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A Conservative’s guide to the Propositions (Pima County Edition.)

The following thoughts are just a guide. At the bottom are some links for more information. 

Prop 100 YES. Illegal aliens have already demonstrated that they do not respect international borders so if they are charged with a serious felony and get out on bail there is little to prevent them from crossing into Mexico and escaping justice. It is difficult for U.S. authorities to pursue them in Mexico and yet they may re-enter the U.S. at any time, possibly with criminal intent. Bail is currently denied for certain other reasons. This should be added to the list. 

Prop 101 YES. This would protect property owners from out of control increases in real estate taxes. Many seniors on fixed incomes and working families are increasingly burdened with ever higher taxes on their homes. 

Prop 102 YES. This common sense proposal would still allow people to receive compensatory damages from a lawsuit. That is the amount for actual loss and damages. What this does prevent is someone in the U.S. illegally from hitting the lawsuit jackpot and burdening or bankrupting Arizona businesses with huge settlements. 

Prop 103 Neutral. 

Prop 104 NO. Cities and Towns already have plenty of ways to raise and spend money. They do not need new ones. 

Prop 105 YES. This is reasonable approach to setting aside some of Arizona’s public land for conservation. 

Prop 106 NO, NO, NO. This radical proposal creates and un-elected board that would be free to mess with Arizona’s beautiful trust lands. They can take property without compensation and declare public lands off limits to people. Please vote NO. 

Prop 107 YES. Everyone is welcome to the full benefits of marriage. They simple have to find someone of the opposite sex that they would like to share their life with and marry them. That life choice is open to all adults in Arizona and there is nothing discriminatory about this proposal. If you want the benefits of marriage then get married. 

Prop 200 NO. It is very easy to vote these days. Call the county recorder and they will mail a ballot to you in a few days. Mail it back postage free and you are done. Adding a lottery would be a waste of money and resources. Vote if you want to not for some prize. 

Prop 201 NO. When these crazies are done cracking down on smoking they are next headed to ban fast food, SUV’s, guns, RV’s, quads, swimming pools, sports cars, beer, loud music, makeup, strong perfume, fur, large houses, big families, mega churches, and freedom in general. Say no to the tobacco haters because they are going to attack whatever little pleasure you have left as soon as they finish their current mission

Prop 202 NO. If this raised the minimum wage a little bit, say from $5.15 to $6.00 it might be OK but there is a lot more that it will do to destroy jobs and freedom in Arizona. This is not an increase in the minimum wage. It is 2 pages of bigger and more intrusive government. Job training and workforce skills are the key to higher wages not Prop 202. 

Prop 203 NO. More big government and higher taxes. When they have succeeded in raising taxes on cigarettes they will be back next time to raise taxes on whatever your hobby is. These people want to pick us off one group at a time. See the discussion on Prop 201 for more information. 

Prop 204 NO. This is supported by out of town environmental, animal rights whackos. Farmers do not treat their animals poorly because it is bad for business. When these people get this bill passed they will keep going until they have banned meat from out diets and we are all forced to eat soy burgers. See the discussion of Prop 201 and 203 for more detail. 

Prop 205 NO. If you are already so lazy that you cannot pick up the phone and request a ballot be sent to you then you are not motivated enough to deserve a vote. 

Prop 206 NO. The tobacco industry put this forward as an alternative to Prop 201. It was a good idea but still restricts basic freedoms. Most places are smoke free now anyway. We do not need a further crackdown on freedoms. Vote no on both Prop 201 and 206 and we will be fine. 

Prop 207 YES. This prevents local government from rezoning private property to a worthless value with out compensation. It also prevents them from taking your home to give to some private developer so a yuppie can live in an ugly condo where your kids grew up. 

Prop 300 YES. Very simple. You want benefits then come here legally. If you are in the U.S. illegally you should not be entitled to public benefits. 

Prop 301 NO. It is VERY difficult to disagree with Andrew Thomas but a person should get at least one chance at drug treatment before prison. I know meth is evil but incarceration is not always the answer. This has nothing to do with dealers, traffickers, or manufacturers of drugs. The law already provides stiff penalties for them. This initiative only applies to personal use among first or second time offenders. 

Prop 302 Neutral. The current salary prevents some people from serving because the pay is very low. 

Prop 400 (Pima County) YES.This is the real answer to low wages. Vote yes on 400 and NO on 202. 

For more information from Conservative sites see: 

The Arizona Conservative  Scroll to the bottom for the Propositions. 

The Arizona Federation of Taxpayers  They list the fiscal impact of the propositions. 

How Ridiculous is Prop 201?  Find out by going to this site.

Wagescam.com  The truth about Prop 202.

204 is Hogwash  The truth about Prop 204.

Arizona HOPE  The truth about Prop 207.

Emil Franzi weighs in  His comments on 203 and 205 are priceless but he misses the mark on 204 and 300.

 

Warning! Please strongly consider voting the OPPOSITE of whatever these people have to say. 

The Tucson Weekly  Scroll to the bottom for the Propositions. 

The Arizona Daily Star  This known leftist publication does not disappoint. They get one or two right but for the most part the paper serves as a mouthpiece for liberalism.

The Pima County Democratic Party  They make it so easy, just vote the opposite, except on 400. 

Monday 10-16-06, 10:15 pm


Comments

  1. Randall Holdridge says

    Gee! It’s so easy. Vote as this group says, or against the suggestions of an opposing group. Who needs a brain, an education, or individual judgement and personal values?

    This is not conservatism, it’s slavish serfdom.

    One need not make nuanced considerations about the boys and girls in the family, and what might happen to them.

    One need not take the least interest in the advancement of human knowledge in the arts and sciences.

    One need not weigh how a very complex range of propositions — covering health, eucation, taxes, the environment, state land ownership and its disposition, the responsibilities of the State vs. the interests of individuals in zoning, personal election as to behavior, etc., etc.

    Oh no, you’re not supposed to think about these things for yourself, as they affect you. Why bother with democracy?

    Line up, raise your arms, click your heels, and vote the party line.

    What could be more decent? What could be more moral?

  2. Oro Valley Dad says

    Randall thanks for your usual criticism with no positive suggestions. Reasons were given for each position so that the readers could judge if they agreed or disagreed. It was also listed as a guide not as cannon law.

    Do you criticize the Democratic Party and the Tucson Weekly for essentially doing the same thing?

  3. “Prop 201 NO. When these crazies are done cracking down on smoking they are next headed to ban fast food, SUV’s, guns, RV’s, quads, swimming pools, sports cars, beer, loud music, makeup, strong perfume, fur, large houses, big families, mega churches, and freedom in general. Say no to the tobacco haters because they are going to attack whatever little pleasure you have left as soon as they finish their current mission.”

    Shouldn’t this argument also be applied to Prop 107 as well. Once we’re done taking rights away from gays and people in committed relationships who don’t want to be married, we can move on to take them away from minorities, non-Christians and females right?

  4. The Bible done not say anything about smokers….sorry

  5. “Warning! Please strongly consider voting the OPPOSITE of whatever these people have to say.

    The Tucson Weekly Scroll to the bottom for the Propositions.”

    That’s the most hallarious thing I’ve read in 10 years…oh and I absolutely will !!!!

  6. Oro Valley Dad says

    John, the problem with your argument about prop 107 is that it is completely open to any two adults. There used to be some restrictions and required tests but now marriage is pretty wide open. You do need to select someone of the opposite sex because that is what marriage is. After that anyone can enjoy the full benefits.

    I believe that 107 requires public entities not provide marriage type benefits but private employers are free to provide all the domestic partner frills they want. It is perfectly reasonable to have a vote about what benefits the public sector will and will not provide. After all it is the public sector so who better to decide than the public. Please explain where it is written that gays and people shacking up have a right to partner benefits from public entities.

  7. kralmajales says

    Dress it up all you want folks but Prop 107 is as bigoted and hateful as it gets. If marriage is to be a tradition and an religious choice then leave it at that. Not all churches or religious traditions are against same sex marriage. In fact, some Christian churches marry same sex couples. If your church wants to discriminate then that is fine. Have the debate inside the walls of your church!!!!

    However, when it comes to government sanctioning what is marriage and what is not, then that falls into the boundaries of the state sanctioning (and REWARDING) the religious views of some and not those of others.

    This proposition and anyone who supports it just sickens me. There is no debate to this. All you all have is that it is tradition and you offer NO…and I mean NO…reasons other than Biblical jibberish to say why it is a problem.

    Read your bibles all you want…enjoy your churches…but leave your boorish biblical interpretations out of my government.

  8. Oro Valley Dad says

    It’s not just religion but social policy. The voters have a right to weigh in on weather the state should encourage and fund the formation of families or the advancement of homosexual lifestyle.

  9. Sophie Zankman says

    I’m alittle nervous that at any time my home could be taken away & for what…economic development… Let’s see which politician would give their home up for this. Vote yes on Proposition 207. Check out this site: hopeforarizona.com.

  10. Oro Valley Dad says

    Sophie,

    Thanks for checking in. There is a hyperlink to the site that you mentioned toward the end of the post.

  11. kralmajales says

    “It’s not just religion but social policy. The voters have a right to weigh in on weather the state should encourage and fund the formation of families or the advancement of homosexual lifestyle.”

    Are you are republican????? Did I just read that above????

    THE STATE…THE GOVERNMENT…should ENCOURAGE and FUND the formation of families???? hahahahahaha

    First of all, where do you get your ideas of what a family is? From this statement, it is clearly the two parent nuclear family that now should be ENCOURAGED to FUND children? Sounds like welfare to me.

    Why should government be in the business of encouraging and funding familly?

    Next…the crack about advancing homosexual lifestyles. Fine if you don’t agree with it, but practice a little tolerance. Leave them alone. They aren’t invading your marriage and family…and if someone in your family chose that lifestyle then so be it. I doubt that it would be ENCOURAGED by any government program.

    The voters as you say have encouraged and given government benefits (you tax and spenders!) to those who marry and not to those who don’t. But we discriminate against same sex couples who do make up the fabric of our communities, who do it no harm, and we do it ONLY and I mean ONLY under the guise of religion and words like tradition.

    It is no less bigoted.

  12. Oro Valley Dad says

    “Where do you get your ideas of what a family is?” The traditions and history of western civilization.

    “Why should the government be in the business of encouraging and funding family?” That is a good question. The answer is simple, because the voters want it to (or they don’t.)

    There is no discrimination when marriage is available to all adults. By definition marriage is not between two people of the same sex.

    “Leave them alone.” I do leave them alone.

  13. Attn: Proposition 107 Haters

    Prop 107 does not hurt our gay and lesbian friends in any way. It does not infringe on their rights. It does not force any employers, government or private, to take away health insurance benefits.

    Or maybe you can give an example of how the Arizona government treats a gay individual differently from a straight one. If you can, then I’m going to have to rewrite this article: http://www.azmarriageamendment.com/somanyfallacies.html

  14. Giancarlo DiMarco says

    I am totally for Prop. 207!! It’s outrageous how far politicians and their cronies have gone in their efforts to disenfranchise homeowners when they see a more lucrative use for their property. Join me in voting yes on Proposition 207! Check this out: HopeForArizona.com

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