Comments on: Crandall, Driggs, Quelland, Mason & Konopnicki tried to have it both ways on immigration

By: Sonoran Alliance » Fix Arizona Now Takes Swipe at Sonoran Alliance

Sonoran Alliance » Fix Arizona Now Takes Swipe at Sonoran Alliance — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:30:18 +0000

[...] information, the site is now bloated with hack writers and full of Republican bashing and attacking their own. Since when did they start letting lobbyists pipe off about their paying clients – gambling [...]

By: Other things that need to be fixed « FIX ARIZONA NOW!

Other things that need to be fixed « FIX ARIZONA NOW! — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:43:14 +0000

By: Dave K.

Dave K. — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:42:15 +0000

Wow, I just love that so-called logic!

“You guys have been in control for 44 years, but *this* time, it’ll be different!”

Uh huh …

Seems to me that if the voters of this state wanted the Dems to control the legislature, at some point in the last 44 years or so, they would have made it so.

But I’m funny that way …

I won’t even bother restating the points that have already been made. Anyone who believes a fantasy like this can’t be convinced of objective reality in this lifetime …

By: Sonoran Alliance » Sonoran News calls out Rep. Barto on missing the Sanctuary City vote

Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:32:21 +0000

[...] illegal immigration enforcement funding cannot be taken away, as Napolitano has done to him. The Sanctuary Six Republicans who refused to vote on HB2280 really hurt our state when it comes to illegal [...]

By: kralmajales

kralmajales — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:06:34 +0000

Hunter,

First, I was talking Fed. 8 full years of Bush control and most of the time with the House and Senate. What’d we get? The worst deficit in our history, policies that didn’t work, corruption, and most of things that people dont care for.

Second, we had a Dem gov for what 5-6 years and in that time she faced a legislature that held the budget hostage until the end…much as we have seen recently. Senate and House rules were used to be sure that her budget did not get the time of day. Fine, you had the power. That said, have to take the blame. The GOP budget was so bada and so unpopular that, yes, folks like Tim Bee had to rescue you from your own stupidity and march toward irrelevance. You have controlled this state for most of the last 44 years and have controlled the Senate and House for most of that time as well. This economy was sown long ago with a budget structure and theory that you all support and that has failed. Low spending and low taxes does not work. It is also VERY unpopular.

Napolitano, was a finger in a dam at best. She stopped the blood from rushing out of this state but, in my mind, did little more than that. My chief criticism of her is that she feared you.

So, now you have control. Complete GOP control…and you can’t govern..and people don’t like what your policies are (less spending, less taxes). So you have what you want and people dont want what you offer.

Because of the policies of the right in the House and Senate, we have a state that has a revenue problem, not a spending problem. We spend far less than most states on most programs. Tim Bee and Pete Hershberger and Toni Hellon saved, sorry, your asses numerous times. Now people are finally seeing what you party is all about…and you will suffer massively in the next election…unless the hapless democrat party keeps fumbling the damned ball.

By: todd

todd — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:54:02 +0000

Hunter,
I find you claim that “everyone in Congress” had access to the same info as Bush to be flat-out wrong. First of all, most members of Congress don’t have access to intelligence briefings and you also had an entire group of people set up in the Pentagon to spin raw intelligence in the direction of claims that supported the case for war.

I certainly agree the Democrats in Congress were cowardly and gullible but to claim that the Bush administration was no seeking to find excuses to go to war just flies in the face of the tremendous evidence of intelligence manipulation and outright fabrication.

By: Hunter

Hunter — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:42:02 +0000

Kral, what a short memory you have! We had a Democrat governor the past 6 years. For the last 2 of those years, Republicans had a nominal majority in both houses of the legislature, but there were enough liberals who voted with the Democrats on budget issues to deny Republican leaders a working majority.

As for the “GOP” wars, I think there was an American response to the attacks on 9-11-2001. Democrats in Congress were mostly in favor of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. And no stories about how Bush lied to get into the wars; everyone in Congress had access to the same information Bush did leading up to those wars.

By attacking the bases of terrorism, we forced them to fight in Afghanistan and Iraq instead of being able to focus on more attacks against the United States.

By: kralmajales

kralmajales — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:57:24 +0000

“Turning things over to the Dems would not only destroy our economy, but also put us all in more danger–physically and otherwise.”

Your party and its eight years of near total control of government has destroyed our economy. As has this state house, Senate, and Gov.

Danger physically? Ha. The GOP wars put us in more danger and killed many soldiers.

Last, yes, I am enjoying your circular firing squad.

By: RonB

RonB — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:05:06 +0000

It is quite apparent that the emotions generated by illegal immigration are causing us conservatives to beat up each other while the lefties just smile. Russell Pearce is a true patriot. He is doing his very best to do what he believes is the right way to address and correct the problem. Other conservative legislators are likewise attempting to do their very best to address and correct that problem. To call them the “Sanctuary Six” is inappropriate. Their lack of support for Sen. Pearce’s bill and their support of Rep. Tom Boone’s bill is not only a matter of degreee but also one of possibility. Boone’s bill would take a necessary step to outlaw sanctuary policies in Arizona. Pearce’s bill would do that, too, but also, many argue(including ICE), his bill would have unncessarily complicated the matter and would have caused some unintended consequences, quite possibly rendering the law unenforceable. They felt it would be best to take a big first step–outlawing sanctuary policies–and then work on the other later. It is important that conservatives work closer together in order to accomplish the true goal–Arizona’s security and financial well-being. Turning things over to the Dems would not only destroy our economy, but also put us all in more danger–physically and otherwise.

By: Jack

Jack — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:22:59 +0000

Compliance is everything. Resistence is futile. Round ‘em all up or get out. Brilliant.

By: Roger

Roger — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:09:52 +0000

nightcrawler, read the previous posts. The bill was set to pass until Pearce tried to sneak his provision in.

By: Roger

Roger — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:08:48 +0000

tell it straight, if you were to ask those 75% if they prefer police go after murderers and rapists or gardeners and cooks, it’s pretty clear where the numbers would end up. This law would have done just that.

By: nightcrawler

nightcrawler — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:25:53 +0000

Waj,

My question is simply why didn’t Barto and the other five members articulate their position BEFORE the vote ? Truthfully, I just don’t know where they stand and that not only frustrates the hardcore conservatives but also the moderates as well. Wishy washy doesn’t cut it with anyone.

By: tell it straight

tell it straight — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:25:42 +0000

Great article. This is the dependable Wake Up Arizona! crowd determined to protect the interests of employers who hire illegal and exploited labor at the expense of American jobs and honest business people.

These six are not representing the 75% of Arizona voters who express their will against illegal immigration every Election Day.

John McCain, John Shadegg and Jeff Flake must be so proud of these six fellow “elites” who disregard the voters once in office.

By: AZNooz

AZNooz — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:46:41 +0000

You guys are smoking something. These guys have consistently fought against strong enforcement against illegal aliens. To say otherwise ignores historical fact and indicates you are either deliberately trying to misinform or are blatantly ignorant of the truth.