Comments on: The Fairy Tale is Over, JD is Simply Unelectable http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/ Arizona Politics, News, Commentary and Information with a Blatantly Conservative Worldview Presented by an Alliance of Writers, Activists, Consultants and Government Insiders. Sat, 26 May 2012 00:01:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: jewelry tv http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-437818 jewelry tv Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:12:55 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-437818 Wow. Looks fake in the picture. That ring at Tiffany would definitely be more than a regular car, more like a sports car. Also, I don't recognize the style to be a Tiffany ring. Wow. Looks fake in the picture. That ring at Tiffany would definitely be more than a regular car, more like a sports car. Also, I don’t recognize the style to be a Tiffany ring.

]]> By: Frank S. http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-259702 Frank S. Mon, 02 Aug 2010 17:58:41 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-259702 Jeff, You're ridin' high in April, shot down in May But I know I'm gonna change that tune When I'm back on top, back on top in June I said that's life (that's life), and as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a dream But I don't let it, let it get me down 'cause this fine old world, it keeps spinnin' around ESTIMATE on origins of McCain’s recent polling support: Democrats – 40 % Independents – 40 % Republicans – 20 % Estimate of Hayworth’s recent polling support: Democrats – 8 % Independents – 30 % Republicans – 62 % Brad – a “seminar conservative”? Jeff,

You’re ridin’ high in April, shot down in May

But I know I’m gonna change that tune

When I’m back on top, back on top in June

I said that’s life (that’s life), and as funny as it may seem

Some people get their kicks stompin’ on a dream

But I don’t let it, let it get me down

’cause this fine old world, it keeps spinnin’ around

ESTIMATE on origins of McCain’s recent polling support:

Democrats – 40 %
Independents – 40 %
Republicans – 20 %

Estimate of Hayworth’s recent polling support:

Democrats – 8 %

Independents – 30 %

Republicans – 62 %

Brad – a “seminar conservative”?

]]> By: Hunter http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-259698 Hunter Mon, 02 Aug 2010 17:31:43 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-259698 Brad, no ultra conservative could actually support John McCain over JD Hayworth. In fact, no conservative of any kind could. McCain favors liberal policies like cap and trade for carbon dioxide, TARP bailouts with about $150 Billion in earmarks, was against the Bush income tax cuts, is weak on life issues compared to Hayworth, and is responsive to large contributors who want to regulate their competitors (as with vitamin supplements). In addition, he supports "regularizing" illegal aliens - essentially giving them amnesty. Even if JD Hayworth has nothing behind his words, as you assert (and I disagree with), it would be better to have nothing moving forward than liberal policies of increased government control. I don't dispute that many of neighbors support John McCain. Many in my precinct also support McCain, but they are not ultra conservative. In fact, they are generally "pragmatic" Republicans who, along with Democrats, no longer respect constitutional limits on the federal government. The fact that McCain has outspent JD Hayworth by more than 10:1 - mostly on smearing Hayworth and lying about McCain's positions on illegal aliens - may also have something to do with the polling results and may determine the outcome of the election. McCain has already spent more against JD Hayworth than Kyl spent against Pederson, a Democrat, in 2006. McCain is also using "leftover" money from his failed presidential campaign to finance his Senate primary campaign. This just reinforces the notion that McCain campaigns harder against Republicans than he does against Democrats. Brad, no ultra conservative could actually support John McCain over JD Hayworth. In fact, no conservative of any kind could. McCain favors liberal policies like cap and trade for carbon dioxide, TARP bailouts with about $150 Billion in earmarks, was against the Bush income tax cuts, is weak on life issues compared to Hayworth, and is responsive to large contributors who want to regulate their competitors (as with vitamin supplements). In addition, he supports “regularizing” illegal aliens – essentially giving them amnesty.

Even if JD Hayworth has nothing behind his words, as you assert (and I disagree with), it would be better to have nothing moving forward than liberal policies of increased government control.

I don’t dispute that many of neighbors support John McCain. Many in my precinct also support McCain, but they are not ultra conservative. In fact, they are generally “pragmatic” Republicans who, along with Democrats, no longer respect constitutional limits on the federal government.

The fact that McCain has outspent JD Hayworth by more than 10:1 – mostly on smearing Hayworth and lying about McCain’s positions on illegal aliens – may also have something to do with the polling results and may determine the outcome of the election. McCain has already spent more against JD Hayworth than Kyl spent against Pederson, a Democrat, in 2006. McCain is also using “leftover” money from his failed presidential campaign to finance his Senate primary campaign. This just reinforces the notion that McCain campaigns harder against Republicans than he does against Democrats.

]]> By: Brad http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-259571 Brad Mon, 02 Aug 2010 03:11:32 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-259571 Living in the East Valley, we see about one JD supporter in 50. Our community is ultra conservative and we see right through JD Hayworth. JD relies on his mouth to get him votes, yet his history and votes are what we look at when deciding who to vote for. JD simply has nothing to offer us but a lot of words that have no strength or meaning behind them. Living in the East Valley, we see about one JD supporter in 50. Our community is ultra conservative and we see right through JD Hayworth. JD relies on his mouth to get him votes, yet his history and votes are what we look at when deciding who to vote for. JD simply has nothing to offer us but a lot of words that have no strength or meaning behind them.

]]> By: JB http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-259521 JB Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:20:00 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-259521 The reason that McCain will not run on his own record (and has used smear campaigns with all kinds of media to the tune of about $15 million dollars) is because his record looks real bad for him. By the way has anyone seen the Pig Man sent by McCains people to Hayworth events? I thought the Dems were the "look over there" distractors. But I digress; lets look at McCains "conservative" voting record. Not only did McCain vote for Tarp, he wanted an additional 300 billion to buy up bad dept (guess who would have paid for that). McCain was part of the gang of 14 that prevented conservative judicial noninees from being appointed by the Bush Administration. He reached across the aisle (to the dems) to get rid of the conservative nominees. McCain voted against the Bush tax cuts calling them tax cuts for the wealthy (Hayworth helped write the Bush tax cuts). McCain co-wrote the McCain-Lieberman Cap and Trade Bill and recently sponsered the Dietary Supplement legislation allowing the Federal gov. control over the vitamins and supplements that millions of Americans take. Sounds like bigger governement to me. And please lets not forget McCain-Feingold legislation and support of the auto bail outs. Now someone please tell us again how John McCain is a real conservative! The reason that McCain will not run on his own record (and has used smear campaigns with all kinds of media to the tune of about $15 million dollars) is because his record looks real bad for him. By the way has anyone seen the Pig Man sent by McCains people to Hayworth events? I thought the Dems were the “look over there” distractors. But I digress; lets look at McCains “conservative” voting record. Not only did McCain vote for Tarp, he wanted an additional 300 billion to buy up bad dept (guess who would have paid for that). McCain was part of the gang of 14 that prevented conservative judicial noninees from being appointed by the Bush Administration. He reached across the aisle (to the dems) to get rid of the conservative nominees. McCain voted against the Bush tax cuts calling them tax cuts for the wealthy (Hayworth helped write the Bush tax cuts). McCain co-wrote the McCain-Lieberman Cap and Trade Bill and recently sponsered the Dietary Supplement legislation allowing the Federal gov. control over the vitamins and supplements that millions of Americans take. Sounds like bigger governement to me. And please lets not forget McCain-Feingold legislation and support of the auto bail outs. Now someone please tell us again how John McCain is a real conservative!

]]> By: JB http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-259493 JB Sun, 01 Aug 2010 18:41:31 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-259493 PS: The 20% lead that Scott Browns opponent had two weeks before the election wasn't helpful to them. PS: The 20% lead that Scott Browns opponent had two weeks before the election wasn’t helpful to them.

]]> By: JB http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-259491 JB Sun, 01 Aug 2010 18:38:34 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-259491 The Hayworth supporters are doing real work for real conservative candidates. Lets see, that would be Hayworth, Andrew Thomas, Bill Montgomery, etc.... I would say that John McCain is not a "real conservative" based upon his vote for amnesty and Tarp alone. As far as political missteps does anyone remember the Keating Five and I'm still waiting for lettuce to be $50 a head (his speech in Yuma when he was trying to push through amnesty)? Regarding pork barrel spending, McCain knows "dang" well that any bill that is put through for a vote will have pork attached by others and if one wants the bill to pass they will vote yes. Therefore by this defination anyone that votes "yes" on a bill is a "pork barrel spender". Can anyone say "John McCain"? These are just at the top of the barrel. As far as quick to anger, McCain has that down to a science not to mention being arrogant and vindictive (yes it has been seen and felt by many people). He plays dirty and then points the finger at anyone that brings up his record or gets in his way. McCain is disconnected from the American poeple and is now as much of an elitist as Obama is. By the way do you know why "the snakes in Guam" ad was removed? Because McCain voted for it too. The Hayworth supporters are doing real work for real conservative candidates. Lets see, that would be Hayworth, Andrew Thomas, Bill Montgomery, etc…. I would say that John McCain is not a “real conservative” based upon his vote for amnesty and Tarp alone. As far as political missteps does anyone remember the Keating Five and I’m still waiting for lettuce to be $50 a head (his speech in Yuma when he was trying to push through amnesty)? Regarding pork barrel spending, McCain knows “dang” well that any bill that is put through for a vote will have pork attached by others and if one wants the bill to pass they will vote yes. Therefore by this defination anyone that votes “yes” on a bill is a “pork barrel spender”. Can anyone say “John McCain”? These are just at the top of the barrel. As far as quick to anger, McCain has that down to a science not to mention being arrogant and vindictive (yes it has been seen and felt by many people). He plays dirty and then points the finger at anyone that brings up his record or gets in his way. McCain is disconnected from the American poeple and is now as much of an elitist as Obama is. By the way do you know why “the snakes in Guam” ad was removed? Because McCain voted for it too.

]]> By: Travis http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-259479 Travis Sun, 01 Aug 2010 16:50:52 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-259479 The delusion that all the McCain support is from liberals and paid staffers is the same delusion that leads some to think JD can win this race. If JD were not a pork barrel spender, arrogant to his detriment and too quick to anger and political missteps, he may have had a chance. Like Ann, I'm not a paid staffer, and I understand 20+ percentage point leads - especially since voting already started. It's over for Hayworth. The Hayworth supporters would do well to eat a little humble pie, stop lying and attacking fellow Republicans and start doing real work for real conservative candidates. The delusion that all the McCain support is from liberals and paid staffers is the same delusion that leads some to think JD can win this race.

If JD were not a pork barrel spender, arrogant to his detriment and too quick to anger and political missteps, he may have had a chance.

Like Ann, I’m not a paid staffer, and I understand 20+ percentage point leads – especially since voting already started. It’s over for Hayworth.

The Hayworth supporters would do well to eat a little humble pie, stop lying and attacking fellow Republicans and start doing real work for real conservative candidates.

]]> By: Ann http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-259468 Ann Sun, 01 Aug 2010 15:49:39 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-259468 OK, will someone please tell me when I am supposed to get the paycheck y'all keep referring to? Geez, having been a reader and comment on this site long before most of you....I am due some serious back pay! Sorry...but this life-long Republican, PC since the 1980's and hard working self-employed small business owner....is not a paid hack. There are those who post and comment on this site who are...just not me. I actually believe in what I say because I choose to, not because I am paid to. Mr. Carlist...or whatever you post under today....even if I was it does not dismiss the truth of my words. McCain will win. JD will lose. OK, will someone please tell me when I am supposed to get the paycheck y’all keep referring to? Geez, having been a reader and comment on this site long before most of you….I am due some serious back pay!

Sorry…but this life-long Republican, PC since the 1980′s and hard working self-employed small business owner….is not a paid hack.

There are those who post and comment on this site who are…just not me. I actually believe in what I say because I choose to, not because I am paid to.

Mr. Carlist…or whatever you post under today….even if I was it does not dismiss the truth of my words.

McCain will win. JD will lose.

]]> By: Carlist http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-259449 Carlist Sun, 01 Aug 2010 13:06:07 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-259449 A few posts back, Mole referred to the detestation towards McCain on the part of the party faithful. That emotion is indicative of one thing, John McCain does not, and never hss, represented the views of the average Republican. As a matter of fact, he and his merry band (Arlen Spector, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Lindsey Graham and the recently installed Scott Brown, have gone out of their way to "stick it" to him! Now is the time to return the favor. And let the paid hacks like Ann get the message! A few posts back, Mole referred to the detestation towards McCain on the part of the party faithful.

That emotion is indicative of one thing, John McCain does not, and never hss, represented the views of the average Republican.

As a matter of fact, he and his merry band (Arlen Spector, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Lindsey Graham and the recently installed Scott Brown, have gone out of their way to “stick it” to him!

Now is the time to return the favor. And let the paid hacks like Ann get the message!

]]> By: KL http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-259424 KL Sun, 01 Aug 2010 10:36:51 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-259424 Molly you speak of two losing elections. Need I remind you McCain has lost two election bids for the Presidency. America has now told McCain, "Thanks but not thanks," twice AZ will soon do the same. Molly you speak of two losing elections. Need I remind you McCain has lost two election bids for the Presidency. America has now told McCain, “Thanks but not thanks,” twice AZ will soon do the same.

]]> By: DeAnn http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-259358 DeAnn Sun, 01 Aug 2010 05:01:23 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-259358 Rasmussen must be polling different people than I talk to. I don't see a lot of support for McCain. They really don't like his negative ads. Rasmussen must be polling different people than I talk to. I don’t see a lot of support for McCain. They really don’t like his negative ads.

]]> By: Carl Hammer http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-259355 Carl Hammer Sun, 01 Aug 2010 04:25:27 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-259355 Long ago there was another man who lost some elections, and then they made him president. Mr. Lincoln will long be remembered. Funny thing is, no matter who I talk to, they like JD over Johnny McC. Remember the fat lady. It ain't over till she sings, and I don't even hear the orchestra yet, do you? Long ago there was another man who lost some elections, and then they made him president. Mr. Lincoln will long be remembered.

Funny thing is, no matter who I talk to, they like JD over Johnny McC. Remember the fat lady. It ain’t over till she sings, and I don’t even hear the orchestra yet, do you?

]]> By: Hamilcarbarca http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-259354 Hamilcarbarca Sun, 01 Aug 2010 04:23:49 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-259354 JD has the right stuff, always had it. He is a true patriot who will not compromise a la McCain when he shouldn't. He has a knowledge of our history that few elected officials have. This is vital for good government. How can congress make intelligent decisions made only on opinions and ideology? That's not the case with JD. He really knows what to do and why he does it. He's definitely got my vote. JD has the right stuff, always had it. He is a true patriot who will not compromise a la McCain when he shouldn’t. He has a knowledge of our history that few elected officials have. This is vital for good government. How can congress make intelligent decisions made only on opinions and ideology? That’s not the case with JD. He really knows what to do and why he does it. He’s definitely got my vote.

]]> By: Alicia Gegner http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/07/31/the-fairy-tale-is-over-jd-is-simply-unelectable/comment-page-1/#comment-259353 Alicia Gegner Sun, 01 Aug 2010 04:23:07 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=13737#comment-259353 Long ago there was another man who lost some elections, and then they made him president. Mr. Lincoln will long be remembered. Funny thing is, no matter who I talk to, they like JD over Johnny McC. Remember the fat lady. It ain't over till she sings, and I don't even hear the orchestra yet, do you? Long ago there was another man who lost some elections, and then they made him president. Mr. Lincoln will long be remembered.

Funny thing is, no matter who I talk to, they like JD over Johnny McC. Remember the fat lady. It ain’t over till she sings, and I don’t even hear the orchestra yet, do you?

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