Comments on: CD5 candidate Jim Ward funded by open borders Chamber of Commerce http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/ Arizona Politics, News, Commentary and Information with a Blatantly Conservative Worldview Presented by an Alliance of Writers, Activists, Consultants and Government Insiders. Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:01:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Reality http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213768 Reality Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:14:31 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213768 Jim Ward isn't going to win. Bittersmith isn't going to win. Schwiekert again? Nope. Wnuck? Please. C'mon guys! Where are the real candidates? Sometimes I think that Sonoran Alliance must be working for Mitchell, because nobody works harder to help Harry keep a tight grip on a district that the GOP should own. Nothing but vicious posts against fellow GOPers on this site instead of an ounce of energy exposing the liberal scourge representing us in Congress. Jim Ward isn’t going to win. Bittersmith isn’t going to win. Schwiekert again? Nope. Wnuck? Please.

C’mon guys! Where are the real candidates?

Sometimes I think that Sonoran Alliance must be working for Mitchell, because nobody works harder to help Harry keep a tight grip on a district that the GOP should own. Nothing but vicious posts against fellow GOPers on this site instead of an ounce of energy exposing the liberal scourge representing us in Congress.

]]> By: Persol http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213741 Persol Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:49:01 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213741 "Ward does not represent the interests of Arizonans, especially Republicans who want to protect our borders and enforce our laws against illegal immigration. 69% of Arizonans support employer sanctions against businesses that hire illegal immigrants." Did Jim Ward every say that he doesn't support employer sanctions against businesses that hire illegal immigrants? If so, please post that quote. Personally, I think Jim Ward can't beat Harry Mitchell and probably shouldn't be the candidate in CD5. So I am no Jim Ward supporter. But I also think a lot of the posts on Sonoran Alliance lately read like crappy political negative attack ads rather than blog posts. “Ward does not represent the interests of Arizonans, especially Republicans who want to protect our borders and enforce our laws against illegal immigration. 69% of Arizonans support employer sanctions against businesses that hire illegal immigrants.”

Did Jim Ward every say that he doesn’t support employer sanctions against businesses that hire illegal immigrants? If so, please post that quote.

Personally, I think Jim Ward can’t beat Harry Mitchell and probably shouldn’t be the candidate in CD5. So I am no Jim Ward supporter.

But I also think a lot of the posts on Sonoran Alliance lately read like crappy political negative attack ads rather than blog posts.

]]> By: nightcrawler http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213739 nightcrawler Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:02:14 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213739 Chewie, Give the immigration song and dance a rest. Nobody cares. Seriously. Many years ago it was abortion that was the litmus test, these days it is immigration. Not all small business owners are "open border" proponents. Immigration has slowed down primarily due to the bad economy in general and lack of construction jobs more specifically. Candidates who run primarily (no pun intended) on immigration issues will get beat. CD5 is a case in point. JD lost his seat because of over the top rhetoric in 2006. Do you really feel 2010 will be different ? Chewie,

Give the immigration song and dance a rest. Nobody cares. Seriously. Many years ago it was abortion that was the litmus test, these days it is immigration. Not all small business owners are “open border” proponents. Immigration has slowed down primarily due to the bad economy in general and lack of construction jobs more specifically. Candidates who run primarily (no pun intended) on immigration issues will get beat. CD5 is a case in point. JD lost his seat because of over the top rhetoric in 2006.
Do you really feel 2010 will be different ?

]]> By: Snickers http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213711 Snickers Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:11:32 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213711 I heard his father in law IS that senator. I heard his father in law IS that senator.

]]> By: DSW http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213709 DSW Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:59:12 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213709 I thought that was an old photo of Roger Ebert! I thought that was an old photo of Roger Ebert!

]]> By: Conservative 2 the Core http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213669 Conservative 2 the Core Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:39:07 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213669 Ward doesn't have a chance, everybody knows his campaign is imploding. The only reason he has done anything is that his father in law is friends with a certain US Senator. Hardly a qualification for Congress. Ward doesn’t have a chance, everybody knows his campaign is imploding. The only reason he has done anything is that his father in law is friends with a certain US Senator.

Hardly a qualification for Congress.

]]> By: ron http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213661 ron Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:07:33 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213661 This is the ongoing craziness in the GOP. So if Ward wins the primary, you will run an indie against him at the last minutes and if Mitchell wins, you will say, "I'd sooner have a D than a RINO." Can anyone say NY23? Of course, maybe the D's are putting some of these guys up to this to split the vote? Oh, of course, the R's would never do that.. right! This is the ongoing craziness in the GOP. So if Ward wins the primary, you will run an indie against him at the last minutes and if Mitchell wins, you will say, “I’d sooner have a D than a RINO.” Can anyone say NY23? Of course, maybe the D’s are putting some of these guys up to this to split the vote? Oh, of course, the R’s would never do that.. right!

]]> By: Phx Phil http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213649 Phx Phil Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:14:43 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213649 Great post SA. But, I got a campaign letter from new LD20 Chaiman, Anthony Miller. Miller is a McCain staffer and Miller had Schweikert's endorsement. Is Schweikert making a quiet move into the McAmnesty camp? Great post SA. But, I got a campaign letter from new LD20 Chaiman, Anthony Miller. Miller is a McCain staffer and Miller had Schweikert’s endorsement. Is Schweikert making a quiet move into the McAmnesty camp?

]]> By: Ann http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213648 Ann Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:10:53 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213648 Oh brother! Somebody stop this guy, can his writing get any worse? Such over the top distortions are the kind of stuff Emily Bittner used to post, so now we have it on a conservative web site? Is this what SA wants as its reputation and associations? Lies, more lies, and distortions? Support your candidate Chewie...but stop with the old, bad photos and the absolute purposeful lies intended to mislead. Oh brother! Somebody stop this guy, can his writing get any worse? Such over the top distortions are the kind of stuff Emily Bittner used to post, so now we have it on a conservative web site? Is this what SA wants as its reputation and associations? Lies, more lies, and distortions?

Support your candidate Chewie…but stop with the old, bad photos and the absolute purposeful lies intended to mislead.

]]> By: Snickers http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213643 Snickers Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:46:54 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213643 Looks like it's not really a fundraiser. I don't see it as an endorsement from the Chamber, just an invitation for members to get free booze. It's like one of those timeshare events, if you stay for the whole hour you get a free tv. Looks like it’s not really a fundraiser. I don’t see it as an endorsement from the Chamber, just an invitation for members to get free booze.

It’s like one of those timeshare events, if you stay for the whole hour you get a free tv.

]]> By: johnny http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213641 johnny Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:08:19 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213641 One issue I do have with the post chewie is where did you get the old picture of Ward? Are you also attempting to make him look bad or make fun of his weight by showing him in this old picture? This seems like another post I saw last month here http://notjimward.wordpress.com/ This site which is dedicated to attacking Jim Ward compares him to John Candy and has tags under such as "fatties" and "I love food" Now I am not saying this you Chewie but it has similar overtones and really does not further the discourse. It would not have been hard to find a normal picture of him. Things like that and this website (which I can only assume is run by the only candidate with the kind of resources to run other websites as well as their own) does not help the level of discourse and is pretty low. Attack him on the issues, or even as a nonviable candidate (which he is) but not their appearance.... One issue I do have with the post chewie is where did you get the old picture of Ward?

Are you also attempting to make him look bad or make fun of his weight by showing him in this old picture?

This seems like another post I saw last month here http://notjimward.wordpress.com/

This site which is dedicated to attacking Jim Ward compares him to John Candy and has tags under such as “fatties” and “I love food”

Now I am not saying this you Chewie but it has similar overtones and really does not further the discourse. It would not have been hard to find a normal picture of him.

Things like that and this website (which I can only assume is run by the only candidate with the kind of resources to run other websites as well as their own) does not help the level of discourse and is pretty low.

Attack him on the issues, or even as a nonviable candidate (which he is) but not their appearance….

]]> By: DSW http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213640 DSW Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:04:45 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213640 Iris, You must have read my quotes in yesterday's <i>Arizona Capitol Times</i> article. Immigration is still a major issue to Arizonans and remains enmeshed in many issues. So which of the candidates are most pronounced and proven on this issue? Harry Mitchell certainly is NOT. Iris,

You must have read my quotes in yesterday’s Arizona Capitol Times article. Immigration is still a major issue to Arizonans and remains enmeshed in many issues. So which of the candidates are most pronounced and proven on this issue? Harry Mitchell certainly is NOT.

]]> By: Iris Lynch http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213635 Iris Lynch Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:55:01 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213635 Excuse me, but that ONE issue IMMIGRATION has a negative effect on just about any issue you can name...not 100%, but close. Jobs! law and order. health care. education. murder, rape, child rape, ...incarceration...wages...interpreters..over population...voting...(except in AZ) housing and that is not all! It is amazing how many problems we could solve with simply enforcing our immigration laws which are there for good reasons. Excuse me, but that ONE issue IMMIGRATION has a negative effect on just about any issue you can name…not 100%, but close. Jobs! law and order. health care. education. murder, rape, child rape, …incarceration…wages…interpreters..over population…voting…(except in AZ) housing and that is not all! It is amazing how many problems we could solve with simply enforcing our immigration laws which are there for good reasons.

]]> By: AZGOPgal http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213634 AZGOPgal Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:22:16 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213634 Hey Frank - Did you read my comment? No stab at Schweikert. I'm not in any camp - just not into attacking or smearing fellow Republicans. Hey Frank – Did you read my comment? No stab at Schweikert. I’m not in any camp – just not into attacking or smearing fellow Republicans.

]]> By: The Klute http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/12/04/cd5-candidate-jim-ward-funded-by-open-borders-chamber-of-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-213629 The Klute Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:47:13 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=6382#comment-213629 Dude with the Blue/White striped shirt under the "rationing" sign? Dude with the Blue/White striped shirt under the “rationing” sign?

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