evil for evil, and the Lord restores seven times over what the enemy has destroyed! The Lord blesses them whose hearts and minds are fixed upon Him. For wisdom is foolishness to a fool, and don’t let a snake into your garden! Lucifer is like a lion prowling the earth looking for whom he may kill and destroy. Vengeance is mine says the Lord, and we shall not repay evil for evil! Satan condemns, but the Lord convicts. We shall be held accountable for every word that proceeds form our mouths for the power of life and death is in the tongue. Every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!

    You don’t hide a lamp under a bush, and a soldier does not entangle himself in the affairs of this world. Be shrewd as a serpent and gentle as a dove. God said it, he meant it, that settles it. When two or more are gathered in Your name, You are there in their midst.

    He knows the end from the beginning, and He remembers the future!

    We can do all things through Christ who strengthens us. God bless you, and thank you in advance for who you will promote to represent You in the Attorney General’s office of Arizona!

    Let us be good stewards of Your work Lord, never toiling with the wicked.

    Man makes his plans, but the Lord establishes his steps!

    God remembers the future, and makes all wrongs right! He returns unto us seven times over what the locust have stolen!

    May we never tire in doing good!

    For IT IS WRITTEN THAT, “GOD PROMOTES!”

    Britt Yvonne

  21. Mr. Stephen Kohut,

    Wow. Now I know how Tom feels!
    – Broken Record

    A good leader does not tout his credentials, just as a person of truth does not wave around the AZ Republic over, and over, and over, and over, again … like a broken record, squewing the truth! – Posing it to be The Gospel until it’s used against the perpetrator, and then he loses face and suddenly cries “Foul Play!” -There’s no truth to the liberal lying AZ Republic!

    Thomas contradicted himself to the entire crowd, and actions speak louder than words. I don’t have time to view your empty rhetoric. You really think any of us would waste our time putting any credence into liars?

    Again – AZ is above the National Average!

    I refuse to lower myself to your standards sharing my credentials nor degrees with you.

    You’ve missed the boat.
    Anyone can have a degree hanging on the wall, but few find WISDOM!

    The latter is much preferred!

    My answer to you sir is that I’m a discerner of the truth! You however, do great in “Cooking the Books!”

    I feel very sorry for all of you puppet, “Yes Men” bowing to Mr. sneaky, calculated, cold, and stoic Mr. Thomas.

    To the contrary, I have confidence in Arizona’s citizens that they too see through the facade and vindictive, untruthful character of Andrew Thomas; Arizona will decide!

    Remember, snakes in their pit always end up biting themselves!

    So done here!

    We’ve got the good fight to fight!

    That’s okay. Doubting Thomas finally came around in the end ……….

    ~ Eevie “Putting Arizonan’s First!”

  22. Stephen Kohut says

    Linking your name to Horne’s website is about one step above being an idiot son. If this is the best Horne can bring to bear I now understand why he was such a dud as Supr. of Public Instruction. He must be hiring his own graduates as you can’t do math. I can’t even begin to guess what degrees, if any, that you may hold. Political Science would be the best fit, drivel with substance.

    Now, let’s see if I can make it simple the math easy enough for even a PolySci type to get.

    2009 4th Grade reading

    National 220 score is higher than AZ’s 210.

    2009 8th Grade Reading

    National 262 score is higher than AZ 258.

    Can you get the concept ligher/lower, bigger/smaller or are you one of those nonfunctional “new math” types?

  23. Come on Stephen, you know it’s not fair to pick on the mentally challenged. Eevie is doing the best she(?)can.

  24. Stephen Kohut says

    Gotta agree with you Roger. Eevie is particularly challenged if He/She/It graduated from one of Tom’s schools with the typical AZ substandard education where you have to pass a 10th grade test to get a 12th grade diploma.

  25. Andrew Thomas is a devil, he is no way capable or intelligent enough to become our next Attorney General, also he is of the same character as the devil, he is a deceiver, also he is being investigated by the FBI, now ponder on that!!! For all the folks that are for his way of conducting business, they all better think really hard, because the FBI does not investigate someone if they are a good and repuatable person. God’s blessings and favor is upon Tom Horne– yeah Tom Horne Horne, you are the best of the best!!!! No devil will keep you Tom from obtaining God’s glory he has in store for you- thank you Jesus for Tom Horne and so looking forward to Tom being crowned with the Honor of our next Attorney General 2010—- Hats up to Tom Horne!!!!!!!!! Tom, you are the very best!!!! Kelly S. Miles

  26. And should we attribute, Statistics 101, Mr. Kohut, to your creation just as Al Gore invented the Internet?

    If you are a Statistics major, then I’m Donald Duck!

    ~ It gets better every day!
    Free comedy at our fingertips!

    B-R-O-K-E-N …. R-E-C-O-R-D!
    Crackle, crackle …

    Wisdom is foolishness to the foolish.

    Eevie Shaw ~ Reporting the Truth Because Arizona Deserves It!

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