At the January, 2009 Arizona Republican Party state convention, the party expressed its will and resolved to oppose photo radar. This is the body that sets policy for the state Republican party. State Committeemen from all over the state convened to conduct its business. Among other things, it unanimously passed the resolution you see at the bottom of this post.
In defiance of the will of the body of Republican State Committeemen comes Republican Senator Linda Gray from legislative district 10. Linda Gray is the sponsor of SB1443 and SCR1059. These two bills are the same bills. They ostensibly are being run to “correct” technical problems and “improve” the state’s photo radar program.
SCR1059 is a referendum version to put on the ballot to confuse voters, presumably if Camerafraud.com‘s efforts are successful and they get their citizens’ initiative on the ballot to end photo radar. SB1443 is merely the floor version of the bill. Catcalls also go out to self-proclaimed pro-liberty Republican Frank Antenori from LD-30 for sponsoring these bills in the house.
In fact, these bills are being run at the behest of Redflex‘s lobbyists.
If you don’t already know (thanks to Camerafraud.com for the info!), the “cameras” are not photo cameras, but they stream surveillance video 24x7x365 to computer servers belonging to a foreign corporation. Redflex has the ability to identify the license plate that passes each camera (anywhere in the world they operate!) The “corrections” these bills will implement are:
- automatically ticket you for failing to register your vehicle
- automatically ticket you for failing to renew your insurance on time
- automatically ticket you for texting on your cell or talking on the phone (like California, that ban is in the works already)
- automatically ticket you for failing to buckle your seatbelt
The bottom line is that a foreign corporation is spying on Arizonans’ movements 24x7x365. Not even 20 years ago, any elected official even suggesting such a thing would have been labelled a communist and driven out of office.
Today, disgracefully, Republicans (or those who like to call themselves that) kowtow to lobbyists of foreign corporations to help them pass laws to spy on Americans, in this case Arizonans.
On February 10th, Linda Gray along with recently appointed (and self-proclaimed) “conservative” Republican David Braswell from LD-6 voted with Democrats to pass SB1443 and SCR1059 out of committee.
Please do not hesitate to contact your state legislators in the House and in the Senate to voice your strong opposition to these bills SB1443 and SCR1059.
As far as Republicans Linda Gray, David Braswell and Frank Antenori go, why do we even have a Republican party, if these Republican state senators and representatives push their own personal agendas and those of the lobbyists of foreign corporations against the will of the Arizona Republican Party and against the interests of Arizonans?
It’s time to hold our elected Republicans accountable. Just calling yourself “conservative” or “pro-liberty” doesn’t cut it anymore. We want to see CONSISTENT ACTION, no more chin music.
Teaparty, anyone?
(Ironically, David Braswell was the state GOP Resolutions Committee chairman at the time this resolution passed out of the party committee before it went to the whole of the state committee.)
Sonoran Weekly Review has uncovered a new series of disturbing, unethical actions perpetrated by Arizona’s newest US Senate candidate, JD Hayworth. In the weeks to come, SWR will bring you the stories that have not been reported in any other media outlet in the country – stories that have not been manufactured by affiliates of Hayworth’s public relations team.
Former conservative talk show host turned 2010 US Senate candidate, JD Hayworth, has spent nearly a year exercising his First Amendment rights – using the Arizona airwaves, Republican meetings and town halls to angrily call Senator John McCain a bully, an intimidator, and a scared political heavyweight has-been.
What a rookie error. A Senate rookie, that is.
Hayworth has repeatedly and publicly mischaracterized Senator McCain’s finely-aged confidence, world-wide respect and manhood – his lifelong legacy – as merely some kind of juvenile, schoolyard victim story that has left him paralyzed with fear after all of these years in Washington.
Hayworth desperately wants to believe that Senator John McCain is scared of him. The truth is almost laughable. Senator McCain has wrestled bigger demons and principalities during his lifetime than JD Hayworth has ever wrestled in his dreams.
But sadly, reality will not stop JD Hayworth’s mouth. He believes it is his greatest weapon but it is, in fact, his darkest curse.
Years ago, The Arizona Republic christened JD Hayworth with the nickname “The Bully” for exercising his free speech incessantly and brutishly. It is a name that has served him well both in Arizona and in Washington DC.
Just ask some of the good folks at Phoenix television station, KTVK – Channel 3.
In what can only be described as alarming and despicable behavior unbecoming to a conservative Christian, SWR has discovered that JD Hayworth participated in an extortionate scheme to shakedown the #1 independent television station in the United States and the #1 station across Arizona, Phoenix’s KTVK – Channel 3.
With the gratuitous help of his favorite high-powered Washington DC legal firm, Foley & Lardner, Hayworth’s threatening interference with KTVK’s broadcasting license kicked off a desperate attempt to stifle political free speech just two weeks before Hayworth’s embarrassing general election loss to Democrat Harry Mitchell in November, 2006.
Responding to an October 18, 2006 complaint from JD Hayworth’s campaign which accused the National Education Association’s Fund for Children and Public Education (NEA) of running a television ad that falsely attacked Hayworth’s legislative voting record and policy positions, admitted McCain-Feingold hater, Foley & Lardner election law attorney Cleta Mitchell, fired off a nasty three page “cease and desist if you want to exist” letter to the Station Manager of Belo Corporation’s KTVK – Channel 3 – “Arizona’s Family”.
In her legal letter on behalf of Hayworth, Mitchell threatened KTVK with the loss of its broadcasting license if it did not immediately cease airing the NEA’s ad. If any attorney in Washington DC would petition and sue to revoke a broadcaster’s license, provided that best served a client – that attorney would be Cleta Mitchell.
Mitchell’s letter to the KTVK Station Manager said,
“….this is not political advertisement as that term is defined by the Federal Communications Act. Your station is not protected from legal liability for airing false and misleading advertisement sponsored by the NEA……your station is not obligated to air any advertisement from the NEA……a licensee who fails to properly supervise the airing of (among other things) ‘false and misleading advertising’ can be properly divested of its license….you are subjecting your station to potential liability….please be advised that the NEA has falsified its required report which was to have been filed within 24 hours of the airing of this advertisement. A complaint is being filed today against the NEA…..”
Mitchell finished her rude letter with a big lie. One she’d hoped might influence the election for her client.
Cleta Mitchell told KTVK management that the NEA had falsified its required FEC report regarding expenditures at their station, even though she knew the NEA had not yet filed any report with the FEC and that they had still had 48 hours to do so. Considering the NEA had spent over $308,000, the stakes for all players were high.
The emergency dissemination of this letter to Arizona’s favorite television station was a decidedly anti-First Amendment maneuver from a First Amendment hypocritical-blowhard and his legally blond sidekick who lawyers-up with any constitutional politician, PAC or ultra conservative cause that will have her. She is a featured performer on that circuit. Not bad for a gal that spent the first 40 of her 60 years….as Democrat.
The investigation by SWR also found that JD Hayworth and Cleta Mitchell filed a stealth 2006 complaint with the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) against the NEA on October 20, 2006, just two days after threatening to shut down KTVK. This complaint formally became known at the FEC as Matter Under Review – 5855 (MUR 5855). All public documents can be found here. Just type 5855 in the case # window.
Curiously, Hayworth’s formal FEC complaint neglected to mention Mitchell’s strong-armed letter to KTVK. However, the last few pages of the NEA’s formal response to the Hayworth’s complaint contained a gem of a copy of the KTVK letter.
The NEA’s copy of the KTVK letter shows three faxed time stamps and phone numbers. This copy of the KTVK letter went from JD Hayworth’s Scottsdale office, to the KTVK – Channel 3 Sales Department and on to Media Strategies – the media buying firm that purchased the airtime on KTVK for the NEA’s 30 second spot.
The KTVK letter was a hot item then. It still is, even now.
Following Hayworth’s formal complaint to the FEC, the FEC notified the NEA that Hayworth had filed a complaint against them. The NEA already knew about the KTVK shakedown and didn’t hesitate to repeat the dirty details in its reply to the FEC.
The NEA’s lead counsel, Richard Wilkof, drafted a poignant response to Hayworth’s formal FEC complaint saying, “….the Complaint is entirely groundless, to the point of being frivolous. It appears to be merely part of a larger effort to bully a television station that broadcasts in Arizona’s 5Ih Congressional District into pulling from the air an independent expenditure paid for by The NEA Fund that was critical of Congressman Hayworth. In that sense, the Complaint would be the functional equivalent of an abuse of the process, and should be summarily dismissed by the Commission…… We submit that allegations in the Complaint are disingenuous, and that the Hayworth committee filed the Complaint merely as part of a multi-faceted strategy to pressure KTVK-TV into pulling The NEA Fund’s television advertisements from the air.”
Responding to Cleta Mitchell’s manufactured lie about the NEA’s falsified expenditure report to the FEC, the NEA responded, “The complainant alleged that the National Education Association Fund for Children and Public Education (“NEA Fund”) violated the Act by failing to report within 48 hours its independent expenditures for television advertisements that were critical of Rep. J.D. Hayworth. However, the complaint was filed roughly twelve hours before the NEA Fund’s report was due to be filed with the Commission. In fact, respondent did file timely its necessary 48 Hour report. Hence, no violation occurred.”
For the next seven months, the FEC kept MUR 5855 under investigation but had classified the complaint as a low-rated matter and recommended it for dismissal. On May 16, 2007 the FEC’s Office of General Counsel dismissed the case, saying that Hayworth’s filing of the formal complaint was premature, as the NEA still time to legally file its expenditure report after Hayworth filed his complaint.
However, on May 30, 2007, the FEC commissioners met and unanimously voted to reject the Office of General Counsel’s recommendation to dismiss MUR 5855 on the basis of prosecutorial discretion. The FEC commissioners, instead, voted to find no reason to believe that the NEA violated and campaign finance laws or FEC regulations.
The FEC commissioners handed JD Hayworth and Cleta Mitchell a definitive rejection of their frivolous complaint, saying that no violation occurred. By June 20, 2007 the FEC commissioners had all signed off on their unanimous decision in favor of the NEA.
By this time, Hayworth had already lost his US House seat to Harry Mitchell and had been the afternoon talk show host at KFYI-550 AM for a couple of months. Hayworth had not been a radio broadcaster since his college days. Prior to becoming a US House Representative in 1995, Hayworth had been a longtime Phoenix television sportscaster but he was unable to find a job in that venue, at any local station.
Hey Mary, wanna get back on topic here? Ya know camera’s and another big-brother legislator who wants nothing but the money.
McCain isn’t scared? A senior official who was sure of the support of his state would ignore the pesky annoyance. The only reason he is responding with such vehemence is he knows he is going down. It couldn’t happen to a better guy.
To bring this back to topic: I hope this next election will cleanse all psuedo Republicans from office and elect people who truly represent us, not lobbyists.
Miss Mary = Professional political consultant working for the McCAin campaign, duh.
Looks like there are some angry Republicans in LD10!
Is Linda Gray facing a primary opponent?
Redflex works in China. I wonder do the chinese have access to their web based system.
Redflex also works in Saudia Arabia.
The folks in LD10 and LD30 need to look at their state legislature members and see if they like what they have or if they need to be changed out. That is the purpose of holding a vigorous primary. it is where you vet your candidates and pick the best.
McCain staffers posting material that is not relevant to the topic is gettting old. I expect the next place I’ll see their press releases is plastered onto bathroom stalls at the truck stops. That at least would be a fitting place for it.
DeAnn is dead on, McRINO is scared.
yes, camerfraud is in the building spreading their narrow minded message ” our way or the highway ” for those in office that do not oppose photo radar!! But ask any of them for a count on their signature collection and they can not tell you!! but they are out still pounding the pavement looking for anything that can breathe to sign!!( they have no clue that they are not going to get near the number) I see that Rpr is here….. he is in favor of unchecked speeding and the metality that ” i will speed if i want to”
i hope karma raises her ugly face and teaches him a cruel lesson!!!
the only thing fraudulent going on is the lies they tell at Camerfaud.com but they have some really cool tin hats for sale!!!!
We need to get rid of photo radar permanently!
How any conservative can support such an overreach by bureaucrats is beyond me.
Until photo radar is removed by voters, the best “protest” we can do is by knowing the loopholes and ignoring the tickets.
If enough people ignore the tickets, RedFlex will start losing enough money that it’s not worth their while in our state any longer.
Um, duh, Law Abusing Citizen, no initiative broadcasts its signatures before the date, except maybe to its major donors.
Law Abusing Citizen works for Redflex or it’s new fangled political consultants in Washington, DC trying to get SCR1059 on the ballot?
LOL
I applaud Linda Gray for standing up for what she believes…. if the “party” told her to stab herself in the heart is she supposed to do that? I dont want the person who represents my district to just “go along” with their party… i want them to use their own minds, listen to the people they represent…. then meld the two and come up with how they will vote!!! i am sorry to see the Sonoran Alliance has given credit to camerfraud and actually taken their advise…. please research their web site of lies, innuendo and half truths….. you will see they are not a role model !!
PEOPLE the majority either dont care about the cameras or want to see them stay because they have seen for themselves that the cameras are working… and that yes….the laws need to be reformed to shore up all the loop holes!!! their is a very small minority that is making lots of noise…. if you really want to judge the pulse of the public on PR…just look over the past year of the protests that camerafraud has sponsored… they have a membership of over 1800 …yet can hardly get 10-20 for a protest!!! Come July 1st the deadline for them to turn in petitions will have passed and they will either not turn any in or turn in what they have, which will not be enough, and then accuse big brother of destroying them…. some how some way they will blame the government, which is what they do when they can not face their own failures as humans!! its got to be somebody elses fault!!!! bye bye camerafraud…. will there be a reception after your funeral?
OVERserved!! wow!! i have never heard that before!! that i am employed by redfflex, ats, etc..etc..etc… what a joke..get a new line…. is that the best you can come up with? until i was finally banned from camerafraud for making too much sense, i heard those accusations everyday even though most of their regular posting members, well all 10 of them, knew which industry i worked in….
camerafraud has done much trash talking when they think they have a victory in something, (a zebra does not change its stripes) …. yet they remain very quiet about the count… i suspect it is due to the fact they dont want the volunteers to give up knowing they are not close…. 153,000 plus is what is needed…. they will need over 200,000 to be safe…. dont be fooled by their silence….CF is done!!
Dear John,
Those loopholes will be closed this session!! You may want to start observing the traffic laws now so that you will not have to pay fines later.
Thanks,
Law A. Biding Citizen
Wow. Law Abusing Citizen believes that foreign corporations should spy on Arizonans for profit! What a real, patriotic American!
Freedom to manage onesself and ones own affairs without being surveilled by big brother is a “loophole”?
Bizarre.
I’m sorry I have to post again. LOL
This “freedom is a loophole” concept that Law Abusing Citizen purports is the same argument McCain used for private gun sales at gun shows.
According to McCain and the Democrats (McCain/Lautenberg), the freedom to sell ones private property between law abiding citizens (more irony) was labelled the “Gun Show Loophole”.
http://www.sheriffpaul.com/
check out his website he hates photo radar
OVERserved!! you dont have the freedom to put others safety and lives at risk, we have traffic laws for a reason… so would you consider rape, murder etc..ones own affairs?
You may want to get off of that foreign corporation platform now….. it is not against the law for foreign companies to conduct business in America…. and in fact you probably deal with foreign corporations everyday that are making money off of you…
and save your breath about being spied upon.. until the highest court in the land rules on this….. it is not illegal or unconstitutional…. you all like to forget that little fact!!!
OVERserved..are you going to bring anything to the table? or just keep trying to discrdit me with childish name calling and accusations? You are a member of camerafraud!!! what phony name do you use over there?
RPr and camerfraud have no clue that they are being used by sheriff bobo to bring publicity to himself…. he soon will be trying to take over for joe in maricopa county…. too bad he picked a losing platform and organization….unless that is, he wants to lose an election!!!!
Law Abusing Citizen, quit being hysterical. Speeing 11 mph over limit is not the same as committing rape. What’s wrong with you?
OVERserved…. “freedom is a loophole” are your words not mine…so please do not give me credit with a quote…. let me guess..your next accusation is that i work for redflex, ats, etc etc…. you people are all the same , just different names…..
Actually those are precisely your words. There’s something really wrong with you.
OVERserved…. the line seems to be blurred for you… just as you accuse government of taking things too far, so to are you tin hats…. next you will defend a rapist, I would imagine your battle cry will be that he should be allowed to have sex with any woman that he wants, since you feel that 11 mph over the speed limit is ok…what other laws do you advocate breaking? is 11 mph in a school zone acceptable for you? is 11 mph ok in a residential neighborhood? are you ok with someone going 11 mph over the speed limit in front of your house with your kids\grandkids outside? so where does the line get drawn for speeding? as it is half the people i see driving on the freeway can not handle 65mph let alone 76mph….please enlighten me!!!
Law Abusing Citizen,
You are a hysterical maniac who requires psychiatric treatment.
OVERserved…. if that is true feel free to tell me which post i wrote it in…. I will wait while you search….
Law Abiding – when I was in Australia a few years back Redflex was paying $200 for anyone “not an employee” who would write a letter to an editor or make a post to a blog.
How much are they paying you? I hear they are cutting back now that they are losing money.
OVERserved…. the name calling again… taken from the manual over at camerafraud for how to deal with trolls that are making us look bad…..
1. call names
2. make accusations of employment by the enemy
3. attribute words to trolls they did not use
4. refer to #1
5. whatever you do, dont make any valid points because a smart troll will rip them apart and force them down your throat
6. call them unamerican
Law Abusing Citizen, any rational person needs to merely read your posts above to see that you have yourself done each of the 6 items on your list. You appear to be off your meds again today.
Yes, Mr.Waters…. I saw your thread at CF this morning…do you know why I was not able to post a response? cause i have been banned from that site…. i went by many names there to circumvent their troll radar… but finally i lost the battle… and all for just telling it like it is….please feel to ask around at CF, they will admit that i am not an employee of redflex, ats…. they checked… ask stacey what i do for a living…. as doc from prescott!!!
oh so now it is the ” not an employee” thing…. very clever…. hey Mike, I really dont care what happens in Australia… i dont live there… and i found flaws in your thread today… but again, i could not expose your lies and half truths since CF does not like opposing views!! ever notice that no “trolls” are allowed in their meet up section? nothing but love for the haters on that section!!
How many CF events have you been to Mike? my guess is zero!!! you are just another mouth peice that wants to work from the sit down position, to attend anything would require effort !!!
AHA!!!! Law Abusing Citizen, a little birdie just send me some information about you. It looks like you were banned from another blog for threatening to kill people who disagreed with you with an AK47!
LOL. You are a little hysterical one, aren’t you?
Nothing to laugh at, you are downright dangerous. And to think your brother is ane elected Sheriff in Arizona! You should be ashamed:
2009/10/15 at 4:56pm
http://www.meetup.com/camerafraud/boards/view/viewthread?thread=7871093
notpforme@yahoo.com IP=68.106.236.178
“anybody know a good place to get ammunition for ak-47 assault rifle? or rifles !!! im just curious.. for a friend of mine !!
see ya soon !!! i know it will be a blast !!! oh and can we wear costumes ? i have this “columbine trench coat” outfit i have not worn yet !! it even comes with a Dillon Kliebold mask !!”
OVERserved…. i think you need to remove the rose colored glasses you are wearing…. you wish i had done all 6…. i only count 1 violation on my part!! which was my counterpunch to your name calling….
Law A. Biding is a moron obviously paid by red flex, eh mate. He thinks people should get the death penalty for speeding. Idiot. We are in a recession and he wants to send our money to Australia. He truly is unamerican.
Hey, the model does fit him. Sometimes labels do fit.
first of all its not my brother…. and second…the next day i emailed cf and asked them to remove the post..i apologized as it was in distate and out of line… but it never was removed even after more attempts on my part to have it removed…. i was banned well after that post ….. so it appears that your little birdie did not give you all the information…. which is exactly how CF works….. half truths, innuendo and flat out lies!!! i think your birdie, Rpr to be exact, just pooped on your face!!!! if you are going to report things as facts…. you may want to get the entire story!!!
No Roger, not the death penalty, but just held accountable!!!
OVERserved…. where do you get that i was threatening killing anyone that did not agree with me…. that is not even written there… did the birdie tell you that? and didnt it raise a red flag with you that is not what was written?
i was letting them know i would be attending one of their events…. notice that i wrote” can we wear costumes” it had nothing to do with those that i disagree with….. use your own mind man!!!
I see much like reality, the comment zoom over your head.
“3. attribute words to trolls they did not use.”
but thanks for proving my point.
yes roger….you are a scholar!!!!
Apparently, Linda Gray is also willing to sell out Arizonans to the feds for a mere $12 million
http://cronkitenews.jmc.asu.edu/?p=1471
What is wrong with her? Is she pulling an “Alren Specter” on us? Or is she working for the McCainiac tax increase lobbyists?
i will have to assume that OVERserved, Mike and Roger grew tired of having their backsides kicked!!! and RPr saw my name and ran off like a stock car driver nearing the checkered flag !!! Oh well, I grow tired of always being right!!!
Returning to the “heart of the matter” reveals that Linda Gray is your basic establishment Republican.
Yap about small government and individual rights while running for office but butter up the special interests and “reach out” to the Left to create a “big tent” while holding office.
After awhile, I don’t blame people like her or McCain (who has perfected the practice) but the dumb boobs who continually elect them!
RPr Says:
February 16, 2010 at 1:05 pm | Reply
AZ Senator gets no love from her own party http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/02/16/republican-state-senator-linda-gray-ld10-defies-will-of-azgop/#comments
anyone recognize the local Troll LOL
@CameraFraudAz Says:
February 16, 2010 at 1:12 pm | Reply
I only counted 11 exclamation points in one of his posts. He must be settling down these days.
LOL
RPr runs back to his camp instead of addressing me like a man…. there is nothing worse in this world than a coward!!!
of course carlist…. those people that keep electing them MUST be dumb boobs !! cause YOU are the one that is all knowing…. correct? please do not use boobs in a derogatory fashion, they are never dumb…. i happen to be a fan of boobs, it would not surprise me to find out you are not…..
Thanks for the link, Law Abuser!
Look at this revelation posted to Camerafraud.com!
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PersonalFreedom Says:
February 16, 2010 at 4:38 pm | Reply
i’m a camerfraud insider working for ATS. I only work a clerical position where i type up correspondence and such. But anyways, last week ATS had a government official come in and try to force us all to write letters to the legislatures saying how we are ‘FOR’ photo radar! I peacefully disobeyed and tried to talk co-workers into not doing this atrocity to no avail.. mindless people not having a single thought for themselves. It was truly amazing, but anyways the point of my comment is to let people know they will be seding around 10,000 letters all PRO photo radar to the legislatures! Something needs to be done about this! Spread the word please and hopefully the people can stop this wreckless intrusion.
revelation? this is nothing more than a CF volunteer making up a sensational story. first of all this clerical person does not know that we only have one legislature, and if you are “for” something then you are “pro” ……. and i doubt there are 10,0000 people that work in the ats office here…. if this was true the “insider” would have supplied a name and branch of government of the person that was brought in to strong arm the employees. isnt that insiders are supposed to do, get names ?
furthermore, had this been true, the first place that i would report it would not be to camerafraud. but then again, it is an insider!!!
this will get the clowns over at CF fired up though…. they will gather at the pizza joint tonight with their tin hats all polished and this will help fuel their big brother abuse banter….
but go ahead and believe this crock if you want…… talk about mindless sheep !!!!
Law Abuser, that may or may not be true. Neither you nor I know. It is certainly interesting, however.
Lab,
I’ve missed your inane and ludicrious comments. You really ought to quit hitting on the crack pipe because it affects your mind which is apparent as you rant on about… oh, nothing relevant as usual. At least you are consistent. Say Hi! to your boss at Redfux. No, don’t get high with him.
Jett, if you really missed me you would tell the hypocrites at CF that denying me access without explaining to others why and then acting like I just went away with my tail between my legs is not playing fair…. but then that is the way you guys like it… very little opposition at your site. you all like it when everyone agrees with you. keep the trolls to a minimum. or maybe it was due to the fact that my posts were right on target and they were tired of hearing the truth, that no matter the great effort CF has made in collecting signatures, the goal will not be reached…. and if you think turning in the minimum is going to cut it, well then you are the fool…. not everyone that signs is registered… in fact only 6 or 7 in 10 are. just cause they signed means notta, nothing!! i visit almost daily, read the lies and then move on…. every once in awhile i try and post just to see if i have slipped through the cracks but no dice… they really dont want the truth being spread… the only burning question i have is why the dinner out at san tan flats got canceled after the sheriff bobo dog and pony show on the 6th? my guess is for a lack of participation…. if they think it will be any better this thursday they are mistaken.. but they will play it off as a huge success in typical CF spin!!! that is the single biggest reason i know they are way short of the number… the boys that run CF are braggerts…. they like to thump their chests… they would have said if they were getting close…. they would not be able to control themselves!!!!
no OVERserved…it is not interesting… if you knew anything about CF then you would know it is a lie….they have done this sensationalism before and played it off as though it came from a redflex or ats employee….. funny that CF is just as bad as the people they are trying to defeat…. in fact daily CF spreads more lies and mistruth than all of our elected officials put together….believe it though if you want!!!
Lab, everything is a lie? No specific concerns?