Evangelicals Reshaping Policy on Immigration Reform

Do any of my Evangelical brothers and sisters disagree with this?

Our national immigration laws have created a moral, economic and political crisis in America. Initiatives to remedy this crisis have led to polarization and name calling in which opponents have misrepresented each other’s positions as open borders and amnesty versus deportations of millions. This false choice has led to an unacceptable political stalemate at the federal level at a tragic human cost. – Evangelical Immigration Table

Evangelical Statement of Principles for Immigration Reform

Our national immigration laws have created a moral, economic and political crisis in America. Initiatives to remedy this crisis have led to polarization and name calling in which opponents have misrepresented each other’s positions as open borders and amnesty versus deportations of millions. This false choice has led to an unacceptable political stalemate at the federal level at a tragic human cost.

As evangelical Christian leaders, we call for a bipartisan solution on immigration that:

  • Respects the God-given dignity of every person
  • Protects the unity of the immediate family
  • Respects the rule of law
  • Guarantees secure national borders
  • Ensures fairness to taxpayers
  • Establishes a path toward legal status and/or citizenship for those who qualify and who wish to become permanent residents

We urge our nation’s leaders to work together with the American people to pass immigration reform that embodies these key principles and that will make our nation proud.


Comments

  1. The religious approach of pardoning and welcoming criminals is the same as the guilt-ridden lunatic left – likened to a room full of people applauding a speech on television – it is for self-promotion and self-gratification. The pitfall of humanitarism is the ability to envision the future is negated, and wrapped around the ‘glory’ of the moment. Where are all of these hollier-than-thou soul savers when our children, our brothers, sisters, mothers, and fathers are killed by the pitiful wretches barnstorming into America? The numbskulls perpetrating the ‘humanitarian’ approach have no such compassion for their fellow citizens whose lives have been snuffed out by drunken or murderous invaders, instead they promote the agenda of “weeding out” the bad element of 20 million criminals – even if it takes 50 years, thousands of American lives, and billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars. And while these tax-exempt demigods trumpet their message of “dignity”, they ignore the price tag and social burden on every American who struggles to financially survive the ever growing malignant socialist Federal government. If these thumpers want to guarantee their condo in the hereafter, they should take their humanitarian agendas directly to the source outside the U.S. – not encourage the importation of life-long poverty and cultural metamorphisis of America.

    • Thank you “zoo” for your great comment and apparently listening to more the the video than I could take!

      One of the biggest problems with the whole situation is that people regard immigration & border security as one issue. They need to be addressed as TWO separate but important issues which need to be resolved independently.

      The statement that “all politics is local” has never been more true. Get back to basics. Energize the base. Register voters – Try this link- it’s fun! http://www.wallbuilders.com/vote/ FInd out if you, your neighbors, your relatives are actually registered to vote! You will be amazed and who is not. We have got to win this round or the Republic of the United States of America will be toast!!!

    • The US is not being bankrupted by illegal immigrants. It’s being bankrupted by its own citizens who believe they can have wealth without work. The illegals actually work and don’t ask for handouts or welfare. It’s the white single mother down the street whose baby daddy is absent from her life and the kids life who are more of a threat to the solvency of our nation …. In fact, an influx of hard working, young hispanics would likely help us stave off financial disaster.

      • R U nuts, the illegals have these illigitimate kids who are then being allowed to collect food stamps and AFDC. You are a fool if you believe that.

        • Seems to me that your problem is with the food stamps and the AFDC program. How about we abolish them first and then come back to see what problem is with illegal immigrants.

        • Seems to me that your problem is with the food stamps and the AFDC program. How about we abolish them first and then come back to see what problem is with illegal immigrants.

  2. Makes u quit church. I am sick and tired of these religious leaders and their feel sorry for all these 3rd world countries. The rule of law should be accepted by these people instead of wanting to fill their coffers.

    • If compassion and common sense makes you want to quit church, maybe you should question what ever drew you to attend church in the first place …

  3. Tyler Montague says

    This Mormon applauds the efforts of these evangelicals to raise important moral issues and crack through the anger and false choices presented by the extremists in the debate.

    The extremists attempt to amp up the criminality of illegal immigration, and project the evil actions of a few on the many, in an attempt to dehumanize these people in order to justify their extremism. This is the same shameful behavior exhibited by anti-gun activists every time a crime is committed with a gun–we see the inevitable rush to draw inferences that the action of a criminal applies to everyone else who owns a gun. Same thing with illegal immigration.

    I’m proud of my position, and think the Republican party needs to consider some of the angles presented by these men in this video, or we’ll alienate Latinos, many of whom are social conservatives that belong in our party.

    (By the way, if you want to rip me for this comment, I’ll only respect those who do so with their real name.)

    • Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, Is there no end to your drivel??? BTW. How did you like the LD25 results?? Must gall you that an Hispanic woman beat your Mormon GOP pretender for chairman.

    • Tyler,

      Yes we know that you are for perpetual amnesty, open borders and more and more and more “guest workers.”

      You chose to refuse to deal with facts or principles, instead labeling anyone who supports enforcing existing laws as “extremists.”

      • Tyler Montague says

        Carl, It is disappointing to see you and others try to cram everyone and every position in the debate into a false binary world, where you either favor the most strict Pearce-like solution, or are just a complete open-border anarchist.

        We probably agree on 80% of the solution. I agree verbatim with the ideas championed by CA Bill Montgomery. Watch and listen: does this sound like open borders, etc.?
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnV1US8FMvY

        • Tyler,

          I would NEVER accuse YOU of being an anarchist.

          I do point out that you oppose enforcement of existing laws on the basis of a supposed need to pander to certain ethnic groups.

          So, lets look at the truth:

          First, I oppose amnesty, and you support it.

          Second, I believe that before we even consider any form of amnesty, we first secure the border. You on the other hand want amnesty now, and that you might consider, possibly doing something (maybe) about border security some time in the far distant future. The truth is that you simply want amnesty now and are merely lying about being willing to consider border security.

          Third, once upon a time I was willing to support limited “guest worker” programs, but people like you have suceeded in convincing me that we need to end those plans.

          So, in conclusion, we are in 100% disagreement on illegal entrants.

  4. Nations are like men, dust. The kingdom of God is forever.

    Those who have pledged their lives to serve God and his children understand that when we demonize and degrade any subset of human beings, we demonize and degrade all of us.

    We need to respect rule of law and encourage that respect by those south of us. However, we should not punish the children for the sins of the fathers. These children are Americans in most senses of the word – born here, speak our language, love this country, are willing to serve her. While their parents may have entered this country less honorably, if their children can be productive citizens, we don’t have to make them Americans, but we can let them stay and contribute.

    • If you are so religious and we are not what about the rule of law? RTender unto Caesar the things that are Caesars and render unto God the things that are God’s. Oh gee u forgot.

  5. “…or we’ll alienate Latinos, many of whom are social conservatives that belong in our party…”

    Tell me, if they ARE social conservatives, then how does enforcing our immigration laws alienate them? Would that be because they are conservatives except when it comes to race? Isn’t that the “racism” that the profitting pukes are always vomiting out to protect their border jumping profits?

    All of you corporate mungers want it both ways: if you enforce the laws, you are a racist who is upsetting the racists. This foolishness sure is catchy when backed with the B of A theme music.

    • The problem with enforcement is that it’s very hard to do *inside the u.s.* without racial profiling (which is totally unfair to the *legal* hispanics who are here, and there are tens of millions of them) or without turning us into a spy/police state or regulatory state.

      The more we enforce immigration law, the more illegal immigrants we have living in the U.S. because the migration patterns lose their circularity and also b/c people bring their families. Loosing immigration restrictions and allowing for guest worker permits would not only decrease illegal immigration (de facto) but would decrease the number of hispanic immigrants who permanently live here.

  6. Also, from a purely partisan point of view, hispanics will only increase social conservatism in the U.S. and should naturally gravitate to the Republican platform over time. If you are an abortion supporter, increasing the number of hispanics in the U.S.A. should frighten you. They are pretty strongly pro-life, more so than white America is ….

  7. Being for the rule of law *and* realizing that our immigration system is broken *and* being compassionate toward refugees fleeing death *and* forgiving children the sins of their parents are NOT mutually exclusive. Many evangelicals find it consistent with their Christianity to manage all four.

  8. Yes while they work to fill their coffers at the expense of our culture and our way of life. If these illegals are having such a hard time in their Country tell them to go back and change things like we did.But no they vote for any socialist that tells them we will give you free stuff. So what is happening here they come here to get free stuff, take them off the welfare rolls see how long they stay with their kids.

    • If you are smart enough to recognize that Mexico has problems and you are willing to move to a country where you can work hard and take care of your children why should anybody want to dump them back in Mexico. I was under the impression that SB 1070 eliminated illegal aliens being on welfare… did I miss something?
      If you don’t like government welfare why don’t you get it eliminated?

      • It keeps the adults off welfare when they are here illegally, but the rash of illigitimate kids they are having to get them Citizenship still allows them to collect welfare, so maybe you not as smart as you seem to think you are. Why do you think we are having so damn many illigitimate mexican births. Some people have their heads in the clouds or up theri rears. I was Catholic but I am damn tired of their so called compasssion for th illegals at the expense of American Citizens.

  9. I think we need to put things into perspective. Illegals immigrants commit one crime that is a federal misdemeanor — that of being in the country illegaly. They may commit other crimes, including identity theft — if they steal someone’s social security number, for example, but you’d have to look at them on a case by case basis. The one crime that they do commit is the equivalent of a state level moving violation. I think most of us have done worse (I’ve even run red lights!!!). So I am kind of sick of the people on this board who equate being here illegally with a serious felony. It isn’t.

    The people we should be punishing are those who know better — the business owners who hire them.

    • Let’s start case by case will all working illegal aliens. An inspection of tax returns would reveal 99% are filed under an FTIN with non-matching stolen Social Security numbers on the attached W2s. So your comparison of hopscotching an international boundry with a traffic ticket is pre-empted by the crime of identity theft, and the act of working itself, which is also a crime. Maybe they should all just be sent to trafficking school.

      • As Americans, we believe in “Innocent until proven guilty”. So I can’t really say that anybody commits identity theft until it is proven. Using a made up social security number is not identity theft. To prove identity theft, you have to prove that the person stole the number from someone else, and that he knew that he/she was stealing someone else’s number. I believe that most illegals pluck numbers out of thin air, and aren’t stealing someone’s number. Again, in this country, you have to prove it.

        Working without documentation is not a crime. If it is, please send me a reference to the statue that makes it a crime.

        As far as hopscotching international boundaries, and overstaying visas, I’ve done it… I’ve been illegal at one time or another, in Thailand, Malaysia, Costa Rica, Panama, and Nicaragua…. I eventually either left, or became legal. I don’t think it’s that big of a deal.

        I am not defending illegal aliens, but we need to remember that the punishment should fit the crime. And the crime has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. According to the constitution.

        • To begin with, the instructions issued with FTINs (Federal Taxpayer I.D. Number) includes the following:

          “It does not change your immigration status or make you eligible to work in the United States”.

          If you are ineligible to work in the U.S., and you do, that is not a crime? Social Security numbers used to gain employment are highly unlikely to be fabricated, as that would trigger a notice to the employer from the SSA. That makes false use of these numbers I.D. theft, the user knew he/she was using someone else’s number.

          When you were an “illegal alien” in various countries, how many times did you:

          1. Apply for government benefits (medical care, nutrition assistance, child birth, etc)?
          2. Register to vote in a given country’s elections?
          3. Enroll your children in their schools at absolutely no cost to you?
          4. March in their streets and demand an end to their laws, amnesty, and citizenship
          with full benefits for you and your relatives you want to bring in?

          The punishment for entering American illegally easily fits the crime: your arrested and deported.

  10. The punishment should be deportation, period.

  11. Just think how different things would be if the American Indians had an effective immigration policy.

    • wherewasi says

      Awesome!

      That’s like calling the police because someone broke into your house and took all of your stolen property.

  12. There is no arguing with people who have no pride in their culture, no pride on their heritage, no pride in their Country and no pride in themselves. Their parents brought them up to belive in absolutly nothing, and respect nothing including themselves.

  13. Where did Zoo’s racist comment go? The one where he told me to leave America on the “burro I rode in on”? Did he remove it or did the moderator?

    I wish that it would have been left up so that everyone could see Zoo’s racism in all its naked splendor.

    • So do you really believe you and the other leftest pro-invasion filth that drop in here accomplish anything by throwing around the 10 cent term “racist”. The whole world knows the open-borders rabble haven’t a single leg to stand on, so they resort to child-like tantrums. Enjoy yourself, toilet film.

  14. lets clear up this blacks and monkey thing some of ya enjoy…white folk are as hairy as a monkey hair on your back on your stomach beards to the floor…shave the hair off a dog,cat,goat,oh yes a monkey and see what color the skin is…who loves climbing on shit walls,mountains hey why you climb that mountain duh duh ahh it was there…hey monkey why you climb that tree duh duh ahh it was there so who’s closer to monkeys well i’ll be a monkeys uncle ha ha you damn right! huh love that rare meat blood dripping like a facett…God gave me black skin with built in sunsrceen the sun is life giving BUT not for you you get burned skin cancer tears your pale sick skin up you start peeling skin like a snake…dracula even new to get his ass out the sun copper tone makes billions a yr…so lets stop the black monkey shit tell ya what look at every GOP white boy on tv wheres their LIPS white boys have no lips and then look at a monkey flat no lips…black,asian,indian men don’t grow body hair like monkeys so you crackers try something else thats old GO GO GO Obama Biden

  15. Ghost of Friedman says

    “The punishment should be deportation, period.”

    A simple (and stupid) solution from a simple (and stupid) mind.

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