This is a reprint from the DiggersRealm.com.
Our prayers and thoughts go out to Rob’s family.
The body of Rancher Rob Krentz and his dog were found shot to death on his ranch. Krentz, who always was good-natured and willing to help people, had called in that he had found an illegal alien at one of his watering holes and was assisting him. That was the last that was heard from him before his body was discovered.
Rob Krentz was a lifelong rancher in Southeastern Arizona, 12 miles north of the U.S./Mexico border and 25 miles northeast of the city of Douglas. He was the father of three children. The ranch has been in his family for three generations, more than 100 years – since 1907, and sits on about 35,000 acres with 1,000 head of cattle. Running a ranch is hard work and with the influx of illegal aliens increasing, Rob was at ground zero of the stampede that is destroying the fragile desert landscape.
The Krentz family has received numerous threats in the past by illegal aliens trespassing on their property. In 2002, the family was physically threatened when one of them stumbled upon a group of 39 illegal aliens. They were told to get off the land and they made threats. The Border Patrol did catch the illegal aliens after they were called, but we all know that illegal aliens, if deported, come right back across.
In 1999, Krentz and his wife Susan did an interview with PBS when they came around asking about the issue of illegal immigration and its impacts on the local ranchers.
“We’ve been broken into,” Susan Krentz told PBS.
Rob and Susan Krentz
“One time,” Rob said “You know, we’ve personally been broke in once. And they took about $700 worth of stuff. And you know, if they come in and ask for water, I’ll still give them water. I – you know, that’s just my nature.”
In 2003, Congressman Tom Tancredo mentioned the challenges of the border ranchers, and in particular highlighted the the Krentz family’s plight.
“In the month of November, 2002, in the Tucson Sector of the U.S. Border Patrol … where the Krentz ranch is located, the Border Patrol apprehended 23,000 border crossers,” Tancredo wrote. “many people would suggest that the [apprehension] ratio is just about maybe one in five, and that is a very conservative estimate. … I think it is closer to one in ten”.
That means in that sector alone for one month, 8 years ago, the most conservative estimate is that 115,000 illegal aliens crossed the border in that one chunk of land in the Tucson sector. All of the illegals are unknown.
Tancredo notes that the Krentz’s did mention to him that they called the Border Patrol. In one instance illegal aliens had butchered one of his calves.
In February [2002] … a calf was butchered by illegal alien trespassers. Two men responsible were caught. They were tried. They were found guilty. They served a total of 51 days in jail. They were also ordered to pay $200 in restitution to the Krentz ranch. The Krentz ranch has not seen a cent of that money; and, of course, our best guess is they will not because these people have been released. They either came back into the population up here in the U.S.A. or returned to Mexico.
Tancredo goes into the cases of deliberate sabotage of the Krentz ranch’s water supply and the other impacts on the Krentz’s by illegal aliens. You can read more, where Tancredo dubs the Krentzs American Homeland Heroes
6 years after the PBS interview, in 2005, Krentz did an interview with KOLD as the number of illegal aliens exploded.
“We’re being over-run, and it’s costing us lots and lots of money,” Krentz said.
“We figured it up over the last five years and it’s cost us over $8 million,” Krentz said. “Cattle don’t like people walking through, so they move. So, cattle weight loss, destruction of fences, breaking our pipelines, they break them in two and (the pipes) run for two or three days before we find it.”
Krentz went on to say that when he was a boy he actually knew the few illegal aliens that came through looking for work, he said it’s nothing like that now as hundreds of unknown illegals stream across his land.
Rob Krentz is just one of the many people who live and work along our southern border. A tough, hard working man who was trying to make a living and doing what he loved. Those who support illegal aliens will talk about “human rights”, but where were the “human rights” when it came to Rob Krentz? Where was the government to protect our border and prevent this from happening, though they’ve been told time and time again? They didn’t protect his property rights, nor his civil rights.
This country failed Robert Krentz, his family and all who work for him. As they have failed countless families all across this country. The number of deaths is estimated to be from 15-25 deaths caused by illegal aliens each day in this country.
It is not known yet whether Krentz was specifically targeted or whether it was just one of the hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens who come across our border every year who have actual criminal records, but in the end does it matter? A hard working man was killed on his own land. And all for just trying to help out someone in need.
And that is simply outrageous.
Rest in peace Robert Krentz, the country will surely miss a great and kind man like you.
I am saddened to hear of the untimely death of a fellow Arizonan.
I am further saddened that as far as government policy on immigration that the prohibition on immigration (akin to drug prohibition) makes crimes like this more likely to occur.
If good decent immigrants could enter the US to work without breaking the law, they would. The current immigration status quo means that otherwise good people will break the law in order to find work.
The day immigration and marijuana (and all illegal drugs) are legalized will be the day crimes of all sorts will substantially drop. Legalization of immigration will put criminals out of work.
Prohibition of liquor funded criminal gangs in yesteryear. Prohibition of immigration and drugs fund criminal gangs now.
http://mises.org/daily/2269
Thane,
You can’t believe what you wrote. Your answer to our border problems is contrary to historical fact and naive. I’m sure it is Obama’s next push but what he doesn’t realize is he will damn sure be in the fight of his political life.
Thane, I’m sorry, but you are wrong.
The problem is not that we should let “good, decent” people enter the U.S. without restraint, but that criminals, wanting to take jobs they have not earned through a legal process, enter the U.S. mostly undeterred by law enforcement.
You make this death seem trivial, an accident of a poor immigration policy. It was a criminal act by a criminal willfully and knowlingly breaking the laws of our country to even be on Mr. Krentz’ property. With no defense from the federal government, it’s no wonder we need stricter state laws and broader enforcement in the vacinity of the border to stop these illegal aliens from additional crimes against the people of Arizona.
We don’t need liberal cries of “victimization.” The victims here are the people of our state, not the illegal immigrants who openly ignore our laws. Your opinion makes the ruthless murder of one of our citizens tolerable, considering the poor people just wanting a better life. The U.S. can not feed and clothe and house everyone in the world.
There is a process for entering our country and free entry is not the answer to our own unemployment problems. The rule of law should prevail.
The next Obamanation will be amenesty for murders, burglars, thieves, etc. to go along with his amnesty for criminal aliens.
I’m sure these would have been “good decent immigrants” until they SHOT A MAN TO DEATH on his own property! The “good” and “decent” people come accross the border the legal way without any casualties, Thane! This is the perfect example of why we SHOULD have strict laws about who we allow into our county. Your comment about legalizing marijuana explains why your logic is so fuzzy! Now we know.
Using your logic, let’s legalize child mollestation so that offenders no longer kill the children they kidnap. It would be safer for the kids! Incidentally, most of those crimes are committed while on some sort of illegal drug!
@2, my presence in Arizona is a result of the open immigration policy of yesteryear which my European ancestors took advantage of to move to a land of great opportunity. Through hard work my ancestors supported themselves and made America a better place. Modern day immigrants desire (but are denied) the same opportunity. If the current administration wishes to pursue a more open immigration policy that would be a benefit to everybody save those who are employed in the border patrol industrial complex.
America should welcome immigrants from Mexico for the same reason that Arizona should welcome immigrants looking to escape repressive regimes in Sacramento and New York City.
@3, A person who wants to work should not be termed a criminal because he was born in Mexico City and not Dallas. Arbitrary designations based on birthplace are a waste of time and money to enforce. America can’t eliminate real criminals if it makes all immigrants into criminals.
Your suggestion that government should pass more laws and spend more money on immigration enforcement benefits nobody but the Border Patrol and US Bureau of Prisons. It hardly protected Mr. Krentz or his dog. There are always a small percentage of people who are willing to murder in order to smuggle some prohibited item to someplace where it is wanted. Criminal smuggling organizations benefit from the current status quo and would continue to benefit from greater immigration enforcement.
The victim here is anybody who dies as a result of laws that prohibit immigration. I believe that America can easily support all the people who currently reside in the US and then some so long as government discontinues providing welfare and education for free.
Tolerating the current system of immigration prohibition resulted in a preventable death. I’d prefer that the US adopt a system where peaceful immigration will be possible so that law enforcement can focus on murderers and not gardeners.
Thane your logic is completely missing. Even with a more open process certain people will still cross illegally. Sopme have been deported as criminals or for other reasons and will never be allowed to enter the US under even the most liberal policy. To say this death would have been prevented if we has open borders is wrong. We have to secure our borders to keep criminals and possible terrorists out. I personally have no problem with a guest worker program but first we most secure out borders. Lastly you don’t want the government to provide free education?
@5, Jumping from legalizing otherwise peaceful activity as immigration to legalizing molestation is a stretch too far.
Crimes of any sort are crimes regardless of of what substance the person is under. Vehicular murder as a result of intoxication is no more or less a murder in my eyes because that person drank 5 shots of vodka or smoked 5 cannabis cigarettes beforehand or failed to sleep for 48 hours.
@7, If immigration were allowed such as a guest worker permit then 100% of immigrants who have no criminal history will not evade the immigration authorities. Convicted criminals will continue to attempt to illegally cross the border. It will be a much secure border if the ratio of illegal border crossers is 1 crosser for every 1 Border Patrol agent on duty than today’s situation where there are 20 or more crossers working to cross the border for every agent on duty. Making it possible to be legal allows for a more secure border because Phil the Border Patrol agent isn’t trying to arrest and deport garden variety immigrants.
No I don’t want the government to give away free education. Education is no more or less a valuable resource than food, cars or electricity. Government should not be taken from Peter in the form of taxes in order to give Paul a free education.
Socialized education is bad for the same reason that socialized medicine is bad.
Thane,
I agree with much of what you say, but this is not a good example to use. Simply put, it strikes a nerve when people are shot dead on their own property.
Once US innocent citizens start dying at the hands of trespassers, we enter into a different discussion that should involve the military on the border. This cannot stand. Hopefully Brewer and Napolitano will step up. Enough is enough.
My heart goes out to Rob’s wife and family. I wondered to myself how I woud feel having to go home where my husband was murdered. How would I feel? And then I wept.
Bob’s tragic death doesn’t end here for his family. How would anyone feel about going out to check the cattle or the fences after this? How much terror will his wife endure from this day on?
Any more answers to someone as naive or should I say “idealistic” as Thane only gives him credit where it doesn’t belong. No law or lack of a law causes a just man to take an innocent life ( particularly on his own land) for no reason. I don’t care what race or ethnicity that person may be.
America welcomes immigrants who will respect OUR laws, respect OUR people and not try to change our nation into something it is not. We do not need ANYONE from ANY country who can be drvien to cold blooded murder to take what he wants.
We in this country have every right to expect that our freedoms will be preserved and upheld. When we justify murder, terrorism, theft- what have you, we then lose our souls…
Somebody please explain to the neophyte that the law does not create murderers.
There is a big difference between coming in the front door through legal immigration and breaking down the back door (tresspassing). I am absolutely sickened to read such rhetoric.
God Speed Rob and to your family as well…..
This is very sad news.
I’m very sorry that the FBI has chosen to raid a Christian group today under the pretense that they are a threat because of what’s written on their website. Go read MeCHa documents–no–just read the headlines in border towns to understand the real meaning of a threat. Shall we expect every liberal White House administration to make “examples” of citizens who openly criticize their politics and turn a blind eye to the thousands of illegal aliens who kill and maim and pose a real and present danger in this country? It’s unacceptable and gross that liberals take such aggressive steps to criminalize conservative voters while real violence–SEUI thugs, G8 riots, attacks on border patrol, PETA blood baths, murdered police–is constantly perpetrated by the people THEY have brainwashed.
Well-intentioned immigrants will take appropriate steps to come into this country legally. Chinese, Somali, Mexican, I can’t wait to welcome them on those terms. Otherwise, don’t expect Arizonans to wallow in misapplied sympathy while the state is experiencing a wholesale invasion. This situation can’t stand. People with property on the border deserve better from this state and from the Federal government.
Why should be allow citizens of another country to walk into our country and violate our laws? Citizens of other countries should stay home, become patriots and demand change in their own government!! Coming the US is the easy way out. Build the fence! Build it high! Criminalize illegal immigration!
Decent law abiding citizens do not invade another country as the illegals have done!
Get it right, these are criminally minded
thugs who care nothing about the law or
about other people’s rights except their
own needs and wants.
We must unite as Americans and fight for
our sovereignty. We must demand OUR government protect OUR borders as they
are protecting the borders of So. Korea,
Afghanistan and other countries. We must
demand they stop illegal immigration and:
NO AMNESTY FOR ANY CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS!
@10, the black market caused by the prohibition of immigration will continue whether the people at the border are US Army soldiers or US Border Patrol agents. As for as using US Army soldiers, what country would you recommend they be redeployed from in order to guard the US border?
Further I would disagree that the law does create murderers. Bad laws and bad law enforcement cause completely innocent people to be put to death. Bad laws create perverse incentives and unintended consequences that result in murders that would not have occurred if prohibition against otherwise non-violent actions were not present.
The difference between an all but completely locked front door and a back door is a completely arbitrary set of rules. If the rules allowed for lawful immigration there would be no basis for your claim of trespass. If the government makes peaceful immigration possible there will be still be crime, just less of it. Make peaceful immigration all but impossible and you will create a black market where peaceful bystanders such as Rob Krentz are collateral damage in the war to prevent immigration.
I think that there are legit arguments on both sides of the illegal immigration debate however I first with to say my prayers are with Rob’s family. Sounds like a decent hardworking man and his death is a severe tragedy.
On the debate side of things, there are a few things that most Americans agree with. 1) being that the border needs to be secured. 2) internal enforcement of our laws has to happen. 3) Violent criminal aliens must be kept out of our country. The order of these events and what to do with some of the non-criminal aliens (especially those deeply rooted in our economy and society) is where the argument begins to explode.
I highly doubt that anyway who cries has NO AMNESTY has actually read many of the bills for comprehensive immigration reform. They have been branded as AMNESTY and anyone who suggests anything near comprehensive reform is so eloquently branded a RINO. Let’s review what most comprehensive reform legislation has suggested:
- Securing the borders
- Touch-back program where every illegal must return to their home country and apply for a temporary visa
- must pay back taxes and a fine
- must learn English
- Is given the chance to become a citizen BUT only through the current naturalization process and MUST GO TO THE BACK OF THE LINE. The perk is that they actually do get a spot in line but they still must go through the naturalization process and give up citizenship in their home country.
- Must pass a criminal background check. If you don’t pass you are gone!!
- Guest worker program where you must have a work sponsor. If that employment is terminated or if you commit a crime you are gone.
- STRICT interior enforcement of all current laws. Unlike the current eVerify this enforcement will actually work since it is comprehensive and not just a band-aid to a severe problem.
Some call this amnesty. I do not believe this is anywhere near the definition of amnesty but you can call it what you want, it is the right way to solve the issue. It is not ideal but we are not liberals and should not be living in some ideal utopia. We are conservatives and we should be coming up with solutions rather than fairytale dreams which not only will never happen but will end up harming our economy and citizens even further.
PLEASE NOTE that I am suggesting my opinion of a solution. If you disagree I would love to read your thoughts but please be as thoughtful and courteous as I have been. This is a huge problem that needs to be solved and I think we can solve it. However if people who both claim to be conservatives cannot even come together on a blog to exchange ideas then we have much bigger problems than illegal immigration.
Once again I pray for Rob’s family and hope justice finds those responsible. I hate to use an article regarding his murder as a political debate forum but I believe this problem is a big one and hopefully we can resolve the issue soon so good people’s lives are not taken.
Debate the lack of an effective immigration policy as illegals and other criminals from the south continue killing Americans on our own land and we do nothing.
YADA YADA YADA YADA. Less words from your computer keyboard and more action on the ground.
God save us from our enemies, foreign and domestic.
The law does not create murderers any more than Wells Fargo Bank or the IRS create delinquencies. Breaking the law is wrong, even if you don’t agree with it. There are many laws I don’t agree with but adhere to because that is the price of freedom in this awesome Country of ours! There is a very beautiful process by which laws are created and changed in this Country. We have as many laws as we have ideas about those laws. If you don’t like them, help change them, but do no break them in the meantime or justify them being broken by others.
With all sincerity, my family is deeply saddened by the news of such a good citizen’s life being taken and our prayers are with Rob Krentz’s family. There is no justification for what happened to him.
“I’m very sorry that the FBI has chosen to raid a Christian group today under the pretense that they are a threat because of what’s written on their website.”
Of course Jane means the Hutaree who apparently were also selling pipe bombs to people and want to enforce a Christian theocracy on America. Yes, what a wonderful ‘Christians group.’
Having said that, I have seen to many FBI actions to believe without significant evidence the charges that get circulated. The FBI has a history of questionable prosecutions. In a similar way I am not ready to rush to judgement in believing this tragic crime was perpetrated by illegal immigrants based on the shaky report in diggersrealm.
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Thane Eichenauer Says:
March 28th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
@10, the black market caused by the prohibition of immigration will continue whether the people at the border are US Army soldiers or US Border Patrol agents.
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1) What strawman are you arguing? No one is proposing prohibition of immigration.
ILLEGAL immigration’s the problem, not legal immigration.
LEGAL immigrants, workers, tourists, visitors, fly in, drive in, bus in, boat in, all nice and civilized, with passports and visas, get a “Welcome to America,” and “Have a nice day,” from immigration officers at ports of entry.
Legal immigrants and workers have no need to skulk around across remote ranches killing ranchers so they can’t be identified to law enforcement.
Thane,
Since Mexico has decrimilized drugs, you can move right down to that wonderful paradise and toke way to your heart’s content. Don’t let the gate at the border hit you on the way out. I’m sure Mexico has a wonderful open imigration policy.
Is everyone positive that this crime was committed by the illegal aliens that Mr. Krenz helped? The fact that he was last heard of helping an illegal alien may have no connection at all to his murder.I’m not taking sides but this would seem to be a time to withhold judgement until the truth is known. The loss of a family memeber, neighbor, friend or even a nodding aquainteant is sad enough. Let’s not use let our emotions cause folke to resort to the historical kind of justice that Cochise County has been know for in the past. This crime leaves everyone vulnerable, lt’s just hope that the right person, regardless of race or residence status, is brought to justice.
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“Of course Jane means the Hutaree who apparently were also selling pipe bombs to people and want to enforce a Christian theocracy on America. Yes, what a wonderful ‘Christians group.’
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“Apparently” requires the 72-hour Rule of sit around and wait for better reporting. ESPECIALLY with THIS incompetant and hysterical media. It’s too up-front loaded with boilerplate stereotypes.
If further verifiable info reveals that this rises to the sedicious and violent level of Obama’s Chicago political mentor, William Weatherman Ayers actually producing, planting and detonating pipe bombs, then okay, we have a story.
What was Ayer’s comment? “Free as a bird, guilty as hell.”
I feel it very sad that living in the state I grew up in is no longer safe,fear walking out in the desert as I have done growing up.
Fear even when i’m at home alone at night.
We should not have to contend with a life where we feel unsafe. It’s time there is Law Enforcement, Border Patrol or our TROOPS are HERE to protect us.
Thane Eichenauer Says:
March 28th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
@2, my presence in Arizona is a result of the open immigration policy of yesteryear which my European ancestors took advantage of to move to a land of great opportunity. Through hard work my ancestors supported themselves and made America a better place. Modern day immigrants desire (but are denied) the same opportunity.
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A lot of people got denied entry back during this “open policy” even in “yesteryear.” Europeans were turned back by the thousands every year, and European immigrants were discriminated against, some favored blatently more than others.
But that’s all irrelevent. Today’s laws are what count, not “yesteryear’s.”
Who wants to make an argument for tolerating illegal entry by an appeal to “yesteryear’s laws which included legal toleration of slavery?
Times have changed, and frankly in terms of American national progress, most for the better for everyone.
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Thane Eichenauer Says:
March 28th, 2010 at 11:55 am
The day immigration and marijuana (and all illegal drugs) are legalized will be the day crimes of all sorts will substantially drop.
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Frankly, I don’t see how any Americans can with any shred of conscience take even a single toke of weed or snort one line of coke knowing the money they used to pay for that goes to viciously violent criminal gangs who wreck every place they get into, murder and terrorize decent people who just want to live in peace, attacks and corrupts the justice system from cops to courts, and uses up poor people as disposable drones to carry drugs inside their bodies, thrown across the borders in volume, like cannon fodder, knowing only a percentage get through – some will get arrested, some will die in agony as the drugs inside them eat through the bags and flood their systems.
All this warm huggy about “saving the rainforests,” and “one with the down-trodden” “donate to help the poor” and so forth, but where’s the “STOP taking those drugs you disgusting piece of exploitative self-centered, trash?”
Than’e globalist attitude and his desire to mold America to HIS ideals indicates to me he smokes way too much weed and needs to move over to cartel country where it is easy to get.
That rancher helped a hell of a lot of people and had he just shot the sons of bitches and buried them, he would be alive and America would be better off!
Cane we revoke Thanke’s immigrant status.
What a dumbass.
Looks like a few typos.
Thane, please name the countries in the world that place no controls on who enters and it all works out peachy for the people already there. Show us the societies that thrive with completely open borders.
Then come back and put some substance on your abstractions.
I was there for the KVOA (NBC) affliate interview. Surprise…surprise… KVOA edited out the part where the rancher interviewed laid the blame on the real culprits… the politicians who have allowed this to happen.
Also… the BP had a helicoptor out there. The murderer was spotted. His description and what he was doing was radioed out.. Douglas BP agents were there… but again…SURPRISE, SURPRISE… (NOT!!) he apparently was allowed to slip back into Mexico… where, of course, Hillary’s new-found friends WERE NOT waiting to arrest him.
Folks like Gabrielle Giffords, John McCain,
Janet Napolitano and Barack Obama have Rob Krentz’s blood on their hands.
yes he was killed by an illegal!! i feel so sorry for his family!! NO AMNESTY!! it has to stop!! i don’t want to hear ITS OUR FAULTS because he wanted to cross the border for money bla bla bla WE HAD IT!! #1 making pot legal for medical use in some states has put a hurting on ol Mexico!! making it legal stops them from growing it for free and bringing it over here selling it and sending the cash back to Mexico to never be seen again!! KEEP OUR MONEY HERE GROW OUR OWN!! THE ILLEGALS NEED TO BE GONE!! time for operation wetback just like after WWII to get our vets back to work!!! we have done it before lets do it again!!
wanumba,
You are hitting the Glenn Beck stuff way to hard and it is rotting your brain.
The death of Mr. Rob Krentz should have never happened.
Every Arizona State elect and every Federal Congressional elect in Washington should pray to God for forgiveness because of their incompetence.
They all had prior knowledge of the massive smuggling of drugs and illegal aliens crossing American ranches and the threat to life these folks have to live with everyday.
I’m sure Obama will say to all of America…now let me be CLEAR…its sad this fellow American had to die,..but…let me be Clear….ah..the problem with the drug war in Mexico and the problem with illegal aliens is a harder fix than the health care issue but “let me be CLEAR”….
At this time, all we can do is pray and support this family and pray for all other in harms way.
It is apparent our elected officials will do nothing to solve this problem, now or in the near future…..
now, let me be CLEAR;
The only hope for Americans; ‘remove all incumbents and replace them…..if you been in office for 50 years…you been there ‘way to damn long…..
Bill Jamison is correct. Thane is living in a utopia of his own construct: and Todd is just an asshat.
Thane, This is NOT MEXICO!! Only people promoting a one world government would endorse open borders, read that to mean Marxists! The greatness of this nation is based, in part, on our unique national identity AND the opportunities to pursue LEGAL work. We are NOT opposed to LEGAL immigration, just a system that works.
I can relate to the family of Tom Krentz. My daughter was raped by an illegal alien in Portland. Perhaps I should consider Thane an accomplice after the fact!?
Steven Robinson
Thane,
Your ignorance is showing! Your European ancestors DID NOT/COULD NOT have entered this country without going through a much STRICTER process than we have now. There were a lot of requirements to become an American citizen that have been tossed out. Our borders are much more POROUS than ever before and our social programs are geared towards helping the “poor illegal immigrant”. Even our census is a joke, being manipulated to create more openings for Democrats in Congress. Look at the ads practically begging ILLEGALS to get counted. They are NOT a ploy to find them and deport them, though they should be!
@36, Jess, you are quite correct. VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBENTS!
There is an ad on TV showing women (all very well fed) standing outside the gate of a Tucson charity organization’s complex. The voiceover says that the organization needs money because they are having to turn away these poor women. Ever notice how in our welfare state, these “poor single mothers” and their predominantly illegitimate children are quite well fed, draped in bling, and wearing top of the line, expensive sports shoes? Yes, we have a class system in this country. If you have no class, you don’t have to do anything but sit around on your fat ass raking in the benefits, while the rest of us work to pay for not only our own needs but for your entitlements as well.
I never thought I would live in a country like this. How niave I have been. My heart goes out to this good man’s family. God save us
Big Meeting today at 11am at Douglas Border Patrol Station with Gabriel Giffords, Lets get Rob Krentz’s death not be in vain but a beginning to a change!
It’s a shame that a hard working “American Citizen” can be shot and killed on his own property and the goverment will more than likely look the other way. If Bob had shot the illegal alien you can bet your boots it would have been the top story. “Poor Immigrant killed while trying to find a better life!” Agriculture People let’s not let this go unnoticed. My thoughts and prayers are with the family.
God Bless the Krentz family and I hope they take this story national.
Let’s stop the bashing and look to the good one man can do.
Rob was a good friend for many years. He stood for his beliefs and we all should learn what a great man can stand for in such s troubled world. Unlike everything written so far, he did positive things to make the world better. We will miss him.
Is there and address where we can send help to the family to protect the many ranchers whose own lives seem to be at risk.I thought the Minutemen were helping to protect some of these remote ranches what has their response been? or has the powers” that be” disbanded them?Lets face it we live in a world that the laws protect anyone but a hard working rancher,so much for the “code of the West”I have a small ranch in Catron County New Mexico,the largest county in the state,the 4000 people who live here are ready for the trouble that will surely come our way .When people in power ignore the law or break the law then good people must enforce the laws as they are written without fear,let’s just enforce them at whatever cost.So much for homeland security..I have ranch dogs here and hope if I was attacked they would defend their home and owner just as this dog did…I tip my hat to that dog.Maybe we should take all ill tempered dogs that are in the city and cause people fear and train them to protect our borders.
The murder of that rancher is terrible but that type of thing will just keep getting worse until we get representatives in Washington who are willing to show some guts.
I am an avid supporter of LEGAL immigration and I adamantly condemn ILLEGAL immigration!
First priority is to secure the border in some viable manner. No experimental electronic sensor system…use proven systems instead! They are out there and they do work! Allow, actually encourage, private citizens to make armed arrests of illegals. Stop prosecuting border patrol agents for doing their jobs!
Second, enforce, and strengthen, the law! Employers who hire illegal immigrants must lose EVERYTHING they own when found out! Boards of directors of corporations who hire illegals should be subject to massive financial loss AND time in the general population of your federal pen.
Third, resurrect the “Operation Wetback” to round up and deport all illegal immigrants no matter what.
Do those things and the problem of illegal immigration and the associated crime will almost dry up.
Thane, the US already has several guest worker programs, as well as several levels of visas for various levels of workers and students. To claim we need yet another guest worker program is misguided. What we need is to clean up the corruption and misuse of all our existing visa programs! America is very generous in the number of legal immigrants it brings in each year, more than any other country; and yet time and time again we get liberal and bleeding hearts claiming we need to do more and open our borders to “help” the poor from other countries overrun with corruption – people who very often don’t want to melt into the great melting pot of America, but instead want to come here and milk our system and disrespect our laws and citizens. Times have changed, and the world is a much different place from when your ancestors came here. It is time for libs and open border fans to stop dredging up the past and using the whole “our nation is a nation of immigrants” meme…yes, it is, and most of those immigrants came in the FRONT door, legally and responsibly. They worked hard, they contributed to society, they learned the language (instead of rudely and arrogantly insisting everything be translated into their language and demanding those already here change their ways to accommodate the new arrivals!) and they helped create America. What illegal aliens today want, at least by what I’ve seen, it to milk our system – take all they can in federal (taxpayer) assistance and medical care, while shipping the dollars they earn working for cash back to their home country. How does that help America? If you can’t enter through the front door and prove you want to be here and will melt into our melting pot, then stay in your own country and fix it! America is going to turn into a third world hellhole if we don’t stop the out of control illegal crossings of our borders and start putting the safety of our citizens first. I think every land owner on the border should be allowed to shoot first and ask questions later of any trespasser they find on their land. Maybe if the land owners start fighting back and doing the job the government won’t do, this border war will finally get big enough that the wimps in Washington who care more about votes than protecting our country will have to sit up and take notice, and maybe, finally, put the military on the border. If Mexican military can cross our border and hold our border agents at gunpoint as a distraction so drug cartels can get across without detection, then our military should be there to engage and put a stop to it before it gets worse. How many Americans need to be killed or have their property destroyed by arrogant illegals who feel entitled and don’t respect a darn thing about our citizens before we the people stand up and put a stop to it?
My heartfelt condolences and prayers go out to the family and friends of the man (and his dog) shot down by a criminal illegal alien. May he rest in peace and may his murderer be found and punished to the full extent of the law. And may the citizens of this nation please start paying attention to what is really going on and not let our elected officials get away with another amnesty – it is time to enforce the immigration laws on the books without anymore delays and without anymore apologies!
Laura,
Maybe you should stop judging what people in poverty have based on a commercial.
Sue the illegal alien support organizations such as: Sal Reza of ‘Tonatierra’,'Somos America’criminal Elias Bermudes and Lydia Bustamante of Puente,’Border Action’,ACLU, ‘Chicanos Por La Causa’ ‘La Raza’ Mary Rose Wilcox, and the bleeding heart Church leaders -for aiding and abetting those criminal aliens they are encouraging to violate our laws by entering this country to
murder, rape, and steal.
Shame, shame on all those so-called leaders!
Their ludicrous demands for civil and human rights do not apply to the poor Americans who suffer the consequences of the pro-open borders crowd. Charge these people as seditious and traitors to America for their role in the violation of our laws!
Yes, I want them to consider the civil and
human rights of the hard working Americans in our own country! Enough is enough!
Can someone provide a link to a pic of Giffords with her hands somewhat raised? I know I saw one recently, but I can’t find it now.
I’d like one of McCain, too.
Thanks.
Thane,
You repeat the typical usless liberal drivel. Your ancestors came here and succeeded. No one has a problem with that…because they did it LEGALLY. We need a system in place, and to bypass it makes that person a crminal. The country of Mexico currently has a solution to it’s high unemployment rate: it’s called “America.” If we had a border wall, or the military there and illegal aliens were prevented from crossing, then Mexico would be forced to deal with it’s unemployed, instead of sending them to us. Problem solved. Legalize marijuana? Look at the condition that the country of Holland is currently in, with it’s out of control addiction rate, and high taxes due to all the clinics that now have to attend to the people. Sure is a great success story, isn’t it? And if you legalize marijuana, you know as well as I do that within 10 years, the liberals will be crying for cocaine to be legalized, etc.
If Mexico is so great, move there.