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	<title>Comments on: A Man with a Gun!!  In Arizona its all good&#8230; we can open carry loaded</title>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Klute, you&#039;re my favorite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klute, you&#8217;re my favorite.</p>
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		<title>By: The Klute</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Klute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VV,

I don&#039;t have to, because I&#039;ve already had to debunk this little bit of right-wing hysteria for my brother-in-law. The ACORN link was another phantom... 

&quot;More wack and stack by your local state mercenaries.&quot;

Good to know we&#039;ll be able to see you at the National Day of Action on January 16th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VV,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have to, because I&#8217;ve already had to debunk this little bit of right-wing hysteria for my brother-in-law. The ACORN link was another phantom&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8220;More wack and stack by your local state mercenaries.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good to know we&#8217;ll be able to see you at the National Day of Action on January 16th.</p>
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		<title>By: Veritas Vincit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veritas Vincit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for finding the link and picture.  Now, do a little more than google and research a bit to find out how they were related to A.C.O.R.N.

re: police... when they shoot the unarmed man at the B.A.R.T. station in Oakland Ca on New Years Eve or the 18 year old kid in Queens just the other day... how many rounds in the kids back??  Or how about the guy on his wedding day?  More wack and stack by your local state mercenaries.

Imagine, a slam poet in combat boots, a trench coat with a gun.  If that isn&#039;t enough to call the Brady Bunch I don&#039;t know what is.  but that&#039;s our Klute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for finding the link and picture.  Now, do a little more than google and research a bit to find out how they were related to A.C.O.R.N.</p>
<p>re: police&#8230; when they shoot the unarmed man at the B.A.R.T. station in Oakland Ca on New Years Eve or the 18 year old kid in Queens just the other day&#8230; how many rounds in the kids back??  Or how about the guy on his wedding day?  More wack and stack by your local state mercenaries.</p>
<p>Imagine, a slam poet in combat boots, a trench coat with a gun.  If that isn&#8217;t enough to call the Brady Bunch I don&#8217;t know what is.  but that&#8217;s our Klute.</p>
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		<title>By: The Klute</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Klute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Klute, guess you didn’t see the two ACORN thugs with night sticks in at the Pittsburgh polling place.&quot;

No, and neither did you.  What you&#039;re referring to is this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Philadelphia_polling_place_security_patrols_2008.png

And that was 1. in Philadelphia and 2. New Black Panther Party members, not members of ACORN.  But I&#039;m sure whatever mailing list you subscribe to (Stormfront, National Alliance, whatever) put up a post with it calling them ACORN people, and you, with an inability to question anything that validates your already deep-seated prejudices, took it as fact and added it to the litany of things you think you know.    

&quot;...yes, the police are the state mercenaries when they forget the &#039;protect and serve&#039; concept.&quot;

Such as?

&quot;...what’s your problem with the 2nd Amendment? A firearm too much for you to handle?&quot;

No, although admittedly I&#039;m not the best shot in the world.  And where did Todd and I question the 2nd Amendment, you old fool - is the dementia hitting you extra hard today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Klute, guess you didn’t see the two ACORN thugs with night sticks in at the Pittsburgh polling place.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, and neither did you.  What you&#8217;re referring to is this:</p>
<p><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Philadelphia_polling_place_security_patrols_2008.png" rel="nofollow">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Philadelphia_polling_place_security_patrols_2008.png</a></p>
<p>And that was 1. in Philadelphia and 2. New Black Panther Party members, not members of ACORN.  But I&#8217;m sure whatever mailing list you subscribe to (Stormfront, National Alliance, whatever) put up a post with it calling them ACORN people, and you, with an inability to question anything that validates your already deep-seated prejudices, took it as fact and added it to the litany of things you think you know.    </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;yes, the police are the state mercenaries when they forget the &#8216;protect and serve&#8217; concept.&#8221;</p>
<p>Such as?</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;what’s your problem with the 2nd Amendment? A firearm too much for you to handle?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, although admittedly I&#8217;m not the best shot in the world.  And where did Todd and I question the 2nd Amendment, you old fool &#8211; is the dementia hitting you extra hard today?</p>
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		<title>By: Veritas Vincit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veritas Vincit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Klute and Todd ... what&#039;s your problem with the 2nd Amendment?  A firearm too much for you to handle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klute and Todd &#8230; what&#8217;s your problem with the 2nd Amendment?  A firearm too much for you to handle?</p>
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		<title>By: Veritas Vincit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veritas Vincit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd ... &quot;...in a threatening manner&quot;  Yeah, watch the film clip (or talk to someone who was there)

Klute, guess you didn&#039;t see the two ACORN thugs with night sticks in at the Pittsburgh polling place.

and yes, the police are the state mercenaries when they forget the &quot;protect and serve&quot; concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd &#8230; &#8220;&#8230;in a threatening manner&#8221;  Yeah, watch the film clip (or talk to someone who was there)</p>
<p>Klute, guess you didn&#8217;t see the two ACORN thugs with night sticks in at the Pittsburgh polling place.</p>
<p>and yes, the police are the state mercenaries when they forget the &#8220;protect and serve&#8221; concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Snickers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snickers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...if some bad guy is unlucky enough to pick that time and place to play tough guy...&quot;

If that&#039;s why you carry a firearm then I&#039;m afraid you&#039;re missing the very point I suspect you&#039;re trying to make.  People carry for different reasons, some not so good.  Using your weapon to respond to a &quot;tough guy&quot; scenario is not a good idea.  You&#039;re already taking a stance that puts you in a position of authority over others, which I sure you don&#039;t intend, do you?

Carrying concealed actually makes you less of a target for some crackhead that otherwise thinks he needs to kill you first, then everyone else in the coffee shop.

It&#039;s like robbing a bank...it makes a lot of sense to take out the guards first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;if some bad guy is unlucky enough to pick that time and place to play tough guy&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s why you carry a firearm then I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;re missing the very point I suspect you&#8217;re trying to make.  People carry for different reasons, some not so good.  Using your weapon to respond to a &#8220;tough guy&#8221; scenario is not a good idea.  You&#8217;re already taking a stance that puts you in a position of authority over others, which I sure you don&#8217;t intend, do you?</p>
<p>Carrying concealed actually makes you less of a target for some crackhead that otherwise thinks he needs to kill you first, then everyone else in the coffee shop.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like robbing a bank&#8230;it makes a lot of sense to take out the guards first.</p>
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		<title>By: The Klute</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Klute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also VV, do you really sign on to calling police &quot;state mercenaries&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also VV, do you really sign on to calling police &#8220;state mercenaries&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: The Klute</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Klute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As for the A.C.O.R.N. folks at the polls? There weren’t defending anything – they were imported intimidation of voters.&quot;

Really?  ACORN was intimidating voters?  Where? 

I thought the rub with ACORN was that they were fraudulently registering voters, and the New Black Panther Party was intimidating them. You&#039;ve gotta get your paranoia right, VV.

&quot;Defending is one thing; intimidation with a gun is quite another.&quot;

And of course, you&#039;re the sole arbiter of what&#039;s intimidating, right VV?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for the A.C.O.R.N. folks at the polls? There weren’t defending anything – they were imported intimidation of voters.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really?  ACORN was intimidating voters?  Where? </p>
<p>I thought the rub with ACORN was that they were fraudulently registering voters, and the New Black Panther Party was intimidating them. You&#8217;ve gotta get your paranoia right, VV.</p>
<p>&#8220;Defending is one thing; intimidation with a gun is quite another.&#8221;</p>
<p>And of course, you&#8217;re the sole arbiter of what&#8217;s intimidating, right VV?</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There weren’t defending themselves but acting in a threatening manner.&quot;

By carrying around loaded guns? I thought the point of this post was that this should be a citizen&#039;s right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There weren’t defending themselves but acting in a threatening manner.&#8221;</p>
<p>By carrying around loaded guns? I thought the point of this post was that this should be a citizen&#8217;s right.</p>
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		<title>By: Veritas Vincit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veritas Vincit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My exact quote: &quot;Sorry, wasn’t a R versus D matter but it was elected bums afraid of an armed public – so California disarmed the public.&quot;

As for the A.C.O.R.N. folks at the polls?  There weren&#039;t defending anything - they were imported intimidation of voters.

As for the Black Panthers in California?  There weren&#039;t defending themselves but acting in a threatening manner.

Defending is one thing; intimidation with a gun is quite another.

But Todd knows that already, he&#039;s just trying desperately to be relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My exact quote: &#8220;Sorry, wasn’t a R versus D matter but it was elected bums afraid of an armed public – so California disarmed the public.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for the A.C.O.R.N. folks at the polls?  There weren&#8217;t defending anything &#8211; they were imported intimidation of voters.</p>
<p>As for the Black Panthers in California?  There weren&#8217;t defending themselves but acting in a threatening manner.</p>
<p>Defending is one thing; intimidation with a gun is quite another.</p>
<p>But Todd knows that already, he&#8217;s just trying desperately to be relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Veritas Vincit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veritas Vincit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd, what the hell are you blathering about?
re: #7 and #1

It must be true, liberalism is a mental disorder because Todd cannot complete a coherent thought on topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd, what the hell are you blathering about?<br />
re: #7 and #1</p>
<p>It must be true, liberalism is a mental disorder because Todd cannot complete a coherent thought on topic.</p>
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		<title>By: wanumba</title>
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		<dc:creator>wanumba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Democrat Party has been in the  forefront of restricting Blacks from 2nd Amendment Rights. THe NRA and the GOP have supported 2nd Amendment Rights for African-Americans, particularly to provide self-defense against the KKK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Democrat Party has been in the  forefront of restricting Blacks from 2nd Amendment Rights. THe NRA and the GOP have supported 2nd Amendment Rights for African-Americans, particularly to provide self-defense against the KKK.</p>
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		<title>By: Sameer Parekh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sameer Parekh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>todd: I wasn&#039;t alive when the black panthers visiting the state house with their guns. Therefore I was unable to &quot;get exercised&quot; about it. (Although I do enjoy exercising with firearms.)

That said, I support the right of anyone to take up arms to defend themselves against the government and other predators, whether they are black, white, or green.

Ronald Reagan erred when he supported this ban in the wake of the Black Panther activity. No one is perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>todd: I wasn&#8217;t alive when the black panthers visiting the state house with their guns. Therefore I was unable to &#8220;get exercised&#8221; about it. (Although I do enjoy exercising with firearms.)</p>
<p>That said, I support the right of anyone to take up arms to defend themselves against the government and other predators, whether they are black, white, or green.</p>
<p>Ronald Reagan erred when he supported this ban in the wake of the Black Panther activity. No one is perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iris,
My point is not to argue the past but rather demonstrate the rank hypocrisy of people like VV who get exercised and begin all the chest thumping about gun rights but care little if those rights are taken from others who disagree with them. This is typical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iris,<br />
My point is not to argue the past but rather demonstrate the rank hypocrisy of people like VV who get exercised and begin all the chest thumping about gun rights but care little if those rights are taken from others who disagree with them. This is typical.</p>
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