Fri 9 Jul 2010
Part of the McCain campaign strategy to win?
Posted by Veritas Vincit under Campaigns & Elections[24] Comments
Spoiler like Ross Perot, Jim Deakin
A somewhat small and fuzzy picture … somewhat like the candidate. The audacity of stepping out of nowhere and expecting to play in the major league without paying your dues is astounding! No rookie ball player walks into a World Series playoff as the opening pitcher!
No rational or sane individual would consider this quest, especially considering they had no money with which to campaign. He must know that by spoiling this election and insuring the Primary victory of someone as generally despised as the McSamester his political future in Arizona would be DOA come August 25th.
So now that I’ve challenged his sanity, and offended those who drink his brand of Kook-Aid, let me propose a premise: Jim Deakin is doing this as a “marker” that McCain will have to pay-off once the senior senile Senator is once again safely ensconced in the US Senate and able to carry out Obama’s wishes.
Consider that either Deakin is actually part of the McCain strategy to siphon off any possible margin JD Hayworth might carve out (in which case Deakin could be on the receiving end of a huge political payoff) … or, Deakin is a gambler throwing the dice and throwing the election to McCain in hopes of a payday down the road.
Either way, Jim Deakin is not serious about winning the Primary and he’s continuing a ruse that he can win. It is both a positive thing that Glen Beck has awakened the voters to the domestic enemy within, and a dangerous thing that so many newly activated voters lack the political sophistication to see through the ruse Deakin is running on them.
Jim, if you’re out there – and I know you read this blog – please do Arizona and the country a favor and drop out of the race and either leave your followers to the remaining candidates to fight over or, consider the honorable thing in light of your rhetoric and fall in behind someone who can retire John McCain. If you do not withdraw, and Arizona along with America is saddled with 6 more years of McSame, it will be your name that is remembered.
You made your point, you educated voters, and you can’t win; now do what is honorable and withdraw from the field and allow someone who can win, to do so.
July 9th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
As much as I would love Deakin to get out he will not. He is am egomaniac with a wife who is controling the entire picture. I do not care what Jimmy Lee runs for in the future, I will be there to see him fail. The Leader of a very large Tea Party told me a poll was taken of the members and Deakin had 6% of the vote, and JD Hayworth had 96%. For months He and his wife did nothing but hang out at the Tea Parties thinking they would get the support. They made nuisances of themselves, people got so tired of them showing up expecting to speak, that many just stopped listening.
July 9th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Spoiler yes, Ross Perot no. Perot knew exactly what he was doing, little Jimmy Lee is a dufus with the tall hat.
July 9th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
I don’t think Jim has a chance but he has worked his tail off in his campaign and made quite an impression with his commitment among Republicans in the East Valley. A legitimate candidate? Isn’t legitimate in the eye of the campaigner? If he is in to the end, he won’t play a spoiler’s role. Right now, he may pull 3% but I’m afraid it’s McCain 51, JD 45, Deakin 3.
July 9th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
SuzanneC,
6+96=102 Be careful. With math skills like that you just may fall for a “free” government grant scam.
July 9th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
@ SuzanneC LOL. So true, so true.
How many articles are there calling for Deakin’s withdrawal now?…I can’t even keep track anymore. No matter how many people call for him to step down they guy will not budge. He’s in this race for himself, not Arizona. The fact that a small percentage of Tea Party members are supporting this martyr candidate is by itself a whole other problem.
Bottom line, “Deakin = Reason for 6 more years of McCain”.
July 9th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
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Ross Perot knew exactly what he was doing..
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Boy howdy, is THAT true. It wasn’t until AFTER the election that we all discovered that Ross Perot’s company EDS was named in the pre-Obama HillaryCare as the company that would be tasked with issuing and managing the “national electronic health card” – a contract worth BILLIONS.
Perot dutifully delivered the election to Bill Clinton by peeling votes off GHW Bush, enabling Bill Clinton to gain the POTUS with less than 50% of the vote.
July 9th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
What gets me is the arrogance of those like Deakin who think they can jump into politics and are entitled to start at the top. Instead of paying his dues like the rest of us, and running for state legislature or some other lower political office first, he thinks he should get to sail to the top office in the state. To those of us who have worked tirelessly in the trenches for years, it comes across as the epitome of arrogance.
July 10th, 2010 at 12:54 am
I am so happy that the only restriction to running for US Senate are those laid down by Arizona law. Collect 6,000 signatures and you too can run for US Senate.
Should John McCain prevail and be re-elected in November I wonder how many of you will be spending your time and energy supporting ranked choice voting so that *nobody* can call any candidate a spoiler.
http://www.google.com/search?q=ranked+choice+voting
July 10th, 2010 at 8:21 am
Frank,
“What gets me is the arrogance of those like Deakin who think they can jump into politics and are entitled to start at the top. Instead of paying his dues like the rest of us, and running for state legislature or some other lower political office first, he thinks he should get to sail to the top office in the state. To those of us who have worked tirelessly in the trenches for years, it comes across as the epitome of arrogance.”
Like McCain who went from zip to Congressman in one fell swoop?
Like Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina in California?
Welcome to America son, the land of opportunity. Sorry you haven’t figured out how to make it work for you.
July 10th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Stephen … McCain had daddy and grandpa’s naval tradition behind him and money.
Carly Fiorina has money and time in grade with HP (although I don’t much like her as she’s quite globalist in her perspectives).
Or how about the crook and carpetbagger Rick Renzi blowing in on the wind from Fairfax VA with lots of Franklin’s and making himself a “native” of CD1 (that was a crock)
Jim Deakin has *none* of the support or money required to even toss out the opening pitch of the playoffs much less be a major league starter.
Jimmy – let me be plain spoken here: Do what is honorable and right, get your Dumb A** out of the race pumpkin-head!
July 10th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Has anyone figured out who paid for Deakin’s robocalls last month?
July 10th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Stephen Kohut, It’s clear to anyone who follows your comments that either you support Jim Deakin, in spite of his complete lack of qualifications or you really believe that he has the right to be recognized as a legitimate candidate.
You keep talking about the debates and the following poll, as if there exists the possibility that Deakin will prove his ‘bonafides’ and ‘outshine’ the two real candidates. One can only wonder about your undying commitment to Jim that you and Sassia have over at Pinal County 912 Tea Party website.
I read a post where someone described the 4 real ‘ways’ someone can run for a statewide office. 1. Your own money, like Fiorina, Whitman or Bloomberg; 2. Other peoples’ money who have bought your soul, like McCain. (High priced ‘hooker’) 3. Celebrity status, like sports figure or broadcaster, like Hayworth or Chris Dudley in Oregon. 4. Work your way up, like going through the farm system. You prove your legislative and leadership skills, your ability to work with people. Pray tell, Stephen, WHICH way does Jim Deakin qualify for?
Do you recall that “Ladders.com” commercial where a bunch of fans at a tennis match congregate on the tennis court, WITHOUT any skills, understanding, let alone ability? This reminds me of Jim.
I find it surprising (not really)that you claim to be ‘uncommitted’ yet you NEVER point out any problems with Deakin, and you HAVE done so about both McCain and Hayworth.
You don’t even respond to the accusations of deception and lying leveled against Jim, or the campaign’s demand that other websites take down posts that ‘offend’ the Deakins. What gives?
July 10th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Glenn Beck’s my hero!,
The only qualification required to run for Senate are citizenship, age and a couple of thousand signatures. That’s it son. Nothing else. Do that and you are a legitimate, qualified candidate. Don’t like it? Get the law changed.
Regarding the candidates, I post based on my observations of them, their actions, positions, statements, etc. and, where I take issue, I make it known as I have regarding McCain and JD. My issues with McCain and JD far outway those with Deakin and my posts on the Senate race reflect that.
“You don’t even respond to the accusations of deception and lying leveled against Jim, or the campaign’s demand that other websites take down posts that ‘offend’ the Deakins. What gives?”
I don’t give the time of day to the mudslinging of others. I’m not part of Deakin’s campaign and see no reason respond. That would be the roll of Deakin’s campaign if they so choose.
July 10th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Steve ya got it wrong. Citizenship, age and signatures qualifies you for the ballot … it certainly does NOT make you a legitimate candidate.
1. Your own money.
2. Other peoples’ money.
3. Celebrity status.
4. Work your way up.
Deakin fits into none of the above categories. He’s just prancing about Arizona pretending to be a *legitimate* Senate candidate – which is his not.
Lets see, he can’t win. So he’s not in the race to win cause, well, he can’t.
And if he causes the Perot Effect and McCain wins, his future in Arizona is quite dim. That is unless someone somewhere is or has offered him something of value to remain in his hopeless campaign.
Now… who do you suppose stands to gain from all this? And who do you suppose would resort to this kind of insurance policy because if he wasn’t a US Senator, well … gee, he’d be just another kept man married to money.
July 11th, 2010 at 6:54 am
#Frank Says:
July 9th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
What gets me is the arrogance of those like Deakin who think they can jump into politics and are entitled to start at the top. Instead of paying his dues like the rest of us, and running for state legislature or some other lower political office first, he thinks he should get to sail to the top office in the state. To those of us who have worked tirelessly in the trenches for years, it comes across as the epitome of arrogance.
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Obama did it!
Obama was basically a low-level, left-wing organizer/agitator that, thanks in part to John McCain’s support by calling him “a good family man,” was able to disarm America’s early warning fear radar and fool the public into trusting him–no sane American would vote a socialist/communist into power!
Thanks McCain! Great genius political work!
Now, here’s Deakin’s strategy:
Hope that McCain defeats JD in the primaries.
Stay on the ballot.
When it comes time to vote, people look at the ballot and see McCain and Deakin.
People say, “no way on McCain. I’ll go for this other guy!”
Voila!
July 11th, 2010 at 9:21 am
VV,
Your definition of a “legitimate” candidate is the old song that we should vote for the one that can gather the biggest war chest. Exactly how do you think the country got into its current mess? Yep, by doing exactly that. It that is your determination for who to support and vote for then don’t expect any change in government. This nation was founded on citizen elected officials who were not well compensated for their service. We need “experienced” politicians in office like a drunk “needs” another drink. The solutions are not from in the beltway more of the same folks. The solutions will come from people who deal with and live in the real world and not the political class bubble of government.
July 11th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Stephen,
In your response to VV you say, “…old song that we should vote for the one that can gather the biggest war chest.”
No, you are patently mistaken! VV is NOT saying that. It should be a battle of ideas, and in THIS Senate race the CHOICE is extremely clear, and money doesn’t determine who we vote for. DON’T accuse VV of saying that!!
You condemn all politicians with experience, How dare you? Not ONE of our founding fathers came into the Const. Convention in 1787, telling everyone else that they don’t know what they are doing and that HE has all the answers! All the founders were INDEED experienced men of integrity, honest and had solid reputations.
Further, Trent Franks is THE most conservative Congressman, highly principled among many good men in the House. You FOOLISHLY accuse him and others of being ‘no good’. Many GOP members are doctors, businessmen, people who’ve mad payroll, etc. That “Throw all the bums out” is extremely foolish attitude, that’s way beneath your intellect!
IF you read the article by Samuel Adams, you find out much about the character of Jim Deakin. This is what makes him unfit to be in this race. By promoting Jim’s continued running in this race, you either NAIVELY believe that he will magically jump to a competitive position after the debates; OR you are a secret McCain supporter and want Jim to cost JD Hayworth the election. I’m confused. I don’t question either your intellect or character, but others might.
July 11th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Stephen … if you bothered to actually learn something about our nations founders, you would quickly learn that they were far from beginners or amateurs – they were highly educated, experience in their local legislative assemblies, and well read.
Jim Deakin can’t hold a match to the giants who forged our country and created our form of government.
And I *never* said a word about the biggest war-chest either.
Read carefully… I said “legitimate” that means prepared and experienced. Not a rank crack-pot like Deakin.
July 11th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Michael Holliday
Obama didn’t “come from nowhere” … research his biological father and his adopted father. Carefully learn all you can about his mother and her mother.
Obama was identified early in his life (I figure when he suddenly went from a mediocre nobody minority student at Occidental College to Columbia University – with a side trip to Pakistan at a time when no US citizen could obtain State Department permission for travel to that country.
Somehow a 20 year old transfer student from the US travels to places where no US citizen is allowed … and then winds up in Columbia University followed by Harvard???
No, Obama’s rise to power isn’t an accident.
As for Deakin? I personally think he’s waiting for the best offer he can get from either McCain (to stay in the race) or Hayworth (to get out of the race). In other words, the hero of the Tea Party is selling himself to the highest john.
but that’s just my opinion… and as we know, everyone has one.
July 12th, 2010 at 12:00 am
Veritas Vincint, here here! Well said my man! OBviously I know whereof you speak to Michael Holliday, their background are Marxist and Muslim extremists!
Unfortunately, it’s too late to get out of the race, at least as far as removing his name off the ballot. The debates will show the emptiness of his rhetoric, unless of course McCain’s people are helping prep him for the debate! That would explain the complete absence of ANY comments ANYWHERE on ANY page, by him, Adonia or ANY supporter. Except for Stephen Kohut, who isn’t “officially” a supporter, but really is!
Jim Deakin made a point of saying he signed up before the Tea Parties. True, so if he wasn’t inspired by Rick Santelli’s famous rant, AND Obama wasn’t EVEN inaugurated, WHY did he get off his duff? I am even more suspicious that he was prompted by forces that are quite sinister and cynical. The Tea Party movement, IF they find out there are events that took place AFTER the 2008 election because McCain saw the handwriting, Jim Deakin WILL have to move out of the area, maybe to Haiti or Mexico!
July 12th, 2010 at 6:32 am
VV,
I’ve got a rack of books on the nation’s founding and our founding fathers all of which are well read. The goal was a citizen legislature not a nearly noble officeholder. They expected citizens to seerve for a brief while and return to their lives and not to hold an unending series of politial offies. I suggest your spend more time reading publications from NCCS, the Federalist Papers, etc. and not the typical crap published as “history”.
Your top 3 items that make a “legitimate’ candidate were:
1. Your own money.
2. Other peoples’ money.
3. Celebrity status.
That is money, money and money son, which is about the size of the war chest, which got us in this mess.
July 12th, 2010 at 6:34 am
Glenn Beck’s my hero!,
As I have said before, I will make my decision in the Senate race about 1 week before the start of ealy voting on July 29. If whi I endorse and GOTV for matters so much to you, than just be patient.
July 14th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Sipmann, how many articles – how many of them were yours Tea Party Traitor.
Veritas Vincit – truth conquers all things – Hi Steven Robinson Radical American Patriot (RAP) also suspect you are ‘Glen Beck’s my hero.’ .
Glenn Beck’s my hero – Trent Franks – Mr. my brother has oil holdings so I’ll vote on his behalf!
McCain doesn’t listen
Hayworth has too much baggage
DEAKIN wins – it’s magic
July 23rd, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Stephen, I have a 2nd edition complete set of what is commonly referred to as “Elliot’s Debates”.
In fact, my personal library contains over 2 dozen books on U.S. history all original source publications written no later than 1843. These are all first to third editions and all date to the period of U.S. history from 1797 (my oldest book) to 1856 (my ‘newest’ book).