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	<title>Comments on: Chamber Trying to Pass Off Open Borders Crowd as Border Hawks</title>
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		<title>By: State Senator Jack Harper</title>
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		<dc:creator>State Senator Jack Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear CQ (contributing under a different name on a different post),

You are a liar.  I did not discharge any debt to the state.  You also are violating the business agreement we have.  I paid you to be my consultant for June and July.  You took my money and back-stabbed me all the while you were trying to force me to run as a team with your criminal client.  Posting this during the month that you are supposed to be working FOR me should send a red flag to your other clients.  Of course, you damaged them for Scott as well, when Scott tried to get the Legislature to pass an amendment to give him an exclusive contract after he had already lost the bid for E-procurement.  He was lobbying without being registered and is unelectable in the general election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear CQ (contributing under a different name on a different post),</p>
<p>You are a liar.  I did not discharge any debt to the state.  You also are violating the business agreement we have.  I paid you to be my consultant for June and July.  You took my money and back-stabbed me all the while you were trying to force me to run as a team with your criminal client.  Posting this during the month that you are supposed to be working FOR me should send a red flag to your other clients.  Of course, you damaged them for Scott as well, when Scott tried to get the Legislature to pass an amendment to give him an exclusive contract after he had already lost the bid for E-procurement.  He was lobbying without being registered and is unelectable in the general election.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the immigration issue, Nancy Barto is a quintessential &quot;Chambermaid&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the immigration issue, Nancy Barto is a quintessential &#8220;Chambermaid&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Glendale GOP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glendale GOP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Barnstormer, when it comes to issues of border security and stopping illegal immigration, neither Barto nor Driggs has any credibility anymore as conservatives.  They forfeited that when they were the Sanctuary Six and walked off of the floor back in 2009.  Those cowards were afraid of being on record as being for sanctuary cities so they ran like rats.  Same goes for Konopnicki, Quelland, Mason, and Crandall.  You can call those six conservatives all you want, but real conservatives cast conservative votes.  They don&#039;t hide in the parking lot until its all over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Barnstormer, when it comes to issues of border security and stopping illegal immigration, neither Barto nor Driggs has any credibility anymore as conservatives.  They forfeited that when they were the Sanctuary Six and walked off of the floor back in 2009.  Those cowards were afraid of being on record as being for sanctuary cities so they ran like rats.  Same goes for Konopnicki, Quelland, Mason, and Crandall.  You can call those six conservatives all you want, but real conservatives cast conservative votes.  They don&#8217;t hide in the parking lot until its all over.</p>
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		<title>By: PV Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>PV Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Davis went to work at the White House to protect us after 9-11 and the Driggs folks want to turn him into a &quot;DC Insider&quot;?  That&#039;s funny.  I can only imagine what they would have done to him had he been in the U.S. Army.  Would two tours in Iraq have qualified him as a Middle-Easterner or a foreigner?  According to his mailers he and his wife are both Arizona natives.  On the good side for Davis, if all Adam Driggs&#039; fans have on him is he worked in the White House, that&#039;s alright.  And if that&#039;s how they want to distract from Adam&#039;s moderate record (or as the Chamber likely calls it, his &quot;hard-core right wing record), then they must not have anything real to brag about.  Which makes the point of this blog post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Davis went to work at the White House to protect us after 9-11 and the Driggs folks want to turn him into a &#8220;DC Insider&#8221;?  That&#8217;s funny.  I can only imagine what they would have done to him had he been in the U.S. Army.  Would two tours in Iraq have qualified him as a Middle-Easterner or a foreigner?  According to his mailers he and his wife are both Arizona natives.  On the good side for Davis, if all Adam Driggs&#8217; fans have on him is he worked in the White House, that&#8217;s alright.  And if that&#8217;s how they want to distract from Adam&#8217;s moderate record (or as the Chamber likely calls it, his &#8220;hard-core right wing record), then they must not have anything real to brag about.  Which makes the point of this blog post.</p>
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		<title>By: BarnStormer7</title>
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		<dc:creator>BarnStormer7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is too funny.  Portraying Adam Driggs and Nancy Barto in some light that they don&#039;t have conservative creds anymore.
Are we next going to say that Krstin Sinema is now a moderate because she said on Fox last night that she is all for border security?
The pro-Sheriff Joe/pro-SB1070 Phoenix Law Enforcement Assn. that can&#039;t stand their sanctuary city police chief Jackey Boy Harris endorsed Driggs.  So, can 3000 police officers be wrong?
I am now relying on S.R. for comic relief when I want something that makes no sense at all.  It has become as funny as the Ariz. Blue Meanie has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is too funny.  Portraying Adam Driggs and Nancy Barto in some light that they don&#8217;t have conservative creds anymore.<br />
Are we next going to say that Krstin Sinema is now a moderate because she said on Fox last night that she is all for border security?<br />
The pro-Sheriff Joe/pro-SB1070 Phoenix Law Enforcement Assn. that can&#8217;t stand their sanctuary city police chief Jackey Boy Harris endorsed Driggs.  So, can 3000 police officers be wrong?<br />
I am now relying on S.R. for comic relief when I want something that makes no sense at all.  It has become as funny as the Ariz. Blue Meanie has.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I take that back, I just did what the mailer asked me to do and I looked up HB2010 from the third special session.

Driggs voted with Russell Pearce, Ron Gould, Carl Seel, Frank Antenori, etc. None of whom I would consider even slightly liberal.  It seems that if Davis would have voted NO as he expects Driggs to have done, Davis would have voted with Rebecca Rios, Meg Burton Cahill, Ken Cheuvront and Kyrsten Sinema.  Yikes.

Davis&#039; hit peice takes a shot at every conservative legislator that most of us support.  What looked like a good hit peice, doesn&#039;t seem to fly when you look at the facts.  Davis needs to study the issues a little better before he throws stones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I take that back, I just did what the mailer asked me to do and I looked up HB2010 from the third special session.</p>
<p>Driggs voted with Russell Pearce, Ron Gould, Carl Seel, Frank Antenori, etc. None of whom I would consider even slightly liberal.  It seems that if Davis would have voted NO as he expects Driggs to have done, Davis would have voted with Rebecca Rios, Meg Burton Cahill, Ken Cheuvront and Kyrsten Sinema.  Yikes.</p>
<p>Davis&#8217; hit peice takes a shot at every conservative legislator that most of us support.  What looked like a good hit peice, doesn&#8217;t seem to fly when you look at the facts.  Davis needs to study the issues a little better before he throws stones.</p>
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		<title>By: cinqo</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinqo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you people for real? Driggs is a good guy and doesn&#039;t legislate too much. Didn&#039;t vote for Napolitano&#039;s budgets either.

We don&#039;t need a Rich Davis, DC insider, buying a state Senate seat. His laughable ideas in attracting business to the state are also full of conflicts of interest (if his businesses are real and actually do what he says they do).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you people for real? Driggs is a good guy and doesn&#8217;t legislate too much. Didn&#8217;t vote for Napolitano&#8217;s budgets either.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need a Rich Davis, DC insider, buying a state Senate seat. His laughable ideas in attracting business to the state are also full of conflicts of interest (if his businesses are real and actually do what he says they do).</p>
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		<title>By: Goodyear GOP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goodyear GOP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Chamber wants to put out a mailer saying &quot;We love Adam Driggs because he is good for Big Business here in Arizona&quot; then fine.  Its honest and its who they represent.  Really big business interests.  But to champion him as a needed leader for secure borders?  Cynical pandering at a sickening level.  They love open borders, Driggs loves open borders, and lying about it just disgusts me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Chamber wants to put out a mailer saying &#8220;We love Adam Driggs because he is good for Big Business here in Arizona&#8221; then fine.  Its honest and its who they represent.  Really big business interests.  But to champion him as a needed leader for secure borders?  Cynical pandering at a sickening level.  They love open borders, Driggs loves open borders, and lying about it just disgusts me.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone see the Rich Davis hit peice on Adam Driggs that hit the mailbox yesterday?  It has a picture of the State Capitol and says, &quot;Four years ago, we sent Adam Driggs to the State Capitol to look after it.  What happened?  HE SOLD IT!!!

Classic.  That should do some damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone see the Rich Davis hit peice on Adam Driggs that hit the mailbox yesterday?  It has a picture of the State Capitol and says, &#8220;Four years ago, we sent Adam Driggs to the State Capitol to look after it.  What happened?  HE SOLD IT!!!</p>
<p>Classic.  That should do some damage.</p>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pedro - You are my new best friend!! You could not be more right in the Treasurers race. Ducey was sweating like a sinner in church when talking about border issues. I would encourage anyone who wants to look into Ducey to google his name and see what you find. There are several articles about how he mismanaged Cold Stone.

At the end of the day we need a proven Conseverative like Verschoor to be the next Treasurer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pedro &#8211; You are my new best friend!! You could not be more right in the Treasurers race. Ducey was sweating like a sinner in church when talking about border issues. I would encourage anyone who wants to look into Ducey to google his name and see what you find. There are several articles about how he mismanaged Cold Stone.</p>
<p>At the end of the day we need a proven Conseverative like Verschoor to be the next Treasurer.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t the chamber also endorse Huppenthal and give him their &quot;Senator of the Year&quot; award?  Some conservative huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t the chamber also endorse Huppenthal and give him their &#8220;Senator of the Year&#8221; award?  Some conservative huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. You need to do the same research on the state treasurer&#039;s race; all the RINO&#039;s and open border crowd are supporting Ducey, including Jason Levecke, McCain, etc. On his Roundtable Politics interview last week he dodged the question about whether he has hired illegals and said he opposed a border fence! Thayer Vershoor is endorsed by Sheriff Joe and Sen. Pearce and needs our support!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. You need to do the same research on the state treasurer&#8217;s race; all the RINO&#8217;s and open border crowd are supporting Ducey, including Jason Levecke, McCain, etc. On his Roundtable Politics interview last week he dodged the question about whether he has hired illegals and said he opposed a border fence! Thayer Vershoor is endorsed by Sheriff Joe and Sen. Pearce and needs our support!</p>
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		<title>By: Holly R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...&quot;A day earlier, in Milwaukee, in front of an audience of more sympathetic businessmen, McCain had been asked how debate over the immigration bill was playing politically. “In the short term, it probably galvanizes our base,” he said. “In the long term, if you alienate the Hispanics, you’ll pay a heavy price.” Then he added, unable to help himself, “By the way, I think the fence is least effective. But I’ll build the goddamned fence if they want it.”

Shame on Sheriff Babeu and every other phony &quot;border-hawk&quot; in Arizona.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8221;A day earlier, in Milwaukee, in front of an audience of more sympathetic businessmen, McCain had been asked how debate over the immigration bill was playing politically. “In the short term, it probably galvanizes our base,” he said. “In the long term, if you alienate the Hispanics, you’ll pay a heavy price.” Then he added, unable to help himself, “By the way, I think the fence is least effective. But I’ll build the goddamned fence if they want it.”</p>
<p>Shame on Sheriff Babeu and every other phony &#8220;border-hawk&#8221; in Arizona.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What else can you expect?

Messer Hamer knows very well where public opinion lies, therefore his organization must wax duplicitous!

This tactic employed every election cycle within the &quot;Stupid&quot; Party has worked well for the business elites in the past.

And once the usual crowd who&#039;ve taken the &quot;hawk&quot; position during primaries and general elections attain power, you can rely upon the fact that they&#039;ll do a &quot;180&quot; and it&#039;ll be business as usual with the coyotes/human smugglers who provide them with their workforce, and the taxpayers with benefit burdens!

And to be blunt, those who cast their votes for the McCains, Romleys, Quails, Warings, Bittersmiths, Wards, and other &quot;Chamber Pots&quot; and &quot;Chambermaids&quot; deserve what they get!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What else can you expect?</p>
<p>Messer Hamer knows very well where public opinion lies, therefore his organization must wax duplicitous!</p>
<p>This tactic employed every election cycle within the &#8220;Stupid&#8221; Party has worked well for the business elites in the past.</p>
<p>And once the usual crowd who&#8217;ve taken the &#8220;hawk&#8221; position during primaries and general elections attain power, you can rely upon the fact that they&#8217;ll do a &#8220;180&#8243; and it&#8217;ll be business as usual with the coyotes/human smugglers who provide them with their workforce, and the taxpayers with benefit burdens!</p>
<p>And to be blunt, those who cast their votes for the McCains, Romleys, Quails, Warings, Bittersmiths, Wards, and other &#8220;Chamber Pots&#8221; and &#8220;Chambermaids&#8221; deserve what they get!</p>
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