A m e r i c a n P o s t – G a z e t t e
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A m e r i c a n P o s t – G a z e t t e
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Friday, October 28, 2011
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The Bar overreached. They thought this was a sure thing and now they look like fools. This should provide momentum in the legislature to pass legislation that will move the Bar’s disciplinary wing out from under the Bar and Supreme Court over to the Executive Branch, where it will be held accountable to the people through election of the Governor.
Did anyone watch Thomas’s testimony earlier this week? He ran circles around the Bar counsel. Even the judge finally told Bar counsel to back off. Unfortunately I am afraid this is a kangaroo court, since what judge will dare to rule against the State Bar, AND rule that investigations of his fellow judges were valid? It has been satisfying watching some of this trial online, as the whole story comes out. The stupidvisors are more sleazy and corrupt than anyone ever thought. The FBI showed up for their testimony and their hatchetman David Smith but not for the testimony of anyone else including Thomas. Looked pretty clear to me that the FBI is investigating them, but don’t expect the Arizona Republic to report that.
Time to vote every single one of the Supervisors out of office, if they’re not convicted first! I am so sick and tired of hearing about them waste our money on expensive projects like the court tower that we can’t afford, waste our money shielding themselves from prosecution, and going after honorable men like Andrew Thomas. The Tea Parties have lined up candidates to run against every single one of them and have made it their #1 election priority locally. We need to support these efforts and make sure it happens, even in a gerrymandered district like Democrat Mary Rose Wilcox’s. After that, the Tea Parties are turning their focus on the Arizona Republic. Time to shut that Democrat Party mouthpiece down. It is a disgrace to our community. End your subscriptions people. The Examiner is spreading across the country and intends to supplant and replace local left wing newspapers. Let’s start reading and sharing articles from the Examiner and quit giving the Republic any visibility.
The fact that this is getting some national attention doesn’t bode well for the State Bar Association. This looks a lot like the political witchhunt going on in Kansas after former Attorney General Phil Kline who attempted to take on powerful Planned Parenthood. http://www.worldmag.com/webextra/18756 This kind of thing is getting to be more common sadly. If you can’t beat the charges, get the Bar/ethics committee controlled by liberals to go after the prosecutor. This will likely be the start of a wake up call around the country now to rein in renegade Bar associations.
Guilty, Guilty,Guilty!
Some observations:
1) the basic argument found in the lead is that because Obama’s federal government suck, the Republican controlled Arizona state government sucks as well, therefore these folks are innocent. This is a complete non-sequitor.
2) a subsequent argument is that because a newspaperman doesn’t think evidence will come from a trial, no trial should be held, no matter what the legal experts think. The truth is that we have trials to reveal, or not, evidence. We don’t go out to the newspaper and ask “tell us what to do.” We let them report on what we do. The tail should never wag the dog.
3) The presentation of the case against these three is about as prejudiced and biased as one could imagine, but even within it there exists probable cause to move forward. After all, the newspaper guy thinks they abused their power (he just isn’t sure it can be proven) so we must go forward, under the logic of point #2.
Finally, some observations on the comments.
1) To a lay person, it may appear that Thomas ran circles around the prosecutor, but in the eyes of any lawyer, Thomas got his head handed to him. Here’s why.
In law school you learn the basic legal syllogism: Issue, Rule, Application, Conclusion. (IRAC)
Issue = the facts
Rule = the law, or in a criminal case, the elements of a crime.
Application = mesh the facts, with the law and the cased that surround both.
Conclusion = state the result of your analysis where every aspect of your decision is based in the previous work.
What the prosecutor masterfully did was demonstrate that Thomas, a brilliant lawyer, could not support his case using even a first-year law student’s analysis. Repeatedly the prosecutor asked: what events formed the basis of the crime? What rule of law was violated? How do the events match the elements the crimes charged?
And to each and every querry Thomas weakly stated, “you have to look at everything.” To the trained mind, that is tantamount to saying “I got nothing, but I’m not going to admit it.”
The only question that remains is whether these three violated there dutied due to ethical breaches or intellectual ones. Did their hate for their political adversaries cloud their judgement to such a degree they didn’t know they were doing wrong, or did they deliberately do wrong?
At the end of the day, the only way Thomas escapes is for the triers of fact to declare that Thomas was incompetant, not malicious. With one he gets to retain his license (I suspect he will), but with both he’s been laid bare as someone who can not be trusted with power.
Looooong article, but it supports our constant position that the left uses tricks, lies, subterfuge and skulduggery to advance its goals. Thomas and associates did their job as they should have, but are reamed for it, just as Border Patrol agents are imprisoned for upholding the law, while the true criminals are released to perpetrate more crime against innocent Americans. Believe me, this will come to an end, and there should and will be hell to pay.
Perhaps the reason this is happening is that the lawyers don’t want him running for AG again. He has to be an attorney to do that. So when he forms his exploratory committee he’ll be running for….governor!