The horrid deathcare bill mandates government access to the bank accounts of each and every one of us, with the ability to suck funds out of it. With a few keystrokes, they could impoverish us all. At the least, a government should not have this kind of control over our lives. If you want this, sign up for it, but leave me out of it. There are MUCH better ways to solve the legitimate problems we do have.

Your inane name calling and mocking are demeaning to the conversation, and reflect badly on your own intellectual capabliities. It is better to address real issues. He who hits first or calls name admits he has run out of ideas.

“THE HOUSE TRI-COMMITTEE “HEALTH CARE REFORM” BILL, H.R 3200: THE GREATEST EXPANSION OF ABORTION SINCE ROE v. WADE”

So what?

“Get Serious TucsonV, get your Wildcat on as you are, like the rest of the Blue Man Crew, singing talking points.”

^I don’t know what this means.^

You won’t subsidize abortion but you’re more than happy to subsidize the snakehandlers on the 700 club, right?

From my perspective, I can’t help but wonder how many victims of rape and incest might have been justifiably subsidized for abortions instead of funding the bigots, liars and simpletons tossing vipers around on the 700 club, praising glory to their imaginary friend up in the sky.

Did you know that Cap and Trade is a conservative idea? The idea of marketing polution through tradeable permits IS a conservative idea. It has been adopted because it is a market approach to make people pay for the destruction they do AND it gives companies the flexibility to find their own ways to reduce polution…and even profit from it when they do a better job than others and trade their permits.

I bet most of you didn’t even know that, did you?

How do I know? I was once a student of the conservative/libertarian based Center for Public Choice, Institute for Humane Studies, and the Political Economy Research Center that proferred these very ideas during Reagan and Bush one.

Shocking that cap and trade…shocking.

Its more proof that most of you are afraid of the boogie man, don’t read or understand the very documents you say that Senators and Congressmen don’t read, and that you would rail against ANYTHING that the President and Congress does without question.

Completely spontaneous. Right.

And please, name one or two of these supposed policy experts that understand euthanasia to be
implied in the language.

Sara Palin doesn’t count as a policy expert.

It’s another bill with hundreds of pages that nobody in congress has read. Just like the Patriot Act, NAFTA, Cap and Tax, and the recent stimulus bill just to name a few.

In all cases, false or misleading Democratic or Republican talking points are not what will be enforced in the courts or by the thugs of whatever administration is in power. Should it become law, Cap and Tax will be fiercely enforced and expanded by the next Repubilcan administration just as warrantless wiretapping and torture are today.

Here are some of the more contentious points concerning this healthcare reform bill. As always, do your own research:
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2009/07/whats-in-healthacre-bill.html

Then get creative and think of all the possible ways our federal government, no matter who’s in charge, will abuse their new power. Because if they can, they will.

Unless We The People fight back. Which is what seems to be FINALLY happening now.

Where in the bill does it allow abortions to be federally funded…and on demand…as they say it.

It is more fearmongering and more salvos against the health plan. Great way to rally the right to lifers though.

Look…the Hyde Amendment is still law.

“THE HOUSE TRI-COMMITTEE “HEALTH CARE REFORM” BILL, H.R 3200:
THE GREATEST EXPANSION OF ABORTION SINCE ROE v. WADE

The health care restructuring bill pending in the U .S. House of Representatives, backed by the Obama White House and titled “America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009″ (H.R. 3200),
contains provisions that will result in federally mandated coverage of abortion on demand in virtually all of America’s health plans. Once abortion is established as a federal “essential benefit,” the bill will also require “access” to elective abortion, which will require many issuers
to establish and staff new abortion-providing sites. Moreover, state laws that impede “access” to elective abortion (such as waiting periods and parental notification requirements) may be nullified as conflicting with the purposes of the federal law. In addition, the bill will result in the massive subsidization of elective abortion with tax dollars…”

Read more here: http://www.nrlc.org/AHC/HR3200NRLCfactsheet.pdf

Get Serious TucsonV, get your Wildcat on as you are, like the rest of the Blue Man Crew, singing talking points. Right-to-life is not just about babies euthanized, but it is also about religious freedom. I am NOT subsidizing abortion with my tax dollars.
It’s against my religious freedom. I see it as bad as making a black man drink from a fountain outside. Abortion is racist and abjectly Evil, with a capital E. I am already planning on bringing suit if this legislation goes through with these sweeping options and vague loop holes.

Attorneys, we need your eyes and support. I want to block it all on based on religious freedom. But then that’s Plan B. Luckily, the POTUS Admin’s arrogant Capone Crew are stepping in it, and will mess themselves all up before we get a bill anyway. I hope…

So you tort reformers believe that when a loved one is on their operating table and they make a mistake that your loved one should not be compensated for pain, suffering, compensatory damages, and even punished if their behavior recklessly harmed them?

Hmmmmm see, most of you tort reformers again are buying the insurance companies rhetoric (who are a helluva a lot richer than YOU are) over that of truth. You are siding with the most power and rich (as the Tea party is) over those of the needy.

What a rebellious group you are!!!!!

The consensus was that the current system needs reform, and tort reform is a good place to start, but that noone wants a government takeover of the entire system.

All in all, a great day shared by fellow patriots who got together and voiced their opinions in an orderly fashion.