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		<title>By: Alicia Gegner</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/08/08/cincinnatus-not-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-196904</link>
		<dc:creator>Alicia Gegner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who is Rachel Alexander? Wasn&#039;t she in a horse race?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who is Rachel Alexander? Wasn&#8217;t she in a horse race?</p>
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		<title>By: Billbo</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/08/08/cincinnatus-not-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-196810</link>
		<dc:creator>Billbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The latest attacks by Barry Soetoro against those who oppose him are a great example of why we fear the &quot;crown.&quot;  Free speech as long as you say what you are supposed to say.  You can say Ronald Reagan was a lousy actor, but you can&#039;t say Obama is a lousy president.  That&#039;s ridiculous, we know Reagan was a good actor.

See if this sounds familiar:
&quot;Freedom of speech of the individual citizen must be based on the four basic principles of insisting on the socialist road, the dictatorship of the proletariat, the leadership of the party, and the Marxism-Leninism-Mao Zedong thought.  The citizen has only the freedom to support these principles and not the freedom to oppose them...&quot;

No it wasn&#039;t Obama...yet.  It was Wei Jing-sheng, a prosecutor in China.  Our current/temporary Governor is also rumored to retaliate against people opposing her.

Fear of the &quot;Crown&quot; is increasing.  My government calls me a terrorist and un american because I support the Constitution and speak out.  Few can afford the luxury of public exposure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The latest attacks by Barry Soetoro against those who oppose him are a great example of why we fear the &#8220;crown.&#8221;  Free speech as long as you say what you are supposed to say.  You can say Ronald Reagan was a lousy actor, but you can&#8217;t say Obama is a lousy president.  That&#8217;s ridiculous, we know Reagan was a good actor.</p>
<p>See if this sounds familiar:<br />
&#8220;Freedom of speech of the individual citizen must be based on the four basic principles of insisting on the socialist road, the dictatorship of the proletariat, the leadership of the party, and the Marxism-Leninism-Mao Zedong thought.  The citizen has only the freedom to support these principles and not the freedom to oppose them&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>No it wasn&#8217;t Obama&#8230;yet.  It was Wei Jing-sheng, a prosecutor in China.  Our current/temporary Governor is also rumored to retaliate against people opposing her.</p>
<p>Fear of the &#8220;Crown&#8221; is increasing.  My government calls me a terrorist and un american because I support the Constitution and speak out.  Few can afford the luxury of public exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfy</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/08/08/cincinnatus-not-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-196626</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you remove anonymity you&#039;ll get a lot fewer comments.  I know it&#039;s frustrating, if you are a public figure, to watch nameless people attack you.  It&#039;s certainly frustrating when you&#039;re not a public figure if it happens to you.  I am sure it&#039;s also frustrating to be Ann Kirkpatrick the other day when she was basically shouted down and kicked out of her own town hall.  So it&#039;s not just a blog thing.

But as an anonymous commenter, I can&#039;t help but laugh when I chime in on some topic and another commenter immediately wants to know who I am.  That&#039;s just weird.

If I was the person who called Kirkpatrick a &quot;nitwit&quot; at that meeting does it really matter who I am?  And if it does, who exactly does it matter to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you remove anonymity you&#8217;ll get a lot fewer comments.  I know it&#8217;s frustrating, if you are a public figure, to watch nameless people attack you.  It&#8217;s certainly frustrating when you&#8217;re not a public figure if it happens to you.  I am sure it&#8217;s also frustrating to be Ann Kirkpatrick the other day when she was basically shouted down and kicked out of her own town hall.  So it&#8217;s not just a blog thing.</p>
<p>But as an anonymous commenter, I can&#8217;t help but laugh when I chime in on some topic and another commenter immediately wants to know who I am.  That&#8217;s just weird.</p>
<p>If I was the person who called Kirkpatrick a &#8220;nitwit&#8221; at that meeting does it really matter who I am?  And if it does, who exactly does it matter to?</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If one chooses to use a pen name, or as I do just part of my name, it can be for a good reason...I have personal and professional reasons that would limit my ability to speak freely.  With that said, I do not believe it gives me cover to make accusations that I cannot validate or know to be absolutely correct.  I can have an opinion and express it but I cannot spread lies, innuendo, gossip, or purposefully distort the truth.  

That is the trade off.  No one should face a ghost and have to defend their honor against an untraceable and unidentifiable assault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one chooses to use a pen name, or as I do just part of my name, it can be for a good reason&#8230;I have personal and professional reasons that would limit my ability to speak freely.  With that said, I do not believe it gives me cover to make accusations that I cannot validate or know to be absolutely correct.  I can have an opinion and express it but I cannot spread lies, innuendo, gossip, or purposefully distort the truth.  </p>
<p>That is the trade off.  No one should face a ghost and have to defend their honor against an untraceable and unidentifiable assault.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Grayson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Grayson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Horst.  It&#039;s true that it&#039;s the content of your material that is important -- and that&#039;s true in every endeavor of communication -- what&#039;s the reason for a pseudonym?

Some pen names are just for effect, or they may have a good reason at one time but no longer do so.  Everyone knew Mark Twain was Samuel Langhorne Clemens.

George Eliot and George Sand wrote under men&#039;s names when women writers weren&#039;t often taken seriously.

But among political bloggers, I don&#039;t see the reason for anonymity unless it&#039;s part of a masssive art project.  Indeed, sometimes I think this whole blog and all its contents are written by some Democratic party officials or indie liberal operatives in order to make Arizona conservative Republicans look ridiculous, given the nature of so many of the posts.

But there are other very conservative bloggers with views I find just as laughable who post under their real names.

The only reason I can think of is that people are worried about conflicts of interest they have in the real world or that they feel that knowledge of their views might negatively affect their employment or status in the community.

But given anonymity, people are not taking responsibility for their actions.  And I thought one of the virtues of conservative philosophy was that people should take responsibility for their actions.

On the other side, I recognize that anonymous speech has had a role in American history.  After all, &quot;Publius&quot; was credited with the Federalist Papers written by Jefferson, Madison and Jay.  

The Supreme Court has also ruled repeatedly that the right to anonymous free speech is protected by the First Amendment. In McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission (1995), the Court wrote, &quot;Protections for anonymous speech are vital to democratic discourse. Allowing dissenters to shield their identities frees them to express critical, minority views . . . Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. . . . It thus exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights, and of the First Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from retaliation . . . at the hand of an intolerant society.&quot;

And obviously in repressive societies, people challenging government policies of dictators must sometimes use pseudonyms or they would be killed.

So I guess it is a matter of how you balance out competing concerns.  I certainly support anyone who wishes to post anonymously, but you have to understand that it raises questions in many people&#039;s minds about the motives of the author.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Horst.  It&#8217;s true that it&#8217;s the content of your material that is important &#8212; and that&#8217;s true in every endeavor of communication &#8212; what&#8217;s the reason for a pseudonym?</p>
<p>Some pen names are just for effect, or they may have a good reason at one time but no longer do so.  Everyone knew Mark Twain was Samuel Langhorne Clemens.</p>
<p>George Eliot and George Sand wrote under men&#8217;s names when women writers weren&#8217;t often taken seriously.</p>
<p>But among political bloggers, I don&#8217;t see the reason for anonymity unless it&#8217;s part of a masssive art project.  Indeed, sometimes I think this whole blog and all its contents are written by some Democratic party officials or indie liberal operatives in order to make Arizona conservative Republicans look ridiculous, given the nature of so many of the posts.</p>
<p>But there are other very conservative bloggers with views I find just as laughable who post under their real names.</p>
<p>The only reason I can think of is that people are worried about conflicts of interest they have in the real world or that they feel that knowledge of their views might negatively affect their employment or status in the community.</p>
<p>But given anonymity, people are not taking responsibility for their actions.  And I thought one of the virtues of conservative philosophy was that people should take responsibility for their actions.</p>
<p>On the other side, I recognize that anonymous speech has had a role in American history.  After all, &#8220;Publius&#8221; was credited with the Federalist Papers written by Jefferson, Madison and Jay.  </p>
<p>The Supreme Court has also ruled repeatedly that the right to anonymous free speech is protected by the First Amendment. In McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission (1995), the Court wrote, &#8220;Protections for anonymous speech are vital to democratic discourse. Allowing dissenters to shield their identities frees them to express critical, minority views . . . Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. . . . It thus exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights, and of the First Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from retaliation . . . at the hand of an intolerant society.&#8221;</p>
<p>And obviously in repressive societies, people challenging government policies of dictators must sometimes use pseudonyms or they would be killed.</p>
<p>So I guess it is a matter of how you balance out competing concerns.  I certainly support anyone who wishes to post anonymously, but you have to understand that it raises questions in many people&#8217;s minds about the motives of the author.</p>
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		<title>By: Veritas Vincit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veritas Vincit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Letting it all hang out there again are we Horst?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letting it all hang out there again are we Horst?</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfy</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/08/08/cincinnatus-not-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-196417</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Horst is missing the point about what makes a blogger.  It&#039;s not who you are, it&#039;s what you have to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horst is missing the point about what makes a blogger.  It&#8217;s not who you are, it&#8217;s what you have to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Horst Kraus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horst Kraus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You all see, if you posted under your real name you wouldn&#039;t have this problem.
Besides, folks would then know that you know what it is you are talking about. Your integrity, provided you have any, would give it the weight and the assurance that you do know what you are talking about rather than throwing meaningless mud balls from behind cover.
No one but I posts as Horst Kraus, and allways with my full name and I stand straight and tall behind everything I ever said, or will say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all see, if you posted under your real name you wouldn&#8217;t have this problem.<br />
Besides, folks would then know that you know what it is you are talking about. Your integrity, provided you have any, would give it the weight and the assurance that you do know what you are talking about rather than throwing meaningless mud balls from behind cover.<br />
No one but I posts as Horst Kraus, and allways with my full name and I stand straight and tall behind everything I ever said, or will say.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfy</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/08/08/cincinnatus-not-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-196406</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, with 1,000 employees and 40,000 felons prosecuted each year (and growing) it&#039;s important to scrutinize the politics of each and every attorney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, with 1,000 employees and 40,000 felons prosecuted each year (and growing) it&#8217;s important to scrutinize the politics of each and every attorney.</p>
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		<title>By: Mesa Mike</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/08/08/cincinnatus-not-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-196404</link>
		<dc:creator>Mesa Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks TonyGOPrano for telling us you talk to Rachel constantly. What&#039;s the difference then if she is writing a blog constantly or talking to you constantly? You have that much business at the County Attorney&#039;s office?

You made Jamie&#039;s point yourself, right?

Also, it makes me nervous my County Attorney is politically aligned with the far left RINO fringe of the GOP. Or, at least an attorney in his office is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks TonyGOPrano for telling us you talk to Rachel constantly. What&#8217;s the difference then if she is writing a blog constantly or talking to you constantly? You have that much business at the County Attorney&#8217;s office?</p>
<p>You made Jamie&#8217;s point yourself, right?</p>
<p>Also, it makes me nervous my County Attorney is politically aligned with the far left RINO fringe of the GOP. Or, at least an attorney in his office is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 04:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually - I see now that my anonymous name is on this site called politicomafioso.blogspot.com incorrectly saying that I called this person out by name - Tell this to the judge Billbo! 

I only have observed the terrible articles authored by Cincinnatus. 

Is this how it&#039;s done... Silence citizens through intimidation who observe something wrong in government?  Not a chance - and not this time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually &#8211; I see now that my anonymous name is on this site called politicomafioso.blogspot.com incorrectly saying that I called this person out by name &#8211; Tell this to the judge Billbo! </p>
<p>I only have observed the terrible articles authored by Cincinnatus. </p>
<p>Is this how it&#8217;s done&#8230; Silence citizens through intimidation who observe something wrong in government?  Not a chance &#8211; and not this time!</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/08/08/cincinnatus-not-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-196386</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same deal here.  Never knew the name, nor said the name..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same deal here.  Never knew the name, nor said the name..</p>
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		<title>By: Billbo</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/08/08/cincinnatus-not-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-196383</link>
		<dc:creator>Billbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell it to the Judge!</description>
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		<title>By: DGN</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/08/08/cincinnatus-not-alexander/comment-page-1/#comment-196370</link>
		<dc:creator>DGN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only said Rachel.  Never used a last name.</description>
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		<title>By: Mesa Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mesa Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Rachel Alexander writes at Sonoran Alliance under a pseudonym but that&#039;s as far as you&#039;re going? And Politico Mafioso is here to straighten out all the facts? hmmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Rachel Alexander writes at Sonoran Alliance under a pseudonym but that&#8217;s as far as you&#8217;re going? And Politico Mafioso is here to straighten out all the facts? hmmm</p>
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