Tue 9 Mar 2010
For the last three years conservative organizations, bloggers, and commentators have railed against John McCain. In their eyes McCain is guilty of the greatest sin, an endorsement of the other party’s platform that big government is good government. This hatred led to a hope that a strong challenger would surface at the right time to take McCain down. While they waited they laid the groundwork and collected enough evidence to show why McCain is bad for Arizona.
Then comes 2010 and JD Hayworth announces an official challenge to John McCain. There is a brief excitement then silence. Hayworth’s name is mentioned rarely on Hot Air, RedState, Powerline, and Townhall, just to name a few, but then a fizzle. I have my google reader set to 40 conservative blogs across the country and it has been all quiet on the western front. Why?
Maybe it is because ObamaCare is an all consuming issue and conservatives don’t have time to hype a candidate. Nope. While courageously attacking Obamacare they also spent considerable focus on candidates across the United States. Got Rubio? They also had time to expose a ton of lefty dirty laundry contributing to the greatest political fall from grace in recent memory. So, that’s not it.
I have been especially surprised at the lukewarm support (nationally) for Hayworth, given the level of animosity that conservatives have for McCain.
Here is some problems that I have observed…..
After losing in 2006, in a race Republicans should have won, conservatives were understandably perturbed at Hayworth. After running a piss poor campaign we had to cede our district to a sign stealing grandpa (Mitchell). I was not very happy that after his loss, rather accepting responsibility for the campaign he went around blaming other GOP leaders, like Shadegg for their anti-earmark campaigns. You lost it, you did not work hard enough…period.
Second, I won’t hash out the spending charges leveled against Hayworth…mainly because being in congress does require “some” compromise. The fact of the matter is he has a 97.5% lifetime rating with the ACU and that is pretty good in my book. The spending and corruption charge, although fabricated by the left and endorsed by McCain, has gained some traction. It has permeated into the Arizona electorate consciousness, being a weed that has been very hard to kill.
Third, the perception and persona of Hayworth is lacking in the “it” category. Unfortunately Hayworth has some character trait problems. I have heard some negative comments in my political eavesdropping around the state. The common complaints are arrogance and that he is a bully. My personal experience has shown him to be a really nice guy but I only met him briefly in passing. Still, a problem.
I think it is important to candidly talk about these problems. It is important to accept these issues as real obstacles in our goal of getting rid of McCain. Candidates have a very real problem with being surrounded by yes men and uber positive consultants. Luckily, Hayworth has a pretty good team with some people that I really respect. McCain has not been terrible on reducing spending but sweet sassy malassy he has been terrible in other ways, unforgivable ways. In that vein know that I am desperate for a Hayworth victory but it is important not to gloss over real problems and if it takes one person on this blog to keep the heat up a little then fine, I am young enough and maybe reckless enough just to do it….
March 9th, 2010 at 9:07 am
You point out that Hayworth lost reelection, but don’t bother mentioning that it was one of a few races across the country that the Democrats targeted and put millions into. Nor do you mention the fact that McCain lost the presidential election, even though he had the full support of the GOP behind him, all their money, and Palin as his runningmate.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:42 am
I have been disgusted with Sen. McCain ever since he came out and supported background checks on private sales at gun shows and mandatory trigger locks. Since that time, McCain has supported enough anti-liberty, pro-big government legislation, such as Cap & Trade, Kennedy Care, McCain/Feingold, just to name a few, that I am inclinded to support J.D. even though he has his baggage. I am not enthusiastic about supporting him; however, I have so much disdain for McCain and his progressive politics, that I think ensuring his defeat on August 24th is the most important issue facing our country. We will never get Congress in to rehab to fix its addiction to spending without sending that message.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Locke – maybe you don’t understand that this is a PRIMARY election… not a national election… and JD has a huge base of support in likely Arizona primary voters. Polls have shown approval for JD at 76% and McCain at 10%. The era of McCain is over. Arizona voters have awakened and JD is our choice to move onward. Retire the RINO.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Grandpa joe,
What are these polls you speak of?
I don’t support mccain or anything but I have seen anything with his approval rating that low among GOP voters…
Also Locke why must we address these shortcomings? You point them out but how does that help anything against mccain? Rubio is so talked about because no one knows much of anything about him. JD has a 12 year voting record and years of radio rants to be picked at
March 9th, 2010 at 10:20 am
I’d have a hard time having a problem with J.D. based on this post. Two out of three charges are followed with an admission that they are either hearsay or fallacy. In the remaining charge, fresh in our mind is the 2008 campaign in which John McCain d-e-f-e-n-d-e-d Obama against conservatives–he didn’t just fail to work hard. Again, its difficult to feel offended by J.D. with John McCain as the opponent.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:15 am
A very old tactic.
McCain has such a bad record you can not effectively defend him, soooo, you engage in attacks on his opponent.
Surprise…Hayworth isn’t perfect!
Magnify any flaws in Hayworth. Yeah, that’s Locke’s tactic.
Should we compare the candidates? Nooooo, Locke doesn’t want that.
Either McCain, or perfection, is Locke’s standard.
Since nobody is perfect, surprise, Locke supports McCain.
Now, I suspect Locke will try to deny he is supporting McCain, and that he is merely against anyone who opposes McCain (notice the distinction).
March 9th, 2010 at 11:30 am
We are stuck with Obama in part due to the Repubs poor candidate. Not that Obama was great but McCain was a bland alternative. There is just something that turns me off about JD. I’ll vote for him but I’m afraid we will be stuck with McCain again because we don’t have a better alternative.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:41 am
You are all so rabid that you lost the whole point, this guy is pointing out the flaws in HIS candidate and asking for help.
Rope…more rope…yep, more rope!
March 9th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Apparently, only RINOs question the candidacy of J.D. Hayworth. That’s why he’ll never be senator. Just be cause something should happen, doesn’t mean it will.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
I found the bully comment pretty ironic, in light of the fact that the #1 bully nationwide in Republican politics today is John McCain.
March 9th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
I know JD p e r s o n a l l y. He is a good guy, he is very intelligent and knowled geable and a fiscal Conservative. Most of the people who comment on him simply rehash what the media said about JD and it’s negative and untrue 99% of the time. There is a saying in another language: slander will always stick to the targeted individual. How true…
March 9th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Uhmm…I am voting for Hayworth. I just thought these things were worth discussing. It is important that we get these things out in the open. Should we wait right before the primary to address them? The correct response is to substantively prepare your answers to Hayworth’s critics. It also allows Hayworth to respond to critics….let us sink their ship before it sets sail.
Maybe there is some valid criticism on my post, as in regards to purpose.
March 9th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Hatshipsuit,
Comments like yours are so pointless. Who cares… Its not what you know its what you can prove (this is from denzel washington in Training Day) a lot of people that are hated in this country are nice in person. But image matters, perception matters.
Going on some little rant is nice for you and all but does nothing.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
I’m still laughing. If Locke hadn’t come out with the clarification, it would only have been a matter of time before all the maniacs would have been accusing him of working for John McCain and making stuff up about him like they knew who he was. Funny!
March 9th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Perhaps there is lukewarm response toward Hayworth because he was very nearly in jail for his actions as a Congressman. Then there is the thing the he just unlikable to many people. I want to tear my ears off every time I hear J.D. say, “In the fullness of time…” and, “let’s welcome him home.”
Maybe the issue is that J.D. is going up against an extremely effective incumbent when in comes to fighting Obama. And in a striking difference to J.D., everyone I know that knows McCain actually really really likes him. I’ve met very few people that know J.D. that nothing but glowing reports about him as a person.
Maybe too, the rest of the country is trying to replace Democrats with Republicans, and splitting hairs between two Republicans is just not that much of a priority.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Jacklyn, we’re not splitting hairs between Republicans. We are trying to elect the Republican, JD Hayworth over the democrat candidate.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
@observe: The “Bully” label came from when Hayworth and Mitchell both met with the Arizona Republic. The Republic, who had always supported Hayworth until that election, after talking to both of them, were so mad at JD for the way he treated them, rewrote the piece, backing Mitchell, and calling out JD.
March 9th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
@Observer. LOL, indeed, my favorite thing is when you guys call Senator McCain a democrat. That’s when you guys show your lack of logic, and rely on grandiose statements. Sure J.D. is more conservative in some ways than McCain, but that doesn’t make him a Democrat. I’d rather take the guy that voted AGAINST increasing government with Bush, rather than J.D. who voted all the way down the line to increase government.
How is that conservative?
March 9th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
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March 9th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Jacklyn M.,
Please name another conservative that almost swithced parties after losing the 2000 presidential primary, voted against all the Bush tax cuts, was seriously considered for the DEM VP slot in 2004, is pro cap and tax with his own bill , pro amnesty with his own bill(McCain-Kennedy), voted for the $700B TARP boondoogle, only shreds other Republicans when campaigning, … wait, doesn’t that sound just like a Democrat? Sure does. Don Bivens would be happy to have McRINO finish his walk across the aisle and run under the donkey banner for Don’s AZ DEM’s. McRINO wouldn’t even have to change his positions to fit right in with Don’s bunch.
March 9th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Jacklyn M.
If Hayworth almost went to jail, how come he was never indicted for anything?
Sounds like wishful thinking to me!
March 9th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
“There is a brief excitement then silence. Hayworth’s name is mentioned rarely on Hot Air, RedState, Powerline, and Townhall, just to name a few, but then a fizzle. I have my google reader set to 40 conservative blogs across the country and it has been all quiet on the western front. Why?”
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Why?
J.D. introduced himself to RedState and McCainbots swarmed the place. As far as HotAir, and more importantly RedState, TheOtherMcCain, GatewayPundit, and Jim DeMint who each produce and promote others MONEYBOMBS are concerned; Arizona can’t stand J.D.
Has anyone made effort to enlighten them?
No.
When the bots come here they are easy to identify, when they go to a national blog,
quién sabe.
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March 10th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Locke is clearly being dishonest here, are we really supposed to believe that you would publicly attack the person you are supporting. Of course not, the McCain people seem to think we are all idiots.
And do you know why? Because they are completely out of touch. Their overreaction to the web ad for the Avatar thing was the perfect example. McCain’s idiot flak Verdone said it was offensive to Native Americans! Dude go to the movies!
Truth be told i wrote John McShame off a long time ago.
Of greater concern to me is Jon Kyl. I hope he doesn’t run again, because there is no way i will ever volunteer for him let alone vote for him again after what he did to JD. I guess we all forgot too quickly how Kyl is just as open borders as McCain. I won’t make that mistake again.
March 10th, 2010 at 9:40 am
I called it!
March 10th, 2010 at 11:01 am
If JD Hayworth were elected, it could be only a short-term gain for conservatives. JD’s character seems to be insensitive and risks an eventual Democrat taking the seat. He does have an image problem. His image is entirely his inability to incite confidence with the electorate. What Arizona Republicans and Conservatives really need is someone who will most reliably look after the interests of this state. McCain is well respected and gives Arizona voice in a world that is constantly inundated with noise. Having a respected voice represent the state is a very powerful asset in promoting the interests of Arizonans. Let’s face it; John McCain is a Republican, especially in the realm of Foreign Policy. We can’t forget that he advocated for the troop surge in Iraq when it was politically unpopular. Iraq just last Sunday, engaged in a historical election where there was a 62% voter turn-out. If it were up to Obama or Biden, the United States’ standing in the World and Iraq’s future prosperity would have been greatly diminished, threatening the greater global order. McCain is far from a Liberal Democrat, but rather, a respected Republican who received 57 million votes in 2008. His strong voice does Arizona a great justice that JD’s wouldn’t achieve.
March 10th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Conservative 2 the Core said: “Of greater concern to me is Jon Kyl. I hope he doesn’t run again, because there is no way i will ever volunteer for him let alone vote for him again after what he did to JD. I guess we all forgot too quickly how Kyl is just as open borders as McCain. I won’t make that mistake again.”
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No, not everyone forgot. It’s impossible to forget that Kyl co-sponsored amnesty legislation right after his last re-election. It’s time to retire McCain-Kyl!
March 10th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Clark T:
So you just said electing JD would be a vistory for conservatives but dismiss this as being unhelpful because it risks the seat long term… But electing a 74 year old man with melanoma and permanents wounds from being a POW does not risk the seat long term?
Just looking at it from the perspective of McCains age it is time for him to go. Even if he is re-elected this is likely his final term in the senate because he would be 80 by the time the next election comes about. So if your concern is opening the seat up for a democrat in the near future you should be voting for JD…
March 11th, 2010 at 10:05 am
They are completely out of touch.