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		<title>By: John Sitterley</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sitterley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Reader; This is Important. The economics of Freedom over Utopia&#039;s

With respect to the overall picture, there is, I reason, that great concern should be placed upon the whole Economic Strategy. The one world, one economy one people, one total government dedicated to the &quot;Collective&quot;, must be viewed as a dangerous avenue to proceed on.

Just last week, Frm U.N. Amb. John Bolton stated; &quot;&lt;b&gt;International Law...Does Not Trump the U.S. Constitution&lt;/b&gt;&quot;. Bravo. This is absolutely a Keystone and Pivotal Statement for it is the basis of our Freedom.
The socialists...well tend to support economists like J.M.Keynes &quot;Keynesian economics&quot;. Which is what fills the Accounting Rooms in the Federal Reserve and the US Treasury.

Austrian Economics on the other hand would not have permitted the &quot;bail-outs&quot;, and American companies employing labor on a massive scale overseas, while we have a 10% negative employment rate here...Excuse me. These are Communist Nations. And China underwriting our debt...Again Excuse me.

Those that believe in the free-market system incorporating smaller government and lower taxes and less regulation, tend to support &lt;b&gt;Ludwig Von Mises (1881-1973); Human Action&lt;/b&gt;&quot; and &quot;&lt;b&gt;F.A. Hayek (1899-1992) The Road to Serfdom&lt;/b&gt;&quot; and is known professionally as &quot;Austrian Economics&quot;. (the good guys) In America during the 1980&#039;s, the world renowned economist Von Mises, was used as the theoretical base for &quot;Reaganomics&quot;, and thankfully so. The &lt;b&gt;German Chancellor Merkle&lt;/b&gt; just announced a few months ago (09/2009) her move in the direction of Austrian Economics. Good for her. She&#039;s absolutely right. Any less of a decision would be foolhardy.

&lt;b&gt;Please, let reason be a beacon of our history&lt;/b&gt;. Fully incorporate Austrian Economics in our schools, universities and national policy. As Karl Von Clausewitz (On War) empirically stated; &quot;&lt;b&gt;War is but policy by other means&lt;/b&gt;&quot;. If pure logic were to apply...&quot;&lt;b&gt;Policy therefore, must be war by other means&lt;/b&gt;&quot;.

This goes right into the fields of &quot;Business Management&quot;. There use to be a saying in business, &quot;Managers manage people, Accountants manage money and never the twain shall meet&quot;. At least not until lately. Not that the &quot;bottom-line&quot; is any less important. but &quot;the people&quot; are your true asset. Any junior officer will tell you that. America is not primarily about just the money, it&#039;s about trust, freedom, liberty, duty, honor and justice.

The people that built this country for the past 300 years are being penalized for being prosperous. Not only are we losing our job base, but we are being taxed to pay for the &lt;b&gt;$787 Billion&lt;/b&gt; dollar Stimulus Plan and TARP Plan. Then, Hillery Clinton at the State Department came out last week stating that we are to pay to the third world nations &lt;b&gt;$100 Billion&lt;/b&gt; dollars for being an industrial success. Are you kidding me. Is anyone keeping count here? Really my friends, help Bring our work back to America now and reestablish our manufacturing base in this country before it&#039;s too late.

We can not afford to support a World Government or all the Third World countries that haven&#039;t got the &quot;gumshen&quot; to work and achieve their own dignity. It&#039;s that simple. There are some &quot;False Indicators&quot; in the economy now which reflect some signs of improvement, but if you think things are bad now, wait until this time next year. It&#039;s time to elect a new congress get the liberal lawyers out of our pockets.

To quote Holderlin; &quot;What has always made the state a hell on earth has been precisely that man has tried to make it his heaven&quot;.

Thank you; John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Reader; This is Important. The economics of Freedom over Utopia&#8217;s</p>
<p>With respect to the overall picture, there is, I reason, that great concern should be placed upon the whole Economic Strategy. The one world, one economy one people, one total government dedicated to the &#8220;Collective&#8221;, must be viewed as a dangerous avenue to proceed on.</p>
<p>Just last week, Frm U.N. Amb. John Bolton stated; &#8220;<b>International Law&#8230;Does Not Trump the U.S. Constitution</b>&#8220;. Bravo. This is absolutely a Keystone and Pivotal Statement for it is the basis of our Freedom.<br />
The socialists&#8230;well tend to support economists like J.M.Keynes &#8220;Keynesian economics&#8221;. Which is what fills the Accounting Rooms in the Federal Reserve and the US Treasury.</p>
<p>Austrian Economics on the other hand would not have permitted the &#8220;bail-outs&#8221;, and American companies employing labor on a massive scale overseas, while we have a 10% negative employment rate here&#8230;Excuse me. These are Communist Nations. And China underwriting our debt&#8230;Again Excuse me.</p>
<p>Those that believe in the free-market system incorporating smaller government and lower taxes and less regulation, tend to support <b>Ludwig Von Mises (1881-1973); Human Action</b>&#8221; and &#8220;<b>F.A. Hayek (1899-1992) The Road to Serfdom</b>&#8221; and is known professionally as &#8220;Austrian Economics&#8221;. (the good guys) In America during the 1980&#8242;s, the world renowned economist Von Mises, was used as the theoretical base for &#8220;Reaganomics&#8221;, and thankfully so. The <b>German Chancellor Merkle</b> just announced a few months ago (09/2009) her move in the direction of Austrian Economics. Good for her. She&#8217;s absolutely right. Any less of a decision would be foolhardy.</p>
<p><b>Please, let reason be a beacon of our history</b>. Fully incorporate Austrian Economics in our schools, universities and national policy. As Karl Von Clausewitz (On War) empirically stated; &#8220;<b>War is but policy by other means</b>&#8220;. If pure logic were to apply&#8230;&#8221;<b>Policy therefore, must be war by other means</b>&#8220;.</p>
<p>This goes right into the fields of &#8220;Business Management&#8221;. There use to be a saying in business, &#8220;Managers manage people, Accountants manage money and never the twain shall meet&#8221;. At least not until lately. Not that the &#8220;bottom-line&#8221; is any less important. but &#8220;the people&#8221; are your true asset. Any junior officer will tell you that. America is not primarily about just the money, it&#8217;s about trust, freedom, liberty, duty, honor and justice.</p>
<p>The people that built this country for the past 300 years are being penalized for being prosperous. Not only are we losing our job base, but we are being taxed to pay for the <b>$787 Billion</b> dollar Stimulus Plan and TARP Plan. Then, Hillery Clinton at the State Department came out last week stating that we are to pay to the third world nations <b>$100 Billion</b> dollars for being an industrial success. Are you kidding me. Is anyone keeping count here? Really my friends, help Bring our work back to America now and reestablish our manufacturing base in this country before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
<p>We can not afford to support a World Government or all the Third World countries that haven&#8217;t got the &#8220;gumshen&#8221; to work and achieve their own dignity. It&#8217;s that simple. There are some &#8220;False Indicators&#8221; in the economy now which reflect some signs of improvement, but if you think things are bad now, wait until this time next year. It&#8217;s time to elect a new congress get the liberal lawyers out of our pockets.</p>
<p>To quote Holderlin; &#8220;What has always made the state a hell on earth has been precisely that man has tried to make it his heaven&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thank you; John</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann, if McCain and his campaign staff had been as diligent about winning the presidential election in 2008 as they were about making sure conservatives didn&#039;t get elected as PCs in LD11, then we might not have Obama as POTUS. McCain got Haley Barbour making robo calls in LD11 for PC elections and had people at most polling places for the primary to push his PC slate. 

Plus, if McCain hadn&#039;t taken so much national Republican money for his own failed campaign, more might have been spent on Minnesota to help Coleman beat Franken in a VERY close election. That would have denied the Democrats their 60th vote in the Senate which would probably have kept the Health Insurance bill from passing. 

Of course, McCain really didn&#039;t care about any of the other races anyway. He didn&#039;t even try to help our candidates trying to retake the CD1, CD5, and CD8 seats in his home state of Arizona.

McCain is just for McCain as his &quot;Victory&quot; plan indicated. That&#039;s why it was rejected. In 2006, Kyl had a similar &quot;Victory&quot; plan. It worked for him, but all of the other Republican races went very badly since the State Party became a wholly owned subsidiary of the Kyl campaign. We don&#039;t need a repeat of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann, if McCain and his campaign staff had been as diligent about winning the presidential election in 2008 as they were about making sure conservatives didn&#8217;t get elected as PCs in LD11, then we might not have Obama as POTUS. McCain got Haley Barbour making robo calls in LD11 for PC elections and had people at most polling places for the primary to push his PC slate. </p>
<p>Plus, if McCain hadn&#8217;t taken so much national Republican money for his own failed campaign, more might have been spent on Minnesota to help Coleman beat Franken in a VERY close election. That would have denied the Democrats their 60th vote in the Senate which would probably have kept the Health Insurance bill from passing. </p>
<p>Of course, McCain really didn&#8217;t care about any of the other races anyway. He didn&#8217;t even try to help our candidates trying to retake the CD1, CD5, and CD8 seats in his home state of Arizona.</p>
<p>McCain is just for McCain as his &#8220;Victory&#8221; plan indicated. That&#8217;s why it was rejected. In 2006, Kyl had a similar &#8220;Victory&#8221; plan. It worked for him, but all of the other Republican races went very badly since the State Party became a wholly owned subsidiary of the Kyl campaign. We don&#8217;t need a repeat of that.</p>
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		<title>By: BigIron</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigIron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 05:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an NC Republican PC, SDC, and a member of National Precinct Activists. I work for the party only because I work for my Country first. The NPA organization is a way for you to organize to take back your party and restore our Republic. The Nevada Republican party has been restored by activists; the &quot;business-as-usual&quot; elite have fallen ... there. Go to &quot; www.NationalPrecinctActivists.com &quot; or &quot; www.WagTheDog.com &quot; for more information and help on how to organize and restore the AZ party. We&#039;ve little time to waste and much to do for 2010 and 2012. God Bless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an NC Republican PC, SDC, and a member of National Precinct Activists. I work for the party only because I work for my Country first. The NPA organization is a way for you to organize to take back your party and restore our Republic. The Nevada Republican party has been restored by activists; the &#8220;business-as-usual&#8221; elite have fallen &#8230; there. Go to &#8221; <a href="http://www.NationalPrecinctActivists.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.NationalPrecinctActivists.com</a> &#8221; or &#8221; <a href="http://www.WagTheDog.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.WagTheDog.com</a> &#8221; for more information and help on how to organize and restore the AZ party. We&#8217;ve little time to waste and much to do for 2010 and 2012. God Bless!</p>
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		<title>By: Oberserve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oberserve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s bottom line it.

McCain, if he wins, is not going to stay in office for more than a year or two.  As soon as he retires, the party and governor will be able to appoint a new &quot;incumbant&quot; - or so goes the plan.

The McCainiac moderates and liberals will do WHATEVER they have to in order to ensure the continuing hegemony of the McCainiac political &quot;family&quot;.

They will do ANYTHING.  And they&#039;re looking for jobs.  They are desparate to hold on, despite the rising tide of disaffected conservative grassroots and teapartiers.

It&#039;s time for him to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s bottom line it.</p>
<p>McCain, if he wins, is not going to stay in office for more than a year or two.  As soon as he retires, the party and governor will be able to appoint a new &#8220;incumbant&#8221; &#8211; or so goes the plan.</p>
<p>The McCainiac moderates and liberals will do WHATEVER they have to in order to ensure the continuing hegemony of the McCainiac political &#8220;family&#8221;.</p>
<p>They will do ANYTHING.  And they&#8217;re looking for jobs.  They are desparate to hold on, despite the rising tide of disaffected conservative grassroots and teapartiers.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for him to go!</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please define &quot;unify&quot;.  Read the previous post...apparently anyone who asks for unity is really a traitor speaking in liberal code and desires death to conservatism.  According to some of those entries, the only way to victory is through division.

Yep...that&#039;s what they said.  No wonder we have an inexperienced socialist as POTUS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please define &#8220;unify&#8221;.  Read the previous post&#8230;apparently anyone who asks for unity is really a traitor speaking in liberal code and desires death to conservatism.  According to some of those entries, the only way to victory is through division.</p>
<p>Yep&#8230;that&#8217;s what they said.  No wonder we have an inexperienced socialist as POTUS.</p>
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		<title>By: Hatshipsuit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hatshipsuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are we treated like disobedient children who don&#039;t know what&#039;s good for the Party?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are we treated like disobedient children who don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s good for the Party?</p>
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		<title>By: Hatshipsuit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hatshipsuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who and where is the brave soul who will make a genuine attempt at unifying the Rep. Party?Is it even feasible? Is it something to wish for? I am at a loss. I have been a Conservative Rep. since the day I registered, years ago. Many of the people I met at the District meetings and other gatherings, used to be Conservative as well. Now, they have veered to the left only for self serving reasons: they want members of their families to be elected at all cost, or in McCain&#039;s case (and many others) they wnat election and re-election because they are addicted to power and don&#039;t believe other people can do the job just as well, even better, and they do not listen to the PCs who disagree with them. Precinct Committeemen are the life blood of the Party. why</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who and where is the brave soul who will make a genuine attempt at unifying the Rep. Party?Is it even feasible? Is it something to wish for? I am at a loss. I have been a Conservative Rep. since the day I registered, years ago. Many of the people I met at the District meetings and other gatherings, used to be Conservative as well. Now, they have veered to the left only for self serving reasons: they want members of their families to be elected at all cost, or in McCain&#8217;s case (and many others) they wnat election and re-election because they are addicted to power and don&#8217;t believe other people can do the job just as well, even better, and they do not listen to the PCs who disagree with them. Precinct Committeemen are the life blood of the Party. why</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Martinson   (Hardcore)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Martinson   (Hardcore)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hardcore says:
Remember folks, we have to win first before we can change anything.We need the seats and the vote. Leave McCain alone!  I don&#039;t think we have anyone to beat him.  Let JD take on Mitchell again, that would be smarter.  I care about our policy &amp; platform, but we have to beat the Democrats, to protect our way of life and our FREEDOMS. It&#039;s Win, Win, Win!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hardcore says:<br />
Remember folks, we have to win first before we can change anything.We need the seats and the vote. Leave McCain alone!  I don&#8217;t think we have anyone to beat him.  Let JD take on Mitchell again, that would be smarter.  I care about our policy &amp; platform, but we have to beat the Democrats, to protect our way of life and our FREEDOMS. It&#8217;s Win, Win, Win!</p>
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		<title>By: Jet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other Jeff, I have too.  

I, like the founders, believe that it is the unfettered exchange of ideas that lies as the very cornerstone of any free and open society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other Jeff, I have too.  </p>
<p>I, like the founders, believe that it is the unfettered exchange of ideas that lies as the very cornerstone of any free and open society.</p>
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		<title>By: The other Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>The other Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#86
Yes, I am serious about other people’s liberties, as well as our own.  You should be too.  
The security of our nation and the structures that protect our freedoms within it must not exist in a vacuum.  They must look at everything as a potential threat.  I know this sounds paranoid, but it is nearly impossible without the shedding of blood to regain freedoms once they are lost.
One of the duties we have as a world power is to promote peace through diplomatic relations.  When those methods are no longer effective in protecting our security from countries that threaten us or other countries, we must use force to remove the threat and to deter future incidents.
What empires do you see the US as having built?  I keep hearing about this New World Order, but I haven’t seen much progress made in that direction except by liberals who allow our liberties to be negotiated away for the perception of security.  Remember that the conventional way of maintaining peace was to conquer an enemy and subjugate them to the winner’s government to the point where the conquered ceased to exist as an independent entity.  Our methods, for good or bad, have always been to defeat the threat and allow the country to recover in a way that keeps them independent as long as they don’t return to being a threat.  
Whether we are over there or not, there will always be people who hate this country because of our prosperity, freedoms, politics, or whatever.  Some people don’t need a reason to hate; they just need a target for the blame of everything they see as wrong in this world.
Would I be pissed if China or Russia invaded the US and set up bases in our states?  Absolutely.  Would I do everything possible to repel them?  Absolutely.  However, if our government were to negotiate the existence of those bases and work with China or Russia to keep the peace and the eventual  closing of those bases, I would be more interested in doing whatever I could to make that a reality than I would in continuing the disruption that brought them here in the first place.
I have nothing against the cave dwellers, until they pop-up and try to kill our troops with IEDs and suicide bombs.  And I have nothing against Muslims until they try to blow themselves up on one of our planes.
I agree that both the Republican and Democrat parties are in need of serious overhaul, and our government needs to get out of our lives.  However, to accomplish that we need good candidates and good party officials who are of good moral character and strong in their convictions to individual liberty.
I have enjoyed this debate with you.  I don’t believe I’ve changed your mind, nor have you changed mine.  However, I still celebrate the opportunity to freely have this debate in an open forum such as this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#86<br />
Yes, I am serious about other people’s liberties, as well as our own.  You should be too.<br />
The security of our nation and the structures that protect our freedoms within it must not exist in a vacuum.  They must look at everything as a potential threat.  I know this sounds paranoid, but it is nearly impossible without the shedding of blood to regain freedoms once they are lost.<br />
One of the duties we have as a world power is to promote peace through diplomatic relations.  When those methods are no longer effective in protecting our security from countries that threaten us or other countries, we must use force to remove the threat and to deter future incidents.<br />
What empires do you see the US as having built?  I keep hearing about this New World Order, but I haven’t seen much progress made in that direction except by liberals who allow our liberties to be negotiated away for the perception of security.  Remember that the conventional way of maintaining peace was to conquer an enemy and subjugate them to the winner’s government to the point where the conquered ceased to exist as an independent entity.  Our methods, for good or bad, have always been to defeat the threat and allow the country to recover in a way that keeps them independent as long as they don’t return to being a threat.<br />
Whether we are over there or not, there will always be people who hate this country because of our prosperity, freedoms, politics, or whatever.  Some people don’t need a reason to hate; they just need a target for the blame of everything they see as wrong in this world.<br />
Would I be pissed if China or Russia invaded the US and set up bases in our states?  Absolutely.  Would I do everything possible to repel them?  Absolutely.  However, if our government were to negotiate the existence of those bases and work with China or Russia to keep the peace and the eventual  closing of those bases, I would be more interested in doing whatever I could to make that a reality than I would in continuing the disruption that brought them here in the first place.<br />
I have nothing against the cave dwellers, until they pop-up and try to kill our troops with IEDs and suicide bombs.  And I have nothing against Muslims until they try to blow themselves up on one of our planes.<br />
I agree that both the Republican and Democrat parties are in need of serious overhaul, and our government needs to get out of our lives.  However, to accomplish that we need good candidates and good party officials who are of good moral character and strong in their convictions to individual liberty.<br />
I have enjoyed this debate with you.  I don’t believe I’ve changed your mind, nor have you changed mine.  However, I still celebrate the opportunity to freely have this debate in an open forum such as this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#82 the other Jeff - &quot;The point is not for you to see increases in your “individual liberty”, but for people in other countries to see increases in their individual liberties.&quot; 

Are you really serious?  Who else&#039;s liberties should I be worried about?  

Please, take just a minute to really think about what you&#039;ve just said.  

What business does the US have building empires and forcing the New World Order on sovereign nations by invading them and killing millions of their citizens as &quot;collateral damage&quot; in the process?  Is your justification because of the perceived threat of terrorism?  

Have you ever considered that maybe if we weren&#039;t over there they wouldn&#039;t have such a problem with us.  

How would you feel if China or Russia invaded the US and built multiple bases in states such as Arizona, Florida, and Texas?  You&#039;d be pretty friggin&#039; pissed off right?  And even though you were out-manned and out-gunned, you&#039;d still do whatever you could to drive them from your country, right?

In my estimation, what you advocate is infinitely more of a threat to my life, liberty, and property than some cave-dwelling Iraqi who lives halfway across the world.

It&#039;s these types of sentiments propagated by the Republican party and parroted by it&#039;s minions that is the reason your party is currently in the shitter.  It is the division in this country created by the  right/left paradigm propagated by both the Republicans and Democrats is the problem, not Muslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#82 the other Jeff &#8211; &#8220;The point is not for you to see increases in your “individual liberty”, but for people in other countries to see increases in their individual liberties.&#8221; </p>
<p>Are you really serious?  Who else&#8217;s liberties should I be worried about?  </p>
<p>Please, take just a minute to really think about what you&#8217;ve just said.  </p>
<p>What business does the US have building empires and forcing the New World Order on sovereign nations by invading them and killing millions of their citizens as &#8220;collateral damage&#8221; in the process?  Is your justification because of the perceived threat of terrorism?  </p>
<p>Have you ever considered that maybe if we weren&#8217;t over there they wouldn&#8217;t have such a problem with us.  </p>
<p>How would you feel if China or Russia invaded the US and built multiple bases in states such as Arizona, Florida, and Texas?  You&#8217;d be pretty friggin&#8217; pissed off right?  And even though you were out-manned and out-gunned, you&#8217;d still do whatever you could to drive them from your country, right?</p>
<p>In my estimation, what you advocate is infinitely more of a threat to my life, liberty, and property than some cave-dwelling Iraqi who lives halfway across the world.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s these types of sentiments propagated by the Republican party and parroted by it&#8217;s minions that is the reason your party is currently in the shitter.  It is the division in this country created by the  right/left paradigm propagated by both the Republicans and Democrats is the problem, not Muslims.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Horner</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/30/azgop-bombshell-victory-plan-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-216203</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Horner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;money&quot; in the Republican Party in Arizona points to the real problem in politics--corruption. There is an answer, possibly taking until beyone 2012, and that is to prohibit ALL campaign financing by private donors and to publically finance ALL elections (with limits on the spending allowed, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;money&#8221; in the Republican Party in Arizona points to the real problem in politics&#8211;corruption. There is an answer, possibly taking until beyone 2012, and that is to prohibit ALL campaign financing by private donors and to publically finance ALL elections (with limits on the spending allowed, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlist</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/30/azgop-bombshell-victory-plan-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-216201</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Observer and Joe:

If RP is such a &quot;nut job&quot; why are his economic predictions coming to pass?

And I notice that his bill to hold the Federal Reserve to de facto as well as de jure accountability has over 300 co-sponsors.

And in his district he demolished a R.N.C.handpicked Neo by a 75-25 margin!

He must have someting and if it&#039;s insanity I&#039;d advise you hacks to drink the Kool-Aid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Observer and Joe:</p>
<p>If RP is such a &#8220;nut job&#8221; why are his economic predictions coming to pass?</p>
<p>And I notice that his bill to hold the Federal Reserve to de facto as well as de jure accountability has over 300 co-sponsors.</p>
<p>And in his district he demolished a R.N.C.handpicked Neo by a 75-25 margin!</p>
<p>He must have someting and if it&#8217;s insanity I&#8217;d advise you hacks to drink the Kool-Aid!</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/30/azgop-bombshell-victory-plan-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-216193</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is always amazing to see folks quote President Reagan and claim that their platforms are that of Reagan Republicans. Some of us worked for this great man and often are amazed at the self serving interpretations portrayed by some. Respectfully, some of you simply have no idea what you are talking about in this regard. And of course, those who truly preserve and practice his great philosophy about being AMERICAN - you, are to be commended. It is wonderful to admire and aspire to continue in such footsteps but do so with great respect and sincerity. The republican party and the democratic party often appear these days to be eating their young and are polarizing their members. Both parties are often failing to accept responsibility and spend more time debating or defending their bad decesions verses dealing with the affairs of state in a judicious manner. And there are some, who work very hard and are simply shot down because of party politics and numbers. We are so ready to react these days to everything we hear and see and may even be
under the impression that firing a shot across every bow is the answer to every problem. We are simply not listening or considering what is best for America. It is our way or the highway. That is not what Reagan tried to teach us. Ask yourself what have you done personally to help make America better. The blog mongers are out there doing a great job of responding to everything they can and quite frankly their opinons are respected but, many really lack credability in some cases as I stated earlier. If you do not support a candidate or issue thats fine. This ability or election is a wonderful right of our democracy. Do however be respectful and objective when conveying such a message. With regard to Sen. McCain, to say he is not a leader and all he did was sit in a cell as a POW is very bad form and is simply not true. Take the time to look at his continued service to America. Look at his Congressional and Senate Record over the years and judge for yourself. He has gotten it right a good bit of the time and always had Americans at heart.No one can always be right all of the time. Next, ask a brave American soldier about being a POW and what one might endure in defense of our freedoms under such conditions. For those of you who have never served our country in such a capacity it might be time to just think about that for a moment. For those who have served, God Bless you an I am forever in your debt, you make me proud to be an American.

In closing, I gather the radio talk show host and his supporters who are considering a run for the senate will use the power of the microphone to tell everyone about his great name recognition around the world, the respect that he has garnered of foreign leaders, and his indepth understanding of our war on terror. How many times has he been to Iraq and Afganistan and or has talked to the front line to get their input on our objectives. Senator McCain continues to see it first hand and explores the options to make proper decisions. He has always said, he would rather win a war then win an election. 
So let us weigh our options: How has the radio host voted on military appropritions in support of our troops during his tenure? Experience??? 
Read his own words and look at the record and judge for yourself. If he is the guy then vote for him but make that decesion with fact in hand. It is however interesting how some folks master the loop hole act for self gain. Is the talk show host considering a run for America best interest or to pay off a legal debt somehow that he admits is on the books and open.  You might also want to take a look at the non-profit organizations set up on his behalf to gather funds. I wonder if this mentality and deception is good for America? It is going to be a very interesting mid-term election and no matter who the candidates are, they are going to have to go through their own purity test and be accountable to the American people. This 2010 Agenda for our party is very interesting and we as party representatives better realize that America is finally watching and they are loosing confidence in all of us. Do the right thing and let us remember who we work for as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is always amazing to see folks quote President Reagan and claim that their platforms are that of Reagan Republicans. Some of us worked for this great man and often are amazed at the self serving interpretations portrayed by some. Respectfully, some of you simply have no idea what you are talking about in this regard. And of course, those who truly preserve and practice his great philosophy about being AMERICAN &#8211; you, are to be commended. It is wonderful to admire and aspire to continue in such footsteps but do so with great respect and sincerity. The republican party and the democratic party often appear these days to be eating their young and are polarizing their members. Both parties are often failing to accept responsibility and spend more time debating or defending their bad decesions verses dealing with the affairs of state in a judicious manner. And there are some, who work very hard and are simply shot down because of party politics and numbers. We are so ready to react these days to everything we hear and see and may even be<br />
under the impression that firing a shot across every bow is the answer to every problem. We are simply not listening or considering what is best for America. It is our way or the highway. That is not what Reagan tried to teach us. Ask yourself what have you done personally to help make America better. The blog mongers are out there doing a great job of responding to everything they can and quite frankly their opinons are respected but, many really lack credability in some cases as I stated earlier. If you do not support a candidate or issue thats fine. This ability or election is a wonderful right of our democracy. Do however be respectful and objective when conveying such a message. With regard to Sen. McCain, to say he is not a leader and all he did was sit in a cell as a POW is very bad form and is simply not true. Take the time to look at his continued service to America. Look at his Congressional and Senate Record over the years and judge for yourself. He has gotten it right a good bit of the time and always had Americans at heart.No one can always be right all of the time. Next, ask a brave American soldier about being a POW and what one might endure in defense of our freedoms under such conditions. For those of you who have never served our country in such a capacity it might be time to just think about that for a moment. For those who have served, God Bless you an I am forever in your debt, you make me proud to be an American.</p>
<p>In closing, I gather the radio talk show host and his supporters who are considering a run for the senate will use the power of the microphone to tell everyone about his great name recognition around the world, the respect that he has garnered of foreign leaders, and his indepth understanding of our war on terror. How many times has he been to Iraq and Afganistan and or has talked to the front line to get their input on our objectives. Senator McCain continues to see it first hand and explores the options to make proper decisions. He has always said, he would rather win a war then win an election.<br />
So let us weigh our options: How has the radio host voted on military appropritions in support of our troops during his tenure? Experience???<br />
Read his own words and look at the record and judge for yourself. If he is the guy then vote for him but make that decesion with fact in hand. It is however interesting how some folks master the loop hole act for self gain. Is the talk show host considering a run for America best interest or to pay off a legal debt somehow that he admits is on the books and open.  You might also want to take a look at the non-profit organizations set up on his behalf to gather funds. I wonder if this mentality and deception is good for America? It is going to be a very interesting mid-term election and no matter who the candidates are, they are going to have to go through their own purity test and be accountable to the American people. This 2010 Agenda for our party is very interesting and we as party representatives better realize that America is finally watching and they are loosing confidence in all of us. Do the right thing and let us remember who we work for as well.</p>
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		<title>By: The other Jeff</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/30/azgop-bombshell-victory-plan-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-216190</link>
		<dc:creator>The other Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jet...The point is not for you to see increases in your &quot;individual liberty&quot;, but for people in other countries to see increases in their individual liberties.  Here, you can safely blast your country&#039;s actions, government, military, and all things American, without fear of being hunted down, jailed and executed for being a traitor to the country.  Not many other countries allow you such liberty.  How many countries allow their people to directly choose their government?  How many countries allow their people to influence their laws and the government&#039;s ability to enforce those laws?  Instead of complaining about how your liberty hasn&#039;t increased, how about celebrating the liberty you haven&#039;t lost because people are constantly defending those liberties with their lives?  How about working to defend those liberties here at home?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jet&#8230;The point is not for you to see increases in your &#8220;individual liberty&#8221;, but for people in other countries to see increases in their individual liberties.  Here, you can safely blast your country&#8217;s actions, government, military, and all things American, without fear of being hunted down, jailed and executed for being a traitor to the country.  Not many other countries allow you such liberty.  How many countries allow their people to directly choose their government?  How many countries allow their people to influence their laws and the government&#8217;s ability to enforce those laws?  Instead of complaining about how your liberty hasn&#8217;t increased, how about celebrating the liberty you haven&#8217;t lost because people are constantly defending those liberties with their lives?  How about working to defend those liberties here at home?</p>
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