Gabrielle Giffords is anti gun.

Cowboy.jpg     The NRA PVF has posted their election ratings. To check the scores on their web site, click here.

     There it is, Gabby has an F. That is not someone who wants a few more restrictions. She is hostile to the right to keep and bear arms. Randy Graf is a strong supporter of freedom and has earned an A rating.

Tuesday 10-3-06, 7:55 am


  1. Sonoran Truth Squad says

    The NRA refused to support Graf in the primary because the boys back in DC were playing politics with the seat… Now the district that is home to the NRA President will likely go to an “F” instead of an “A+” (Graf actually had an “A+” while in the legislature).

    If the NRA won’t stand up for an “A+” in the primary, then what good are they? This is why Gun Owners of America are growing as fast as they are…

  2. redcardphreek says

    Guns in bars.

    What a wonderful idea! ‘snark’

    I say this as someone who grew up hunting, still hunts, most of my friends are gun owners and ALL of them thought it was one of the stupidest ideas to come out of the legislature in a long time.

  3. Oro Valley Dad says

    You are not correct.

    There was a law to allow concealed carry in restaurants that happen to serve alcohol. Given the liberal’s tendency to release violent criminals back into society as soon as possible it is not a bad idea to be able to protect ones self.

  4. also, if some 6 foot 8 drunk dumbass picks a fight he’s going down. No questions asked…

  5. Sonoran Truth Squad says

    If you carry in the establishment, you are prohibited from drinking. It allows law-abiding citizens to be protected without having to leave their handgun in their car everytime they go into Chipotle at lunchtime to pick up a To Go order. Eph and Phreek don’t seem to get the constitutional arguments, but we need to stop penalizing the law-abiding folks for those who break our laws anyway. There are already guns in bars, carried by law-breakers who don’t care what the lawbooks say. And they are drinking at the same time. Too bad dumb and dumber don’t think that law-abiding folks deserve to protect themselves…

  6. Sonoran Truth Squad is a dumbass.

    I am totally for guns in bars – it is the great equilizer in case some drunk jock wants to start pounding on some small guy b/c he looked at his girlfriend wrong. It shound le LEGAL to lawfully conceal weapons in bars!!! Dumbass…

  7. Sonoran Truth Squad says

    Eph makes a reasoned, logical argument there… Well, okay, no he doesn’t… Law-abiding folks don’t go pulling their guns on other folks for looking at their girlfriends wrong, and its the law-abiding folks we’re worried about. The law-breakers are already breaking laws and carrying in bars, and pulling knives, etc. The folks this law would have helped are those who need protection from the law-breakers. If law-abiding people were running around shooting people for being rude or stupid, Eph wouldn’t have lived long enough to post. So he has already disproved his argument.


    Now I notice that Eph actually raises a situation where a drunk jock starts pounding on an innocent and much smaller person. Drunk jocks can actually kill smaller people, even if its in a drunken rage, or by accident when all he wanted to do was just break his nose… Eph actually indicates that he wants the smaller guy defenseless and is concerned that the smaller guy might be able to defend himself with a firearm if he feels his life is threatened… Hmm… Eph wants the innocent guy to get beaten up, no telling how badly and insists that the fight should not be “equalized”…

    Wow, Eph must hate it when he makes the other guys point for him… And he calls me a dumbass? Riiiiiiiiiight…

  8. redcardphreek says

    Guns in an alcohol fueled environment……bad idea, period.

    I am a gun owner, Giffords is a friggin’ gun owner. Somehow we want to ban guns by keeping them out of bars.

    I don’t care if you have a concealed carry permit. Conceal it everywhere, but a bar!

  9. Oro Valley Dad says

    This has really degenerated. There was never a real movement to allow guns in bars. You are making that up.

    There is no debate that guns and alcohol don’t mix. You would make more sense if you stuck to the truth.

  10. redcardphreek says

    So Graf did not sponser a bill to allow guns in bars?

  11. I own several guns. I am a hunter. I strongly support the 2nd amendment, and strongly support Giffords. She is not ‘anti-gun.’

    The NRA often does not represent the best interests of gun owners, but instead too often is an extreme lobby for gun sales and the weapons industry.

    Giffords is probably even a better shot than Graf.

  12. Gabrielle Giffords would vote to ban guns

    Gabrielle Giffords is no moderate. She is a liberal, anti-gunner who has stated that she would vote to reauthorize the Clinton Gun Ban, which expired in September 2004.

    This ill conceived piece of legislation banned guns based on purely cosmetic features. If a certain gun looks a certain way, then that gun would be banned. At the same time, many guns that were functionally identical to the banned guns remained legal.

    And what is the rationale for banning firearms based on mere cosmetic features? The answer lies in the politics of gun control. While it is currently politically impractical to ban all firearms, the foot in the door is to ban those firearms that look “evil”. The idea is to tell the public that only “evil” guns are being banned. Then, after the public has become used to the ban of evil guns, you come back for a second pass. You say that many guns have slipped through a “loophole” in the law and these guns that slipped through the loophole are functionally identical to the banned, evil guns and therefore they also should also be banned. Aren’t anti-gunners clever!

    So, when Gabrielle Giffords says that she would vote to reauthorize the Clinton Gun Ban, she is really admitting that she intends to support a broad attack on all firearms ownership nationwide. Yes, she intends to ban firearms. Yes, she is anti-gun. And yes, she is a liberal pretending to be a moderate.

    The Clinton Gun Ban made no sense and finally, even the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms has admitted that it had no effect of crime. Yet Gabrielle Giffords has stated that she would vote to reauthorize such a senseless law that serves no purpose other than to advance the cause of gun control.

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