Over the course of the last few months, Arizona’s U.S. Senate race has really started to heat up on several fronts; the most heated are of course the interactions between the incumbent Senator, John McCain and the front running Republican challenger and Tea Party supported candidate, JD Hayworth. However, a not so publicized debate is going on between the local Arizona Tea Parties and the other Republican challenger and so called “tea party candidate” Jim Deakin.
Ever since February, when JD Hayworth received his first tea party endorsement from the Tea Party supporting political action committee, LibertyFirst PAC, Jim Deakin and his campaign have been working very hard to legitimize their tea party connection. The effort has yielded them very little, if any at all, support from the local Arizona tea parties. At the time of LibertyFirst PAC’s endorsement many of the local tea parties were not endorsing candidates; most weren’t legally able to due to IRS tax restrictions. Since March however, the tea parties have been working very closely with one another and working hand in hand with groups like the Patriot Caucus, Tea Party Patriots and the Arizona Tea Party Network to establish several alliances and coalitions for the sole purpose of endorsements, some specifically for showing support for Hayworth. In fact on August 2nd, a coalition of more than 16 Arizona state-wide, Tea Party and like-minded Conservative groups came together to announce they were all endorsing JD Hayworth to be the next United States Senator from Arizona.
Today those same 16 groups, including many of the local Arizona tea parties are now under attack from Jim Deakin, the so-called “tea party candidate”. Deakin is clearly not receiving the tea parties support and his campaign staff are now challenging the legal legitimacy of the groups via forum posts and Facebook notes like this one where he states, “Freedom loving Arizonans beware and be wary of Fake TEA Party Organizations designed to pray on your patriotism.” Aside from his obvious misuse of the word “pray”, he goes on to say that because the tea parties are endorsing Hayworth that this proves that they are simply GOP front groups, in particular the Patriot Caucus, and that now because they are endorsing Hayworth that they are also endorsing governmental policies on earmarks, cap and trade, amnesty, tax increases and every other thing that is against what the tea party stands for. Oddly enough, Mr. Deakin didn’t feel the same way about these groups a few months ago, which was right before right before they courted and endorsed Hayworth.
What Mr. Deakin and his campaign staff fail to realize is that, some of these groups were started by some of the original tea party organizers from around the nation and the state of Arizona; some of which are not even registered Republicans. The problem with Deakin’s complaints against “fake tea parties” not supporting him and publicly displaying his “sour grapes” attitude to the world is that the liberal media, and the John McCain media machine, will have a field day twisting and turning the truth about the tea parties to their advantage. Mr. Deakin hopes that his public outcries against the tea party movement will damage the various groups reputations; therefore damaging Hayworth’s reputation at the same time since he is their chosen tea party candidate. All the while, Mr. Deakin continues to slap the movement in the face as he condescendingly calls himself “the tea party candidate”, but in reality, he is not known for his tea party support…he is know in Arizona as “the spoiler candidate”.
Make no mistake about it, JD Hayworth is the Arizona tea parties chosen candidate for U.S. Senate. A majority of the local tea parties have went out of their way on numerous occasions to show their unwavering support for Hayworth, and Hayworth has returned the favor by going out of his way to support the tea parties. The relationship between the two is a bond between a politician and the people; just like our founding fathers would have wanted.
Video Description: JD Hayworth giving a very enthusiastic speech at the United Border Coalition Tea Party Rally held on Sunday, August 15th at the Arizona/Mexico border.
Source: http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-phoenix/who-is-the-real-arizona-tea-party-senate-candidate
McDeakin Donuts is a legend in his own mind.
Here’s mega rich Huckster John McCain saying he’s not going to change his liberal positions on amnesty and the environmental fraud to win the election against JD.
http://tinyurl.com/25y7va2
At least he’s true to his destructive “convictions.”
Note in the video below, the life of the rich and famous as they fiddle while Arizona burns.
When you’re mega rich and never have to worry about an illegal alien stealing your job or breaking the back of the finances of your state, because it doesn’t affect you, life is good. Really good!
It’s easy to give the store away because you’re living on the upper-tiers with the Aristocracy.
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely…
Enjoy the ride McCain. Enjoy the friggen’ ride while it lasts.
With this email, JD Hayworth just lost my support and I’m voting for Deakin.
If this is the kind of nastiness one can expect from JD Hayworth I’ll have no part of it.
Just to let you know, I have been a 100% convinced JD donor, promoter, and campaigner with my friends and family until today, August 17th.
Bye, bye, JD.
I’m now going to vote for Deakin out of spite for your campaign tactics.
Not a chance in h*ll I’d vote for McCain.
Erratum on above:
“with this email” -> change to “With this post to Sonoran,”
Don’t even bother with “A vote for Deakin is a vote for McCain”.
That’s a loser’s statement because one cannot garner enough votes on one’s own.
Therefore, if the above is true, JD is going to lose anyway.
Keith,
For months I and others have asked until we were blue in the face for the list of the sixteen 527 PACs doing the endorsements in the name of a Tea Party, who controls those PACs and if ANY of the “Tea Parties” run their members organization under the 527 so that the members have direct control of the endorsement. There has been complete dead air from any of those involved with the “endorsements”. Could it be that many of those “endorsements” were done in violation of FEC and IRS regulation, that the “Tea Party” doing the endorsement is not set up legally to do it, that the bulk of the “endorsements” are shams and that each of the few PACs that do exist are controlled by a handful of individuals?
Your turn Keith. Either provide the backup or stop claiming the “endorsements” for JD.
Kohut, why would you or anyone else in the Deakin camp question these groups legitimacy if you haven’t researched the names yourself? Sour grapes, that’s why. You know your full of crap and are just trying to start drama for JD.
By the
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By the way…please list what REAL tea party groups are endorsing Deakin since he claims he is the tea party candidate.
Also, from what I understand many of these groups that aren’t PACs themselves have an association with one or two established PACs, and are able to share the endorsement as a coalition. So you’re probably not going to find 16 different 527′s. That’s how I understood it anyhow.
Oberserve,
This morning, Jimmie Lee Deakin, Jr. admitted at the Prescott Chamber of Commerce breakfast that he is the official protest candidate.
Congratulations Oberserve, you just got John McCain reelected!
I voted for Hayworth, but there are a few accusations I wish he would defend more vigorously. By contrast, the Tea Party tirade by Deakin is much ado about nothing. A candidate like him who is completely new to the political arena and has mounds of negative publicity already probably should make himself heard on a more substantial point than the exact number of tea partiers that endorse JD Hayworth. A more controversial endorsement for Deakin would have been the AZ Right to Life endorsement of John McCain where supporters and former staff jumped shipped in protest. Why hasn’t Deakin addressed any picayune matters related to John McCain?
I think it is extremely hypocritical that the Deakin supporters are crying foul over the right of TEA Party leaders to engage in political expression!
These same Deakin people who claim to be FOR FREEDOM and FREE SPEECH and AGAINST FEDERAL INTRUSION are now acting like the gestapo when it comes to exercising free speech!
Jimmie Lee Deakin, Jr. who likes to start every speech off with his “Freedom!” cry, is now trying to quash the voice of the TEA Party movement here in Arizona!
Such hypocrisy from the campaign who claims to be the voice of freedom – now trying to stop the voices of others!!!
All Tea Parties are, for the most part, a loosely affiliated group of individuals, each with their own outlooks and political agendas. This, in itself, makes these organizations incapable of forming any coherent political action.
Candidates found this out for themselves. When the campaign season first started, all of the candidates attempted to align themselves with one group or another. However, when the candidates found out how dysfunctional and disorganized these groups where, ie, incapable of delivering any sort of voting bloc, they quickly abandoned them.
As to the other concern, there is no listing on any State or Federal website of the 16 organizations forming or operating under a 527.
As to this post, is it simply another clueless attempt by the Hayworth camp to throw dispersions at another candidate, no matter how weak, ineffectual, or unlikely that candidate is to win a Primary, much less a General Election.
I’m sure that Filthy Hippie and the JD camp, after their landslide loss, will be quick to blame both Deakin and McCain for the loss.
Unfortunately, Hayworth has no one to blame but himself. From the outset, his poorly run, poorly managed campaign oozed negativity and lies. His TV and radio ads are, to say the least, a lampoon of a WWF commercial.
So, after putting up with all of this, I will be overjoyed to return to this blog after Hayworth, Thomas and Schweikert lose with a simple “I told you so”.
How could Deakin afford to travel to Prescott when his home is in foreclosure?
He has a strange set of priorities.
ROTFLMAO
AT HAYWORTH AND CREW.
Boys and girls, pack your bags, it’s over done, look for jobs.
JPD
Eric Odom on Tea Party Nation Organizers:
http://phoenixteaparty.ning.com/profiles/blogs/eric-odom-on-tea-party-nation
DSW I’m on it guy – been hounding Tax Day Tea Party/Liberty First PAC for months.
Question: Tax Day Tea Party/Liberty First PAC is that one endorsement or two? Too funny.
Patriot Caucus – Keith Sipmann GOP to the core. How come he didn’t endorse ‘Patriot Caucus’ that is?
How many of the Tea Party Endorsements Hayworth and you list are actually “Tea Person Endorsements” just tell us rather than cry about it.
This is Deakin Donuts’ first and last stand.
Time for him to put away the junk calories and brush the glazed Deakin Donut crumbs from his face.
He hasn’t made one noble gesture yet in favor of the greater good over his own egoistic pursuits.
Just more junk food political paranoia and further affronts to traditional Tea Party conservatives, as he hurls his accusations and misses the forest for the trees.
This is Deakin Donuts’ finest hour and he has yet to even shine one ray of enlightenment on a darkening horizon quickly encroaching.
Soon the votes will be cast in favor of Hayworth.
Soon the 500 ft. John McCain Amnesty Pinata will be unfurled.
Soon we shall dance, sing, drink, eat and frolic in joy and merriment as we ceremoniously pound the 500 ft. John McCain Amnesty Pinata into a ignominious pulp of historical trash heap, to get at the tasty treats inside, as a metaphor for the reversal of the illegal alien onslaught through bon vivant and joie de vivre writ large!
Fiat lux!
Thus spake Michael Holliday…
Tin foil, Michael….you’re gonna need a lot of it to keep all your crazy in.
AZ CD3 Voter,
We have been. For the most part the 527s don’t exist. The groups do not appear to have the legal right to endorse. Why do you think there is dead silence by those groups? I suggest you refer to the throne room scene in “The Wizard of Oz” as the Wizard shouts “Ignore the man behind the curtain.” If the endorsements are real that those making the “endorsements” are in the position to prove it. The dead silence speaks volumes.
DSW,
“I think it is extremely hypocritical that the Deakin supporters are crying foul over the right of TEA Party leaders to engage in political expression!”
Is this an admission that the “endorsements” by the “Tea Parties” are indeed nothing more than those of a handful of people with or without PACs and not endorsements of 16 member organizations running under 527 PACs?
As a conservative independent I’ve had an uneasy foot in two camps for quite some time but had little difficulty reconciling my loyalties to parts of one or the other group, but given the Arizona race I have been rethinking Libertarian loyalties I once had. I’ve met Deakin personally, and actually really liked the guy, albeit his wife was not there and by all accounts is often the instigator of many unpleasant interactions. It wasn’t until JD Hayworth announced his candidacy that Deakin showed his colors, lost his composure and began to behave like a jealous child, tea party endorsements being the coveted kick-ball no longer in his possession.
If his tantrums hadn’t failed to drive away serious consideration by any and all non-Libertarian voters, any remaining conservative independents that were yet undecided were promptly alienated by a note posted by Deakin today. This note warned Arizonans of fake Tea Party groups that would prey, er I mean “pray” on their patriotism. In it, he listed two major groups, and numerous sub-groups underneath them. In all, at least 30 different grass-roots organizations were named (it was hard to count due to his lack of commas). I have little experience in politics, but apparently it is yet more than Deakin. I would have asked myself if this would alienate me from a rather large group of people that belong to the tea party, a group I am desperately trying to identify myself as a loyal servant to. How many people belong to these thirty (ish) groups accused of faking tea party values? Thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, more? That’s a lot of people to piss on. And most of them are just like me: political nobodies concerned about the country our children are to inherit. Most of them, like me, have watched very closely the inception and growth of their local and state Tea Party groups, and personally know that they are certainly not fakes. To suggest that all these groups are fronts is offensive to all of us who have dedicated our time and efforts to them. By now, any tea-partier is quite accustomed to being accused of ignorance by intellectual elitist, but usually the attacks come from the left of us. Deakin, flailing in his anger, accuses us of being political deceivers from the GOP, or at the least dim-witted accomplices of such. He doesn’t have much faith in an idiot electorate, and surely we are such should we not endorse him.
I’m irritated that he is remaining in a race he knows he will not win. At this point, for what purpose would he want to split the vote if not just to punish the idiot electorate that he today expressed so much disdain for? The worst case scenario for Arizona would be for McCain to win yet again. On that day Deakin, a happy martyr, will push his little step-stool up the cross he’s been so enthusiastically constructing, hang his stubby little self from it, and self-righteously preach, along with his disciples (does he yet have 12?) that JD Hayworth is the devil and his voters are sinners that have damned this country and it’s Constitution to hell. It leads one to wonder what it would be like if Deakin’s wildest dreams had come true and JD had bowed out… and that leads one to wonder what’s worse: McCain or another delusional, inexperienced, haughty, self-proclaimed Messiah in national politics…
@9 DSW,
Hi DSW, I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you. If your claim is I helped elect McCain you are mistaken.
You are talking to a (formerly) absolute 100% JD donor and supporter up until this post today on Sonoran.
The previous criticisms of Deakin were distasteful, but this one took the cake!
So, if you are looking to someone to blame for the loss of my vote, there you have it. It’s the horrible, nasty supporters of JD who post something as disgusting as this.
It is THEY who drove my vote away. Since you are saying that his race rested on my vote and now my vote is gone due to this SA post today, it is THEY who lost the race for JD.
Oberserve,
I believe your issue is actually with the TEA Party and NOT JD Hayworth.
#LD17 Says:
August 17th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Tin foil, Michael….you’re gonna need a lot of it to keep all your crazy in.
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Sounds like you’re speaking from experience.
However, seeing as you’re Space Cadet #1, perhaps I can borrow a little tin foil from you and wrap up a few tasty treats for the McCain crowd, as a consolation prize, come VH (Victory Hayworth) night!
Out of compassion JD Hayworth should probably have a decompression tent for all of the cracked McCain supporters, as their pretense is shattered and they feint like swooning critters, as the reality of the situation — that McCain has lost — settles into their fractured psyches.
John McAmnesty is going to that big old Sedona house to retire and fish for Crawdads with Huck Finn and Tom Sawyer by Boggy Creek.
Some say them there Crawdads make a tasty gumbo. Yum!
Fiat Lux!
Michael Holliday…
So there were 40 or so candidates in the room where Hayworth spoke first.
The vast majority of the candidates have never run for office.
Hayworth pops off about protest candidates, finishes, hands the mic to Deakin.
Deakin during his turn makes a joke out of protest candidates verbally noting the room is packed with protest candidates and follows it up with, Harry Mitchell was also a protest candidate.
SA being desperate runs with it.
@DSW #23,
I’m a teapartier myself and as said, have been, until now, a JD supporter.
JDP,
Note the dead silence from DSW, Keith, Steven Robinson, Pam Stevenson, Greg Western, Ron Ludders, Earl Lee, Suzanne Cavalier and all the others regarding your’s, mine and other’s questions on the 527 status of the “Tea Party endorsements” and which of those “Tea Party’s” member organizations are run under 527s and control the 527′s endorsement. Dead silence. Could it just be that all those endorsements come down to either: A)Illegal endorsements without the proper IRS and FEC status; or B) Shell 527s controlled by a handful of people. My digging shows they are all A or B with mainly A and a few B. What have you find so far?
JPD, I’ve been working with many of these groups, they are all covered legally under our PAC as coalitions and alliances. You’re aware of this as I have told you before about it in prior articles, etc.
What AZ CD3 Voter said is exactly right on target, as I have heard that same message from many members of various tea parties.
Also DSW is right as well, this article wasn’t about Hayworth vs. Deakin….its about Deakin vs. Tea Parties.
None of the Tea Parties have went on an offense against Deakin, but they have been forced time after time in defending themselves from the false accusations. Mainly by Deakin and his you – and his other five supporters.
Let’s get serious for a moment – If we want to start pointing fingers, we can point out that Deakin failed to file his Pre-Primary Report to the FEC. This report as you probably know is the report that shows his receipts and expenditures for his campaign…it is required by the FEC. First a foreclosure, and now he hasn’t even filed his report to the FEC. Seriously, is that how he would run things if he was elected in the Senate? Whats your answer for that one Kohut, JPD?
http://images.nictusa.com/pdf/084/10030410084/10030410084.pdf#navpanes=0
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4409 — Psychopath, liar, flip flopper, scam artist, legislative terrorist, John (Juan) McCain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqLWvDO1Efo
I left official notice with Deakin to retract his libelous and false statements he made on his Facebook page regarding the area Tea party groups. I would encourage all the leaders of the Tea party groups he libeled to do the same
After reading Deakin’s Facebook post, if anyone still votes for him, well, IMO, you got a screw loose. This man is behaving like a kindergartner having a temper tantrum – not as a US Senate candidate.
His home is STILL in foreclosure and yet he still chooses to lie about that fact. He makes libelous attacks on the thousands of real Tea Partiers and Tea Party groups in Arizona simply because they chose to endorse JD.
Jim Deakin is not even qualified to be student body president, much less represent the citizens of Arizona in the United States Senate.
Who cares if his home is in foreclosure. The banks are stealing the peoples homes. Yes i said STEALING. Way to complicated a subject for you. You are pathetic man to judge a person in foreclosure but say nothing about McCain and Hayworth criminal behavior. Last time i checked Deakin was not a part of the Keating 5 or have Jack Abramoff over at his house. The east valley tea party is a joke. Tea parties do NOT endorse. There are no leaders….read my post above.
I agree with Deakin….
Did they endorse a candidate that voted to increase the national debt limit?
Did they endorse a candidate who voted for the Cap and Trade Pilot Program?
Did they endorse a candidate who expanded government?
Did they endorse a candidate who exceeded the enumerated powers of the US Constitution?
Did they endorse a candidate who believes earmarks are the only way to get anything done in D.C.
So what you are saying 4409 is character only matters when you want to point the “faults” out of others and not your candidate.
The EVTP is not a joke. Tea Parties DO ENDORSE all over the United States…I suggest you Google that phrase and see what comes up. And wether you like it or not, there are “leaders” or “organizers” within the movement, but there are no owners of it. which means just because you dont agree with there the movement is going, doesn’t mean its a bad thing.
How much political expeience do you have exactly? I’m just wondering because it appears to be really easy for you to judge others when you have not walked the walk.
Mark, There are real people out there named Mark who do not agree with you. Rather than have a reader guess wrong on a real name, please consider using your whole name or an entirely obvious handle. Thanks.
Keith,
Again, produce the 527 filings with those who control them and how the “TPs” fall under them. Show us all where the PACs are not controlled by a handful of people. Show us all where the member organizatons of those TP’s have direct control of the PACs and the endorsements. Words are real cheap son. Documents are priceless. Unless you cough them up it your post is simply more hot air, orchestrated shuck and jive
I wrote to the Tea Party Immigration Coalition, listed on JD Hayworth’s site under Endorsements, asking about their endorsement, and requesting information about their PAC.
From: teapic@gmail.com
Thank you for contacting us.
We are not formally endorsing JD Hayworth, but we are definitely opposing John McCain. We would appreciate any support you can give.
Michael,
How hard do you think it is for Keith to scan and send out the docs? I think it’s real hard to sent out what doesn’t exist or which shows that the few 527s that are out there are run by a handful of people and not the TP’s membership.
Keith,
Since you are fascinated with the FEC filing, ask Jim. I am not a campaign worker. That said, get onto the FEC website. If every campaign that had a late filing or had to revise a filing was out of the race then no one would be running anywhere.
There is one legal entity that is not discussed here: LLC. Some of the Tea Party organizations are set up as LLC’s and an LLC can do pretty much whatever it wants to in the political arena.
Which ones, Harry?
Anybody have a question about East Valley Tea Party? Email me. 1776redux@gmail.com or call me 480-734-8998
# 4409 Says:
August 17th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
I agree with Deakin….
Did they endorse a candidate that voted to increase the national debt limit?
Did they endorse a candidate who voted for the Cap and Trade Pilot Program?
Did they endorse a candidate who expanded government?
Did they endorse a candidate who exceeded the enumerated powers of the US Constitution?
Did they endorse a candidate who believes earmarks are the only way to get anything done in D.C.
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Sir, until you get out of your doctrinaire, pure “Constitutionalist” frame of mind, you are tantamount to a political pacifist that never takes any action because it’s not spelled out in the Constitution or doesn’t meet your fundamentalist checklist.
You are a Constitutional Fundamentalist and politically paralyzed because you are too caught up in your own superimposition of Constitutional exegesis upon every fricken’ move a candidate makes.
You are like the guys that say “there’s not a dime’s difference between the Repubs and Dems.” Well you know what? That’s the attitude that got us Maobama.
That’s the “Obama’s a good family man,” John McCain attitude that got us Socialized medical care.
And that’s that same attitude that fails to see any merit in JD Hayworth’s superior positions, such as his 100% pro life record.
100 percent friggen’ pro life!
Are you crazy?
There’s an infinite abyss between John McCain’s flawed abortion in some circumstances record and Hayworth’s angelic 100% pro life stance.
But, because Hayworth doesn’t fit your 100%, by the Constitution checklist, you resort to political suicide and advocate throwing your vote away on McDeakin Donuts.
You are a de facto pacifist.
You Constitutional Fundamentalism does not allow you to forgive JD Hayworth’s past political mistakes and look at his experience with government and how that can be used, moving forward, to stop amnesty for illegals.
You paint this friggen’ halo around Deakin based on his “Constitutional” purism, even if he can’t win, and your votes only help McCain.
Deakin has the opportunity to exercise leadership and realize that the greater evil, the election of McCain and his pro amnesty for illegal aliens agenda, overshadows Deakin’s ability to effectuate greater good by winning the election.
Therefore, Deakin must choose the greater good over the greater evil.
The greater good is the means to stop the amnesty of millions of illegal aliens into our country, not simply stand as a third-choice candidate.
The means to stop that flood is the election of JD Hayworth and like minded candidates throughout the country.
Jim Deakin says the greater good is “choice.” Having a third candidate like him on the ballot as a protest choice.
I say “choice,” in this instance, is tantamount to a political abortion against amnesty since it only works in McCain’s favor: the greater evil.
The greatest good would be Deakin’s realization that unseating McCain is the greatest good outside of his ability to win the election.
That since he cannot win, he must act for the greatest good, which is the election of JD Hayworth.
Deakin, you are exercising the will to power — your right to arrogance. That’s about all.
And in the end, your lack of action speaks louder than all of your Constitutional rhetoric combined, which amounts to about a hill of useless McDeakin Donuts.
Lol @ Michael Holliday,
Anything regarding the race aside, you rail against socialist medicine, then you use the “greatest good” argument?
That is itself the philosophical underpinning of socialism.
Talk about hypocracy!
Each person deciding what is correct for himself BY HIMSELF is the underpinning of the free market. The “greatest good” argument is in complete opposition to that.
“JPD, I’ve been working with many of these groups, they are all covered legally under our PAC as coalitions and alliances. You’re aware of this as I have told you before about it in prior articles, etc.”
In other words, no 527′s. Period.
“There is one legal entity that is not discussed here: LLC. Some of the Tea Party organizations are set up as LLC’s and an LLC can do pretty much whatever it wants to in the political arena.”
1. Not seeing any on the ACC Website.
2. I disagree. LLC’s are held to tighter restrictions than a 527.
Oberserve Says: August 17th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
@9 DSW,
“You are talking to a (formerly) absolute 100% JD donor and supporter up until this post today on Sonoran.”
IF ANYONE Believes this cock-n-bull statement by Oberserve, I have ocean-front property in Quartzite to sell really cheap!! Oberserve, I have your posts on other blogs where you make it clear that you have always been either a McCain or Deakinista. Join Pinnochio, Jon Lovitz, and Jim Carey as famous liars in history!
That’s the key characteristic of the “Deakinistas”, like Oberserve, JPD, Kohut, and of course, Deakin himself. Unwillingness to tell the truth!
Stephen Kohut Says: August 17th, 2010 at 11:24 pm “Keith, Again, produce the 527 filings with those who control them and how the “TPs” fall under them. Show us all where the PACs are not controlled by a handful of people. Show us all where the member organizations of those TP’s have direct control of the PACs and the endorsements.”
Kohut’s complete hypocrisy and deliberate ignorance of the law is absolutely astounding!! Not only can any citizen speak out and endorse a candidate for public office, SO CAN groups of people, ie Tea Parties! Through the affiliated groups, or as unincorporated associations, people can endorse a candidate! Contributing to a candidate’s campaign, that is, to actually support that candidate is the right of EVERY individual! I guess Kohut believes people need a “political endorsement” license, MUCH LIKE John McCain.
NOW HERE IS THE REALLY PRICELESS NEWS!!
Kohut’s own website banned ME for even questioning the posting of a video of Joe Kennedy endorsing Jim Deakin! Here they were, a ‘de facto’ endorser of Deakin and WHEN I questioned their legality, THEY shut me up! This happened back in March!
This video was posted by him or Sassia on THEIR website, the 912 Tea Party Project Pinal County Tea Party. And HOW is that group organized? According to their page, they are/were a 501(c)4, a Social Welfare organization! Which is BANNED from endorsing candidates! That is truly the height of hypocrisy Stephen Kohut!
THERE, they stopped my free speech rights to question their legality, BUT NOW they question the status of ANYONE else!? WHAT UTTERLY CONTEMPTIBLE HYPOCRITES!!
http://912projectpinalcounty.ning.com
In fact, the whole Deakin campaign, and all their “unpaid” campaign staff (That is, all the bloggers/propagandists), is a study in hypocrisy and deceit.
WITH this one caveat, not all the supporters for Deakin are dishonorable people. They’ve just been lied to as well…
@46 Steven Robinson.
You’re a liar. If you have them POST THEM.
This makes me sick.
JPD, (Joe) I do not run any Tea Party, so why should I have anything to say about any 527′s or PAC’s? But in your ignorance you brought me into your tirade, tell me are you really a Deakin supporter or a McCain supporter? OH, OH, I forgot you crazed political insecure little boys need to grow up. You have tried convincing us Jimmy Lee Deakin is a great candidate. Jimmy and his campaign lost me over a year ago, I know he was in the race first, he and the big “A” have been spouting that for 8 months. JD gave me a choice real choice for a real candidate who is not beholding to McCain like you and Jimmy are. When he is paid off will you be also?
Let’s clear up the air on JD’s 16 “TP” endorsements. Secondly, read the FEC and IRS requirements. It will keep you out of trouble as one of these babies is a trade name you and solely you own
AZ2010 Project – Owned by Ron Ludders, Wes Harris
Cactus Conservative Club – No trade name or corp status
Cave Creek Patriots – Trade name owned by Lady Couture LLC, Judy Hoelscher
Daisy Mountain Tea Party – No trade name or corp status
Douglas Tea Party – No trade name or corp status
East Valley Tea Party – Trade name owned by Greater Phoenix Tea Party who DOES NOT ENDORSE any candidate!
East Valley Tea party LLC owned by Greg Western, Easton Kelsey, Kin Liang, Jennifer Patentegor and Harry Matthews using a GPTP trade name, control vested in managers
Mesa Red Mountain Tea Party – No trade name or corp status
Mohave County Tea Party Patriots – Trade name owned by Steven Robinson
Mountain View Tea Party – No trade name or corp status
North Phoenix Tea Party – Trade name owned by Greater Phoenix Tea Party who DOES NOT ENDORSE any candidate!
Prescott Tea Party – No trade name or corp status but PrescottTeaParty.org LLC is owned by Lois and Michael Hendricks, control vested in managers
Southwest Valley Tea Party Patriots – Trade name owned by Greater Phoenix Tea Party who DOES NOT ENDORSE any candidate!
Sun City West Tea Party – No trade name or corp status
Tea Party Patriots of Glendale, AZ – No trade name or corp status
Tea Party Patriots of Scottsdale – Trade name owned by Tea Party Patriots Of Scottsdale Inc. controlled by Honey Marwues, no members in the corp.
Regarding the Pinal 9-12. First it isn’t “my” website. Second all websites have rules. You violated the rules of the website and were repeatedly warned by the webmaster to stop the cyber-intimidation. You didn’t. Actions have consequences and you paid the price on the Pinal 9-12 website as you have paid it on other websites. Third the Pinal 9-12 does not, has not and will not endorse any candidate. We hold to that stance without exception.
Now with the air cleared I’m sure there will be massive postings on the 527s that the above “endorsements” fall under.
Does ANYBODY really think that JD Hayworth would accept ILLEGAL endorsements from tea party groups?
seriously – grow a brain!