H.R.5741 — Universal National Service Act (Introduced in House – IH)
HR 5741 IH
111th CONGRESS
2d Session
H. R. 5741
To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
July 15, 2010
Read the bill in its entirety: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.5741:
A brief background: This bill has been introduced twice before. Rep. Charles Rangel (D) introduced it in 2003, expanding the draft to females, with the age parameters set at 18-26. With a Republican Congressional majority, it went nowhere; actually, not nowhere, but back in Rangel’s desk drawer. Rangel, with newly minted Senator Hillary Clinton singing its praises, and Democrats back in control, pulled it out in February 2006, as HR 4752, with a greatly expanded age range of 18-42, to encompass far more of the adult American population. But, the Democratic majority wasn’t quite major enough to pass it. It went back into Rangel’s top desk drawer.
Rangel evidently sees a new opportunity. He reintroduced it a few days ago, as the Universal National Service Act: HR 5741.
With Obama urging a “National Civilian Corps” and the Democrats firmly in control of both the Congress and Senate, and the leadership of Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi who thinks nothing of hiding the contents of the power-grabbing bills she promotes from the public, “We’ll have to pass it before you find out what’s in it,” Rangel’s HR 5741, in this session, has the best chance ever of being passed and signed into law. It should have had a wooden stake driven through it and burned.
Behind the façade of “National Service,” which sounds okay enough and has a sly suggestive appeal of getting idle youth off the streets, and ‘push-up’ them into a discipline their parents were too lazy to instill in their progeny, and seems to ignore that the National Guard is already tasked with “the furtherance of the national defense and homeland security,” the Democrats are proposing a sweeping and devastating crushing of our individual liberties, of our fundamental unalienable rights as stated in the Constitution of “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
The military does NOT want a draft. They are on record as opposing one. It’s doing just fine with an all-volunteer military. They like the self-selecting aspect of it; that those who don’t want to be in the military don’t apply, saving the military endless headaches from dealing with sullen and recalcitrant inductees. The military can achieve more with a smaller, but better trained and more motivated force comprised of men and women who have a natural inclination for military work. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
But this isn’t about making the military better, but WORSE. Rangel’s motivation was to make military service onerous and unwanted, to discourage American military activity.
“Ironically, in previous discussion leading up the bill, Rangel’s initiative to restore the draft was described as “an anti-war tactic” … “Rangel opposes war with Iraq and seeks to make the point that many soldiers are volunteers from low-income and minority families. Political leaders, his reasoning goes, would think twice about sending into war the sons and daughters of a more complete cross-section of America.” http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=2535
It’s a toxic inspiration for a truly vile piece of legislation, based on what has been proven to be no more than a phony urban, class warfare legend. The majority of our current all-volunteer military is not derived from poor and minority volunteers, but from the “white,” middle and upper middle class. The bill proposes seizing control of the lives of all males and females 18-42 for one of three demands of government:
1) National Service: ‘uniformed services’ or ‘civilian service’
2) Universal male-female Draft in time of war
3) For other purposes
“The bill applies to both US citizens and non-citizens, to men and women. There does not appear to be a provision which would exempt women who are pregnant and/or caring for infants/children in a young age… The bill also supports Big Brother. Those who are not sent overseas to the war theater would… be inducted into the civilian homeland defense corps and other civilian duties, including the Citizens Corps, the “Neighborhood Watch Teams” and the “Volunteer Police Service …” http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=2535
Evidently, these two categories are not quite enough, so the third provision, “for other purposes” is the lock on the shackles. This trifecta would establish a modern form of slavery, engineered by the Democratic Party, the same political party that was responsible for plunging the nation into civil war rather than give up slave labor, and jacks the executive branch power of Commander-in-Chief of the military, to Totalitarian in Chief of all the people. We can expect that Obama, being human, would be warm to this, in a self-promoting way, since he would be the first POTUS in American history to be able to exploit absolute power.
The consequences will be devastating. If anyone between the ages of 18-42, the most productive segment of our society can be yanked out of their professions, training or schooling to perform busywork for the government, then it’s the death of private enterprise in America. The societal hardships will be enormous. The government will be able to redirect work to favored partisan priorities and away from out of favor production and services. The burden on families would be worse than for singles as BOTH parents could be ordered away from their children, punishing marriage and child-raising with uncertainty, disruption and enormous emotional stress, businesses will be in a constant state of artificial disarray, dealing with unexpected employee absences, training staff only to suddenly lose them.
This “Universal National Service Act” isn’t about warfare needs, but about government totally controlling people; no one will be able to predict when they would be called up. And from what money tree is financing supposed to come for this? Taking people away from producing work to forcibly perform non-producing activities destroys personal and national wealth-creation. People working long hours will suddenly have “volunteering” work or as it is becoming known as: “volun-TOLD,” to add to their work load.
Rangel’s perverse vision for this bill is that it is to undermine our fighting capabilities. With that as its fundamental premise, it will be easy to engineer infuriating and shocking outcomes for maximum public outrage – by cynically sending women to war, while men are sent to clean toilets at public schools.
The decision to assign a draftee to one of the three named services will be made by politically-appointed draft boards, and there the potential for great mischief will manifest itself. Political enemies get sent to military service, or harassed with random forms of “deployment,” political favorites to picking flowers in national parks, or to nice urban offices to drink coffee and roam the hallways or snoop on neighbors, reporting them for “un-patriotic” activities, a system developed by the Communists to control every single person in the society.
The undefined, “any other purpose” leaves citizens totally at the mercy of the whims of political hacks. Bribery will be rampant and blatant as people bargain the price out of hardship. Prison will be the punishment for “National-Service-Dodging.”
Where is the media? They are AWOL. Perhaps they are confident their political connections will allow them exemptions that lesser mortals will not get. Because of their failure to alert the public, most Americans are not aware that this bill even exists, much less that it’s been re-introduced in the House.
It’s hard to conceive of the duplicity of the many minds, all Democrats, which produced and support such a monstrosity, but the PEOPLE of the United States will be made chattel in their own country if this Universal National Slavery Act is allowed to pass.
Contact ALL your elected representatives to oppose this hideous bill, HR 5741, and to make sure it never is seen in any form, again, ever. Do not vote for ANY politician who does not in word and deed reject completely not just this piece of abusive legislation, but also this abusive legislative mindset.
Spread the word, show people the bill. Demand the Democratic Party explain this travesty, it is being sheltered and promoted by Democrats. Our elected officials should be publicizing this outrage to the American People to expose the despicable quality and devious goals of those in the Democratic Party who are misusing their majorities to establish not governance of the People, but lordship over us.
Start in November 2010. If a candidate has DEMOCRAT by his or her name, consider what the Democrats have in store for all of us if they retain any semblance of a majority and consider the corrosive enabling effects of any candidate (I) or (R) who colludes in any way with these exploitative and totalitarian aspirations.
SONORAN ALLIANCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
Need I say more?
Wanumba, when this was voted on in 2004 it went down 402-2. It never even made it out of committee in 2006. This entire article is absurd, except for the part that a draft is not needed. Oh, and when the DOD was collecting economic information it actually did show recruits were coming disproportionately from the bottom 3 quintiles.
Todd, that’s all moot.
By rights, it should have died in 2004, but it’s back and WORSE.
The revamped, more oppressive version was re-introduced a few days ago in a veto-proof majority Democrat House and Senate which operates on the principle of, “You’ll find out when it gets passed” and with a president who REALLY REALLY WANTS it. Rangel is not alone. Hillary Clinton supports this as she hides behind Rangel, the front-man.
All new ball-game. Be very very careful.
Guess many of those stats came from Mr. Reliable Michael Moore, who’s the personification of Mark Twain’s “There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.”
Military Misconceptions as explained at TomPaine
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/military_misconceptions.php
Helpfully, it’s dated 2004, so this has been around for awhile.
Todd,
I haven’t checked your statistics, but if they are true, please keep in mind that 2 of those quintiles are middle-class (lower-middle, and middle-middle). Thus, it is possible that the majority of troops are from the 2nd-4th quintiles and Wanumba’s assertion is correct.
The “racial”, “ethnic” and economic strata of volunteers dsitributed thru today’s all-volunteer military very closely mirrors greater American society. The claim that “poor people” make up the military in disproportionate numbers is false.
The bill was initially justified with a lie and went downhill from there.
Wanumba,
The military is ethnically diverse and educated, that is obvious from the statistics. The class issue is merely asserted in your sources and is not backed by the data the DOD was collecting until 1999.
Ken,
Yes, but what i said was in counter to wanumba’s claim. The last info available indicates a skewing towards the lower end of the economic spectrum. This in no way is meant to reflect poorly on those in the military it is rather a statement that there is in fact a class discrepancy between those who will likely make decisions of war and those who will serve especially taking into account there are 237 millionaires in Congress.
Todd,
You are off in a little corner quibbling about variations of 1-2 percentage points. Literally. The volunteer military so closely mirrors the normal cross-section of American society one would have to be either obsessive compulsive to need to account that it doesn’t PERFECTLY match for that small variation, which is too small to justify the screeches of partisan hacks who have an agenda to push or … one would have to be a partisan hack with an agenda to push.
MEANWHILE. There’s a donkey in the room the size of an elephant and you are ignoring it.
Lets take a look at that first line, and whittle it down to the essential:
“To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, and for other purposes.”
This bill would allow the POTUS to make everyone 18-42 do whatever he wants, no controls, no limits, no peace, no mercy.
That ANYONE would conceive of this, much less an AMERICAN of an AMERICAN political party, and bring it to the House of Representatives in the United States of America, with over 240 years of fighting for our own freedoms, a civil war to wipe out slavery, foreign wars to restore and revive other nations’ freedoms is beyond grotesque.
It shouldn’t be there. Yet, it is.
Unlike Bush, who would cut off his right arm before he’d sign anything even REMOTELY like that that, we have Obama, who WANTS it, and he’s got his Democratic Party majority who are willing to oblige IF THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT.
Quoting the overwheming negative vote during a Republican majority in a time of a Republican president is worthless. Republicans are NOT the Party of Slavery. Thats’ the DEMOCRATS. ANd they are in charge now.
Evidently, the Democrats have NEVER repudiated their affinity for slavery.
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“especially taking into account there are 237 millionaires in Congress.”
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Most of whom are Democrats.
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todd Says:
August 4th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Ken,
Yes, but what i said was in counter to wanumba’s claim. The last info available indicates
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You make “claims,” I tell you what’s going on in real life.
I have two sons in the military right now. Since last year, people have been pouring into it.
Why? They’re still hiring.
Since our son is an EMT, he was looking at medical corpsman slots on Thursday night. The recruiters had 23 openings available at 5 pm, closing. No problem, finish up in the morning. The next morning, when they opened the office at 8 am, and turned on the computer, there were only 12 slots and disappearing fast. They were shocked.
With fire departments nationwide in budget melt-down, the departments aren’t hiring. Paramedics and EMTS wanting to work in emergency medicine headed for the military, en mass.
Now, this was in March, BEFORE the universities and high schools graduated their seniors. The slots were LONG GONE before May hit, grabbed by experienced professionals.
Therefore, the most recent data will show a RISE in education and economic status in the military as skilled men and women who can’t find work they have trained for in the market go enlist.
The military is so being flooded with skilled people, that the sign-up bonuses were discontinued a year ago. The ones who WON’T get in will be the POOR who TEND to be POORLY EDUCATED. Too much competition.
The Democrat-Union effect: THREE years ago, the fire/rescue professions were already reporting a crisis in the fire departments. Close to retirement firefighters, plus departments that were more pension obligations than salaries of active firefighters are combined to disaster. Departments across the country cannot afford to hire new recruits. The staffs are top-heavy with close-to-retirement, pensions pay-outs and few incoming. The opportunities for on-the-job mentoring and training of experienced to newbes are shrinking to close to nil.
Last year, a fellow here told us that he’d responded to a hiring announcement by one of the Phoenix private fire/medical services. There were over 2,000 applicants for only ten slots.
The world’s finest emergency services, copied all over the world are imploding due to selfish, greedy politically-machinated fiscal planning. Democrat-Union.
SO as the Democrats destroy our free market, our public service sector, their “fix” is involuntary servitude.
Wanumba,
I hope the bill again gets voted down by a wide margin as I think it is terrible idea, although it is a rather widespread requirement in many countries. I suppose you think Israelis are slaves to the state of Israel because they have mandatory service requirements.
You claim people support it who don’t. You claim to know things about the class distribution of the entire military based on your personal experience and you claim that most millionaires in the Congress are Democrats when it is in fact pretty evenly divided. As usual, your problem is that you largely base your opinions on what you feel should be the truth rather than actual information, rational argument or sound judgement.
During the campaign B. Hussein Obama stated he wanted a “National Police Force” to be created along with mandatory service in return for “Free College Tuition”.
H.R.5741 — Universal National Service Act, is the legislative bill to give the POTUS the power to use this “Personal Police Force” for political means.
Seventy-five years ago history demonstrated several fascist dictators rise to supreme power using private police to quell resistance of the free people prior to Coup d’état
todd Says:
August 4th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Wanumba,
I hope the bill again gets voted down by a wide margin as I think it is terrible idea, although it is a rather widespread requirement in many countries. I suppose you think Israelis are slaves to the state of Israel because they have mandatory service requirements.
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Stop supposing out of your own narrow stereotype of what you think how I think.
The closest equivalent to what’s being proposed is communist China and communist China’s proxy North Korea. NONE of the National Service requirements in other countries come close. This bill goes far beyond their hapless “make-work” and into the category of oppressive control states.
That is not an exaggeration. At this stage, it’s a disgusting disgrace, something that should never have been written in the first place. If the Democrats succeed in passing it in any permutation, it’ll be a massive human rights abuse of American citizens. SHAME! Don’t let it happen.
AGES 18-42 REQUIRED NATIONAL SERVICE FOR ANY PURPOSE AS DEFINED BY THE POTUS.
That’s 2 1/2 DECADES of an individual’s life jerked about at any time by the goevrnment at the WHIM of the POTUS.
America is NOT a totalitarian dictatorship. This bill if passed would make it one.
Have you called your representatives as yet, instead of wasting time and effort trying to nit-pick insignificant details?
Americans, by private enterprise, taking responsibility for themselves and their own families, starting up new businesses, expanding production, building to meet demaind, ae ALREADY doing more for “National Service” than ANY government plan could EVER do.
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Americans excess production has traditionally provided the food to feed starving nations all across the globe. The UN and UNICEF bags of food aid come oevrwhelmingly from the USA. Our doctors donate their time already to provide high-tech, high-skill surgery and medical care to poor nations. DONATE!
This Democrat Destroy America scheme will also destroy all that.
wanumba – I would surprised if this bill even comes to a full vote and if it does it gets more than 4 votes total. This bill is actually little different than many countries – all I personally oppose – and claiming it is like North Korea demonstrates you are not even understanding what is in the bill. To claim it is slavery is even more absurd.
Asking who is doing the fighting and dying and who gets to make the decision to send them is never a side issue in a democracy.
You know what this is? It’s Obama’s little bunch of Brown Shirts, the requirement of all 18-24? year olds to serve in a civilian army. Watch out.
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todd Says:
August 4th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Asking who is doing the fighting and dying and who gets to make the decision to send them is never a side issue in a democracy
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Did you actually READ the bill and the accompanying article?
RANGEL is on record as saying the PURPOSE is to destroy America’s willingness to fight. Added to that original purpose is to FORCE people to Mandatory National Service of ANY sort cooked up by the POTUS.
HE’s perfectly willing to select out WOMEN to DIE FOR NOTHING expressly to generate public outrage, bust up families, businesses, people’s lives. Men, too, but he knows dead women will hit hardest, so that’s better for him and the Democrats who hide behind im.
How evil is that?
That bill shouldn’t even EXIST, it’s so unAmerican in spirit, so evil in intent, much less be accepted into the House for ANY kind of ebate or serious discussion. Americans rose up to shout at their representatives that they didn’t want “Comprehensive ObamaCare” and Congress blew them off, because it’s about consolidating their power, not healthcare.
Here’s a chance to control everyone and it’s Obama as POTUS who WILL SIGN if it arrives on his desk.
There is NO sure thing right now that it’ll be tossed into the crapper as it should be.
Wanumba, i know what is in the proposed bill and that Rangel is not trying to destroy the US willingness to fight but rather to destroy the willingness to start military action unless the country is truly committed to it. While i disagree with the tactic, i hardly would call the intent evil.
Since the last time it even came to a vote only two members votes yes, what do you propose should be done? Any member of Congresss can draft a bill and try and get it a hearing in committee. Last time this bill did not even make it out of committee which is exactly how things are suppose to work. My sense is that you had no idea of how little support this bill had in the past when you wrote this piece. Doing some basic background research might help avoid similar mistakes in the future.
Ooh wanumba and his conspiracy theories. Thanks for the good but as always detached from reality…
This doesn’t have anywhere near the support in the house necessary and even if it did… The senate wouldn’t touch it… This is such a pointless post. Like most of your rants.
WHy don’t ya’ll keep track of it’s progress for us so all Americans aren’t blind-sided by it?
I would be delighted that the bill has no chances.
But it’s BACK and it’s WORSE and it’s DEMOCRATS in the majority and in the executive branch. It’s preposterous to keep comparing the current circumstances to a Republican majority, with a Republican POTUS. No Republican would support it, Bush would have had a guy with a flame thrower at the WHite House gate to greet the bill had it weaseled its way to a passing vote, and Democrats had NO COVER then. Obama WANTS this. The media isn’t telling the People how abusive it is. The Democrats CAN pass it wihout a single GOP vote.
You can dump and sneer all you want AFTER it’s dead and gone. A bit stupid to dance about BEFORE that.
Wanumba how can they pass it in the senate without a single GOP vote? They would have to get past a cloture vote where you need AT LEAST 1 republican… So you’re math is a bit off…
They’ve achieved getting the one and two GOP votes this year. You haven’t noticed? It’s been all over the news.
And have ya’ll been paying attention to Kenya?
Yesterday, Kenyans passed a new Constitution, which according to media reports, “limits powers of the president.”
Fair enough.
Msybe. But, they failed to mention something.
But, Obama’s self-described LUO tribal cousin and life-long hard core Communist, who Obama campaigned for on US taxpayer dime, in evidently illegal nepotistic and possible LOGAN ACT violations, Odinga, who then assaulted and lynched his way to a power-sharing position with a cowed President Kibaki, put in allowing for SHARIA law and abortion.
Abortion? Children are Africans’ traditional social security system, ESPECIALLY for their mothers, who they take care of in their mothers’ old age. With no adult progeny, one starves to death. But Western Lefties are so obsessed with killing babies, ESPECIALLY black babies, they inserted something that wouldn’t normally be there if left to KENYANS.
In the new Kenyan constitution, no less, reportedly thanks to millions of US taxpayer dollars committed by the OBAMA administration to enable this MEDDLING BRUTAL CHANGE in another government.
Obama is the most pro-abortion elected official ever seen in AMerica.
Southern Sudan suffered ten years of brutal civil war to RID themselvs of SHARIA LAW which the Northern Muslim Suandese goevrnemnt IMPOSED on them.
It appears that OBAMA and the DEMOCRATS just helped get sharia CODIFIED into Kenya.
Yep. Yep.
Abortion and Muslim courts – aka SHARIA.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-10729860
Next question is how much Obama and the Democrats put to it. At least one GOP elected official has asked about VP Joe Biden’s activities regarding this referendum and raised questions about millions of dollars of US taxpayer money to fund the referendum.
While Blacks and minority percentages of military personnel closely mirrors American society overall, that’s NOT the case in abortion statistics.
Black and minority abortions are significantly disproportionate to their population.
Democrats wail and tear their clothes over the military, but are silent at the geonoicide of blacks and minorities in abortion clinics across the country.
More blacks, poor and minorities have died through abortion than in ALL US wars and military activities combined. By the millions MORE. Abortion is a solid plank in the Democratic Party Platform.
Wanumba stop contradicting yourself you prevopusly saod about the draft that NO republican while bush was president would support it. Most of those GOP senators are the same so who would flip now that wasn’t there before??
Just admit this conspiracy theoriest, alarmist stuff is just a bunch of BS
By the refer to comment 21 where you say NO republican would support it… so now you think thats possible? Especially when the bill has gotten “worse” as you… You are typical alarmist wanumba
I wouldn’t want to cross a street with you, you can’t tell the difference in magnitude and significance between a pedestrian and a tractor trailer. Have you called your resepresentatives as yet? There’s a lot at stake.
How do you like your tax dollars being used to insert head-chopping, hand amputating, stoning of women, execution for homosexuality, ie: sharia permanently into the Kenya Constitution?
It was important to the Obama Administration, so they put money and effort to it. Obama WANTS Universal NAtional Service. It’s been reintroduced in the House for a REASON. Maybe Pelosi will bargain to exempt certain states, like Nebraska to get a RINO vote? ALL the DEMOCRATS voted for the Healthcare, and “Financial Reform” but somehow that’s nowhere near the significance of one or two turncoat GOP.
Now, we have a totally unqualified political hack on the Supreme Court who actually designated Muslim Women Swim Time at Harvard, barring all Harvard men from the pool area. She didn’t do that for American women.
everytime you veer off into another rant you just prove how ridiculous you are. Thanks wanumba keep it up
as usual, when wanumba has been shown to have no idea what he is talking about he brings up Kenya.
johnny,
This is an old trend in right-wing paranoia – http://is.gd/e571x
He who laughs last laughs best.
todd Says:
August 5th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
as usual, when wanumba has been shown to have no idea what he is talking about he brings up Kenya.
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So, how much money you willing to put down that sharia courts are NOT an element of the new Kenyan Constitution?