Comments on: Sonoran Alliance on Sunday Square-Off!

By: Veritas Vincit

Veritas Vincit — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:20:31 +0000

Good job Shane… indeed, very good.

By: wanumba

wanumba — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:28:06 +0000

Across the country, two years ago, before all this current budget mess, the firefighter magazines were steadily noting the Pension Problem in departments big and small. The massive Union-negotiated pension packages to retiring firefighters were eating up so much of department budgets, they couldn’t AFFORD TO HIRE NEW RECRUITS as the experienced staff retired.

“Lovely” situation: smaller departments with less opportunity for experienced staff to train/supervise the newbies before they retired, and a budget and public service function that is hobbled by payments for non-producing people.

The police and firefighter pensions should be free market mechanisms, in the control of the individual, not ‘union-givernment.’

The problem already has prompted some free market rescues as more and more departments are contracting to private companies for firefighting and security services.

By: Jon Altmann, PC, State Committeeman LD11

Jon Altmann, PC, State Committeeman LD11 — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:03:34 +0000

Papa – the Legislature size is set by Constitution. At $24K a year, they don’t add up to that much.
What would be more interesting, could government cut back more of the high five figure and six figure executives, along with take home cars?

By: papatodd

papatodd — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:29:56 +0000

Funny how we never cut back on the size of government. could AZ do with let’s say 60 state reps instead of the 90 we have now?

By: todd

todd — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:10:22 +0000

Jon Altmann,
Colorado Springs has been letting go of police and firefighters and not filling positions.

By: Jon Altmann, PC, State Committeeman LD11

Jon Altmann, PC, State Committeeman LD11 — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:26:41 +0000

Figures, the one time we get Shane on is the day the pre-empt the show for – CARTOONS!!!
I don’t think the Phoeonix City Council has exhuasted its options. Nothing was discussed in furloughs, pulling the plug on “extra’s” like take-home cars, pulling the plub on the propoganda channel, City Cable 11, or cutting overtime; or going to 4/10 work weeks and shutting offices one day a week.
Don’t tell me it doesn’t work – El Paso County – Colorado Springs, CO – a Republican area – has been doing for almost two years. They did not cut Sheriff’s deputies, firefighters or police officers.

By: Danny

Danny — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:25:11 +0000

Lookin’ good, Shane! Good job.

By: RJ

RJ — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:19:12 +0000

Good job. My only comment on the “cut the police and firemen” scare tactic, if those personnel, who are among the highest paid on payroll, were to take a 10% temporary salary cut during these times, it would actually save more than cutting 500 personnel.

Private enterprise and other state and local employees are having to accept cuts, why are these people held to a different measure. I am tired of those people with a strong union holding everyone else hostage in a right to work state.

School personnel and public safety personnel get the best pay and benefit packages when things are going well, they need to set an example by volunteering to take some temporary cuts when things are bad.

By: papatodd

papatodd — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:27:11 +0000

Shane, looking good, my man. Way to stick to ‘em.

By: Alliance of Valiant Arms F2P-FPS HD

Alliance of Valiant Arms F2P-FPS HD — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:35:30 +0000

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By: wanumba

wanumba — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:38:02 +0000

Very nice!

Thanks for promptly rebutting the newest meme being foisted, “taxes aren’t a dirty word anymore.”

Ohh hoo. They sure are when no one asked the voters if all the out of control spending the legislature has admitted to have been doing was okay. Spend first, to force the public into a corner to pay for it.

No. Cut cut cut cut. The police, fire and teachers are always the scare tactic. Put the entire budget on-line, with clear explanations of each item and what programs are in it and watch the public discover all sorts of state offices and activities that don’t do much.
And mothball that transit train. Sunk cost – cheaper in the long run to shut it down ASAP than to try to keep it going on the basis that “it cost so much – it’s too big to fail – we have to keep trying to make it work.”

What a coup, though! A blogger at the same table as the Old Media … and with better hair, too. Good job!