Comments on: Update: Janet Contreras’ Letter http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/06/20/update-janet-contreras-letter/ Arizona Politics, News, Commentary and Information with a Blatantly Conservative Worldview Presented by an Alliance of Writers, Activists, Consultants and Government Insiders. Fri, 25 May 2012 16:46:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: CECIL http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/06/20/update-janet-contreras-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-216007 CECIL Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:32:30 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=4493#comment-216007 You go!!!!!! We will talk, but I support you. You go!!!!!! We will talk, but I support you.

]]> By: Jennifer http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/06/20/update-janet-contreras-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-183022 Jennifer Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:41:35 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=4493#comment-183022 Janet I would very much like to have the opportunity to talk with or email you. I am from Ohio and we organizing a 8/1 state-wide Tea Party event. We would like to know if you would like to come and personally read your letter to the crowd. It should be a huge event. Here is the link. Please feel free to email us from the website. http://www.ohiolibertycouncil.com/ Jennifer Janet I would very much like to have the opportunity to talk with or email you. I am from Ohio and we organizing a 8/1 state-wide Tea Party event. We would like to know if you would like to come and personally read your letter to the crowd. It should be a huge event. Here is the link. Please feel free to email us from the website.

http://www.ohiolibertycouncil.com/

Jennifer

]]> By: Martin http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/06/20/update-janet-contreras-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-181448 Martin Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:19:11 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=4493#comment-181448 Interesting letter… I’m glad you sent it to me. I’m also glad you like politics as well as I do. I know you do. We just see things different. That’s ok. Where was this letter first published? You didn't tell me. It's always good to know the origin of a document even if the name of the author is made up. Do you believe this letter is coming from an independent woman named Janet Contreras? This letter probably was published and distributed by Fox News, am I right? I think so for it is the view of the opposition party, not really the views of an independent person. An independent person would sound more or less like this: “The Republican Party, and the Democratic Party are the two heads of the same monster…” It is true that there are differences on style and policies of the two parties, but that is because each party, at a time, represents different sectors of the capitalist class in the USA. Bush, for example, represent the oil industry, and Obama, I think, represents the Financial Sector (Wall Street) So, Capitalist do fight each other, but more often they eat at the same table. We can still analyze the content of the so called “open letter”. First of all, “Mrs. Contreras” does not present one single solution to the problems we are facing in our nation. The people behind that letter are not interested in finding solutions to the problems: they are in the business of political entertainments. Let’s see, remember: follow the money when ever you want to analyze any political issues. By the way, it’s not that I’m pretending to have solution to all the problems; I’m just recognizing that the problems are way more complex than what Mrs. Contreras sees. “One, illegal immigration. I want you to stop coddling illegal immigrants and secure our borders. Close the underground tunnels. Stop the violence and the trafficking in drugs and people. No amnesty, not again. Been there, done that, no resolution. P.S., I’m not a racist. This isn’t to be confused with legal immigration.” Secure our borders — I definitely agree with that, but that’s just one aspect of the illegal immigration problem. Plug this question on Google search: a) Who benefits from the illegal immigrant? b) Are illegal immigrants taking of bringing wealth to the country? c) Who benefit if illegal immigrant became legal? d) What would happen if there is not more immigrant at all? e) Why some countries are getting more Visas than others? f) Does Mrs. Contreras prefer Irish immigrant over Canadian immigrants? g) What about Mexican Immigrant? See, the moment any politician touches the immigration issue he or she makes few friends (hardcore nationalist) and lots of powerful enemies because illegal immigrants benefit vast sector of the USA economy. Including housing industry which we all are praying it can stand up finally, and not to mention agriculture industry. Imagine all those illegal workers not doing their jobs for one just one day: a catastrophe. Some politicians may talk in bad terms about illegal immigrants because they don’t have to right to vote so they can’t defend themselves. They might say that illegal immigrants are the cause of all problems in America including the death of JFK, but no one does nothing to change the situation. In my opinion this issue must be addressed gradually keeping in mind that what we want in the end is to guarantee the continue growth of the nation. I think the illegal immigration situation is going to stay the way it is now for a while no matter what party is in the White House. That is because the opposite of illegal immigrants is the working class of the United States and none of the two political parties are fighting for the working class in USA. "Close the underground tunnels" The letter says --- Which political party is proposing not to close underground tunnels at the USA/ Mexico border? I ask. "Stop the violence and the trafficking in drugs" The letter also says --- the police and law enforcement agencies are doing all they can to stop drug trafficking; many times they even got killed enforcing the law, but the people of United States keep demanding illegal drugs more than any other country in the world. Why? I do not know. “Two, the TARP bill, I want it repealed and I want no further funding supplied to it. We told you no, but you did it anyway. I want the remaining unfunded 95% repealed. Freeze, repeal.” Mrs. Contreras doesn’t say why? At the end of the letter she refers to TARP again. I think that’s the real purpose for the so called “Open letter” What is TARP? Who benefits from implementation of a program like TARP? TARP is a relief program implemented by Congress to help home owners who are struggling with their mortgages. I don’t have a solid opinion about this issue yet, but I wish I qualify for some relief programs. I think, maybe the program should include more Home Owners. I don’t think we can see benefits from this program yet. I guess it's still being implemented. How did the housing problem start? Who fault is it? I heard the housing problem starts when financial institutions sold mortgage accounts as securities to Wall Street investors. Most of those mortgages had variable rates. Once Mortgage accounts became Securities they fall into the rules of the Wall Street market. As a consequence of particular market situations, the interest rate of those Mortgages went up and Home Owners were not able to pay their mortgages. When Home Owners started loosing their homes the whole housing industry collapsed because there were too many houses available for the market. This together with other economic blunders like the war in Iraq weak the economy to the point that unemployment rate started to rise rapidly, and general prices of all good destabilized (prices too high, and/or too low) As a result the whole economy of United States collapsed. The political consequence of the financial crisis made possible that a black man, Barack Obama, was elected president of United States for the first time. Now, remember that not every one looses money in this economy. Exxon Mobil, for example, is an oil companies that made and continue making millions and millions of dollars during this economic crisis. I found this Q&A website about TARP: http://whatistarp.com/ “ …Four, cap and trade. The debate on global warming is not over. There is more to say.” Mrs. Contreras didn’t elaborate…so forget about this one. “….Five, universal healthcare. I will not be rushed into another expensive decision. Don’t you dare try to pass this in the middle of the night and then go on break. Slow down!” She didn’t elaborate here either, but I'm glad elected officials are talking more about health care. We all should have a health care plan. We all know it’s not possible because some big companies from the Health care sector are twisting arms in Washington to prevent that from happening. “….Six, growing government control. I want states rights and sovereignty fully restored. I want less government in my life, not more. Shrink it down. Mind your own business. You have enough to take care of with your real obligations. Why don’t you start there?“ She is not specific here either, but I know where she is coming from with this story: there are two major philosophies that define the role of government in the USA: One says that government should not, or should have limited role in the economy, that the law of supply and demand will balance the market. This theory says the market should be left alone to regulate by itself. The other view is that government should interfere because if the market is left alone it might set off towards self destruction. President Reagan, for example, claimed that “the government is the problem” President Clinton, I was told, deregulated rules established during the Roosevelt’s era that keep Mortgage Accounts separated from Wall Street market. Experts say this is why the housing industry was eaten out by the ups and downs of Wall Street. So it was not the poor by being irresponsible buyer who knocked out the housing industry. It was Wall Street. Bush administration even wanted to roll over the Social Security funds to Wall Street. Imagine! Reagan and the two Bushes reduced the government participation on watching business affairs but at the same time increasing government’s expenses to the point of almost dismantling the Federal Government. Why? Because they hate it. It doesn’t go alone with their philosophy of government; they think is in their way. The only part of the Federal government they love is the military. That’s why they always increase military expenses, Obama, on the other hands, believes in government intervention, I think. Obama is planning to invest government’s money in local projects and local program to regenerate local economies so they can create more jobs. Once the economy begins to moves a bit forward he hopes investors pull out their money from under their mattresses and begin to invest in the system. This ultimately would move the economy towards real economic growth. I think that's what their plan is. They are using the same formula was used to get the country out of the Great Depression. Is it going to work this time? No one knows. I do hope so. I'm not Rush Limbaug who said he wishes Obama fails. What a guy! http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011609/content/01125113.guest.html a) Government should interfere in what? b) Government should not interfere in what? Let’s see: Should the government regulate Wall Street? Should the government regulate mass media? How many channels for one corp? Should the government regulate Prices? Should the government regulate interest rate? Should the government print money as it wishes? Should the government interfere in a woman’s decision to have an abortion? Should the government interfere in two lesbian’s decision to get marry? Should the government interfere in a man’s decision to own a fire arm? Should the government interfere in my right to hire illegal aliens? Should the government interfere in my decision to smoke marijuana? Should the government interfere in a man’s decision to have sex with a minor? Should the government interfere in a man’s decision to travel to Cuba? Should the government interfere in the education of children? How much? Should the government interfere in the health care of all citizens? How much? Should the government collect taxes? How much? As you can see the role of the government is another point of controversy, and people usually call on the government to interfere in our lives to impose their own point of views on others. What this letter is referring to, I think, is the demand some Capitalist usually makes to keep the government out of their business. This way they can make as much profits as they can even if by doing so they eliminate other capitalists and increase unemployment rate. Usually those who call on the government to back off are those who are not part of the current administration. Once another sector of the whole capitalist class is back in control of the government the others capitalist begin complaining about government’s intervention in business affairs. So what is the function of the government? The government is there to prevent capitalists from killing each other. It’s like a boxing match: the two fighters are beating up each other, but the referee does not let one to kill the other. In the end one is declared winner, but both are supposed to make lots of money. What about workers, and peasants, how does the government relate to workers? The government has to have them available for when capitalist need them. …”Seven, ACORN.” I think some Republican are in rage with ACORN for they’re saying ACORN organization is in favor the Democrat party. I think this is not big deal because Obama would have won with ACORN help or with out it anyway. If the Republican had won ACORN issue would not be important for them. Mrs. Contreras: Obama won the election. He was not selected to be president like Bush was. He is the president of United States. Get use to it. Don’t worry about ACORN. … “Eight, redistribution of wealth. No, no, no. I work for my money. It is mine. I have always worked for people with more money than I have because they gave me jobs. That is the only redistribution of wealth that I will support. I never got a job from a poor person. Why do you want me to hate my employers? Why what do you have against shareholders making a profit?” says Mrs. Contreras. There we go again with the redistribution thing. This is Sean Hanety favorite topic. I wonder if he helped to edit that letter. I’m not Obama’s spoke person, but as I understand during the campaign Obama was promoting the idea of increasing taxes to those who make more than 100 thousand a year, I think. Or maybe it was 200 thousand. I don’t remember the exact figure, but he says that those who make less than that would not get their taxes increased. If Mrs. Contreras makes that amount a year she has the right to complain, but the vast majority of worker in the USA make way less than 100 thousand dollars a year. There are millions of people making 30 thousand dollar a year or less. There are executives at Wall Street and else where making 80, 60, 40 millions dollars in bonuses only, not including their salaries. Shouldn’t those people pay more taxes than those who make 30 thousand dollar a year? I mean 1 dollar is more for the one who has only 10 dollars total than 20 dollars is for the one who has 100 dollars. One might say “the less taxes you charge to the rich people the more money they have available to invest back in the economy” Yes that’s sounds nice, but then how come they are not doing so? Why are we being hit with high unemployment rate? Capitalists are investing their money in foreign countries where labor is cheaper than here. Then they expect us to buy the products they made elsewhere, but we are unable to do so because the production of those goods did not generate employment here. And because we don’t have jobs we don’t have money to buy any goods. But because we "need" the goods we pay with credit cards....and that's the beginning of another story. Mrs. Contreras is afraid of redistribution of wealth maybe because she is thinking that an elected president of the United States of America might be implementing a communist system in the USA. She is thinking that Obama is going to take one house out of those who have two houses and give it to the poor. She might be thinking that Obama is going to take all rich people to jail and confiscate all their wealth to redistribute them among the poor people. There are two well known fear factors people at Fox News use constantly in politics: one is Communism, the other one is Terrorism. Communism, I think is over used. Mrs. Contreras should use Terrorism instead. “Why do you want me to hate my employers? “ Says Mrs. Contreras. I haven’t seen any Democrats, or Republican leader calling on people to hate employers. What people usually complain is that every day more people are getting poorer while few people become extraordinarily richer and richer. For Mrs. Contreras to understand those complains she has to visualize the economic system as a whole, not just her relationship between her and her employer. I’m glad Mrs Contreras is able to love her employer. Nevertheless, I know that if Mrs Contreras sees that she works harder than other co-worker, but she is getting less money, I’m sure she is going to hate her employer. Also, ff she got layoff because her company is not producing enough money to pay her salary she would hate her employer for sending her to be part of unemployment population instead of other co-worker. “what do you have against shareholders making a profit?” Asks Mrs. Contreras. Well for that I’ve got to say it’s a natural human thing. People tend to have a good sense of fairness when they are the victim of unfair treatment. Some people in Wall Street are making millions and millions of dollars trading what workers are producing every day making just enough money to survive. I think it’s not fair. I think the gap between poor and rich is getting so wide that the whole economic system might collapse to the point of political unrest. Uh, don't worry; that happens all the time in Latin America; you would get used to it. Although, here it might be harder, since there are so many people with guns. Let’s see what else Mrs. Contreras says: “I have always worked for people with more money than I have because they gave me jobs. That is the only redistribution of wealth that I will support…” I’m happy Miss Contreras got jobs. Others are not so lucky. Let’s see what unemployment rate is right now…that’s the advantage of the internet: we can check out figures before talking BS. http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/5672319 “The White House says double-digit unemployment is coming sooner than previously acknowledged. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs says the president expects the nation will reach 10 per cent unemployment within the next few months. In an interview with Bloomberg last week, President Barack Obama said he expected the nation to reach 10 percent unemployment sometime this year. The current unemployment rate reached a 25-year high of 9.4 percent in May.” That means there will be 35 million people with out a job, and right now there are 32.9 million people with out a job. Rich people don’t’ have a job for every one of us. So those who don’t have a job are supported by those who have a job. The less jobs are out there for the poor people the less people are able to buy the product the rich people produce at their industries and companies. Rich people are out there because there are lots of poor people here, but if we all, the poor people, became so poor the rich people, and all of us together with the nation will break apart. Unless the rich people have already a plan to move out to mars and leave us here, It’s best for all of us to come up with a solution to the financial crisis we are experiencing right now. I would not count on Mrs. Contreras to support another way to manage the economy for the “only redistribution of wealth Mrs. Contreras supports” is the one we already have in place for years. I’m afraid, this redistribution of wealth is the one making more pore people every day. Of course, except for Exxon Mobil, the company of former Secretary of State, Miss Rise, and Mr. Bush, that made 40 Billion dollars profits in 2007. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/01/AR2007020100714.html Hallyburton, the company of former vice President Dick Cheney is also doing well. This company supplies gas and other materials to the military in the war of Iraq and Afganistan. It's profits jumps from 7.5 millions in 2005 to 22576 millions profits in 2007. According to Fortune magazine http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2007/snapshots/600.html How much were we paying for a gallon of gas in 2007? Do I have to remember that? “Nine, charitable contributions. Although I never got a job from a poor person, I have helped many in need. Charity belongs in our local communities, where we know our needs best and can use our local talent and our local resources. Butt out, please. We want to do it ourselves.” says Mrs. Contreras. What a noble thing to do: give charity to the poor!! Charity doesn't help Mrs. Contreras! What really help is for the rich people to invest in the production of goods. That way the local economy regenerate more jobs for people so they can support themselves with out the need for your charity. Where does the government get money come from? From Taxes it charges to people who have jobs. If there are less jobs for the people, there are more people who need charities, and because there is less jobs there is less money for charities as well. But if there are more jobs there is less need for charities and there is more money that can be used for something else instead of charity, school for example, so more people are educated; so then they can later regenerate more taxes from their well paid jobs... What can local governments do if they don’t have money to pay local government employees? How local government is going to hire policemen firefighters, school teachers if they don’t have money to pay? Maybe I’m a dreamer, but I like to dream that one day there would be no need for charities: a day in which we all have a job and love our employer. I think the only way this could happen is if only if we all are the employees and the employers... I know, I might be called communist for saying that. Where are the rich people from? How did they accumulate their wealth? Are rich people rich because they worked harder? Are rich people equipped with better brain than poor people? “Eleven, transparency and accountability. How about it? No, really, how about it? Let’s have it. Let’s say we give the buzzwords a rest and have some straight honest talk. Please try please stop manipulating and trying to appease me with clever wording. I am not the idiot you obviously take me for. Stop sneaking around and meeting in back rooms making deals with your friends. It will only be a prelude to your criminal investigation. Stop hiding things from me.” Says Mrs. Contreras. I agree with Miss Contreras here. Let’s open an investigation of any alleged criminal acts committed by any government official; no matter who they are, and make them pay for their crimes. No matter if the alleged crime was committed by this or previous administration. Some people would like to reopen the investigation on the 9/11 terrorist attacks for they think the Bush administration knew more than it pretended in that case. People allege the Bush administration broke the law by purposely lying to congress about Iraq to take the country into war against that country. People allege that former vice president Dick Cheney ordered the name of a CIA agent to be reveled whish is criminal act against the mother land. He allegedly did so to punish the spouse of this secret agent for not saying publicly that the war in Iraq was justified. People allege that lawyers of the previous administration ordered prisoners of war to be tortured in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. This is a crime in our criminal system and international law as well. People also are saying that members of the Democratic Party knew about tortured prisoners and choose to ignore the crime at the time. Tuelve…. Well, I’m tire. Honesty, I think this so called Open Letter was not produced by a so called an independent person for it contains the topics of the opposition party: the Republican. Interesting letter… I’m glad you sent it to me. I’m also glad you like politics as well as I do. I know you do. We just see things different. That’s ok.
Where was this letter first published? You didn’t tell me. It’s always good to know the origin of a document even if the name of the author is made up.
Do you believe this letter is coming from an independent woman named Janet Contreras? This letter probably was published and distributed by Fox News, am I right? I think so for it is the view of the opposition party, not really the views of an independent person. An independent person would sound more or less like this: “The Republican Party, and the Democratic Party are the two heads of the same monster…” It is true that there are differences on style and policies of the two parties, but that is because each party, at a time, represents different sectors of the capitalist class in the USA. Bush, for example, represent the oil industry, and Obama, I think, represents the Financial Sector (Wall Street) So, Capitalist do fight each other, but more often they eat at the same table.
We can still analyze the content of the so called “open letter”. First of all, “Mrs. Contreras” does not present one single solution to the problems we are facing in our nation. The people behind that letter are not interested in finding solutions to the problems: they are in the business of political entertainments. Let’s see, remember: follow the money when ever you want to analyze any political issues. By the way, it’s not that I’m pretending to have solution to all the problems; I’m just recognizing that the problems are way more complex than what Mrs. Contreras sees.
“One, illegal immigration. I want you to stop coddling illegal immigrants and secure our borders. Close the underground tunnels. Stop the violence and the trafficking in drugs and people. No amnesty, not again. Been there, done that, no resolution. P.S., I’m not a racist. This isn’t to be confused with legal immigration.”
Secure our borders — I definitely agree with that, but that’s just one aspect of the illegal immigration problem.
Plug this question on Google search:
a) Who benefits from the illegal immigrant?
b) Are illegal immigrants taking of bringing wealth to the country?
c) Who benefit if illegal immigrant became legal?
d) What would happen if there is not more immigrant at all?
e) Why some countries are getting more Visas than others?
f) Does Mrs. Contreras prefer Irish immigrant over Canadian immigrants?
g) What about Mexican Immigrant?
See, the moment any politician touches the immigration issue he or she makes few friends (hardcore nationalist) and lots of powerful enemies because illegal immigrants benefit vast sector of the USA economy. Including housing industry which we all are praying it can stand up finally, and not to mention agriculture industry. Imagine all those illegal workers not doing their jobs for one just one day: a catastrophe. Some politicians may talk in bad terms about illegal immigrants because they don’t have to right to vote so they can’t defend themselves. They might say that illegal immigrants are the cause of all problems in America including the death of JFK, but no one does nothing to change the situation. In my opinion this issue must be addressed gradually keeping in mind that what we want in the end is to guarantee the continue growth of the nation. I think the illegal immigration situation is going to stay the way it is now for a while no matter what party is in the White House. That is because the opposite of illegal immigrants is the working class of the United States and none of the two political parties are fighting for the working class in USA.
“Close the underground tunnels” The letter says — Which political party is proposing not to close underground tunnels at the USA/ Mexico border? I ask.
“Stop the violence and the trafficking in drugs” The letter also says — the police and law enforcement agencies are doing all they can to stop drug trafficking; many times they even got killed enforcing the law, but the people of United States keep demanding illegal drugs more than any other country in the world. Why? I do not know.
“Two, the TARP bill, I want it repealed and I want no further funding supplied to it. We told you no, but you did it anyway. I want the remaining unfunded 95% repealed. Freeze, repeal.”
Mrs. Contreras doesn’t say why? At the end of the letter she refers to TARP again. I think that’s the real purpose for the so called “Open letter”
What is TARP?
Who benefits from implementation of a program like TARP?
TARP is a relief program implemented by Congress to help home owners who are struggling with their mortgages. I don’t have a solid opinion about this issue yet, but I wish I qualify for some relief programs. I think, maybe the program should include more Home Owners. I don’t think we can see benefits from this program yet. I guess it’s still being implemented.
How did the housing problem start?
Who fault is it?
I heard the housing problem starts when financial institutions sold mortgage accounts as securities to Wall Street investors. Most of those mortgages had variable rates. Once Mortgage accounts became Securities they fall into the rules of the Wall Street market. As a consequence of particular market situations, the interest rate of those Mortgages went up and Home Owners were not able to pay their mortgages. When Home Owners started loosing their homes the whole housing industry collapsed because there were too many houses available for the market. This together with other economic blunders like the war in Iraq weak the economy to the point that unemployment rate started to rise rapidly, and general prices of all good destabilized (prices too high, and/or too low) As a result the whole economy of United States collapsed. The political consequence of the financial crisis made possible that a black man, Barack Obama, was elected president of United States for the first time. Now, remember that not every one looses money in this economy. Exxon Mobil, for example, is an oil companies that made and continue making millions and millions of dollars during this economic crisis.
I found this Q&A website about TARP:
http://whatistarp.com/
“ …Four, cap and trade. The debate on global warming is not over. There is more to say.”
Mrs. Contreras didn’t elaborate…so forget about this one.
“….Five, universal healthcare. I will not be rushed into another expensive decision. Don’t you dare try to pass this in the middle of the night and then go on break. Slow down!”
She didn’t elaborate here either, but I’m glad elected officials are talking more about health care. We all should have a health care plan. We all know it’s not possible because some big companies from the Health care sector are twisting arms in Washington to prevent that from happening.
“….Six, growing government control. I want states rights and sovereignty fully restored. I want less government in my life, not more. Shrink it down. Mind your own business. You have enough to take care of with your real obligations. Why don’t you start there?“
She is not specific here either, but I know where she is coming from with this story: there are two major philosophies that define the role of government in the USA: One says that government should not, or should have limited role in the economy, that the law of supply and demand will balance the market. This theory says the market should be left alone to regulate by itself. The other view is that government should interfere because if the market is left alone it might set off towards self destruction. President Reagan, for example, claimed that “the government is the problem” President Clinton, I was told, deregulated rules established during the Roosevelt’s era that keep Mortgage Accounts separated from Wall Street market. Experts say this is why the housing industry was eaten out by the ups and downs of Wall Street. So it was not the poor by being irresponsible buyer who knocked out the housing industry. It was Wall Street. Bush administration even wanted to roll over the Social Security funds to Wall Street. Imagine! Reagan and the two Bushes reduced the government participation on watching business affairs but at the same time increasing government’s expenses to the point of almost dismantling the Federal Government. Why? Because they hate it. It doesn’t go alone with their philosophy of government; they think is in their way. The only part of the Federal government they love is the military. That’s why they always increase military expenses, Obama, on the other hands, believes in government intervention, I think. Obama is planning to invest government’s money in local projects and local program to regenerate local economies so they can create more jobs. Once the economy begins to moves a bit forward he hopes investors pull out their money from under their mattresses and begin to invest in the system. This ultimately would move the economy towards real economic growth. I think that’s what their plan is. They are using the same formula was used to get the country out of the Great Depression. Is it going to work this time? No one knows. I do hope so. I’m not Rush Limbaug who said he wishes Obama fails. What a guy! http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011609/content/01125113.guest.html
a) Government should interfere in what?
b) Government should not interfere in what?
Let’s see:
Should the government regulate Wall Street?
Should the government regulate mass media? How many channels for one corp?
Should the government regulate Prices?
Should the government regulate interest rate?
Should the government print money as it wishes?
Should the government interfere in a woman’s decision to have an abortion?
Should the government interfere in two lesbian’s decision to get marry?
Should the government interfere in a man’s decision to own a fire arm?
Should the government interfere in my right to hire illegal aliens?
Should the government interfere in my decision to smoke marijuana?
Should the government interfere in a man’s decision to have sex with a minor?
Should the government interfere in a man’s decision to travel to Cuba?
Should the government interfere in the education of children? How much?
Should the government interfere in the health care of all citizens? How much?
Should the government collect taxes? How much?
As you can see the role of the government is another point of controversy, and people usually call on the government to interfere in our lives to impose their own point of views on others.
What this letter is referring to, I think, is the demand some Capitalist usually makes to keep the government out of their business. This way they can make as much profits as they can even if by doing so they eliminate other capitalists and increase unemployment rate. Usually those who call on the government to back off are those who are not part of the current administration. Once another sector of the whole capitalist class is back in control of the government the others capitalist begin complaining about government’s intervention in business affairs.
So what is the function of the government? The government is there to prevent capitalists from killing each other. It’s like a boxing match: the two fighters are beating up each other, but the referee does not let one to kill the other. In the end one is declared winner, but both are supposed to make lots of money.
What about workers, and peasants, how does the government relate to workers? The government has to have them available for when capitalist need them.
…”Seven, ACORN.”
I think some Republican are in rage with ACORN for they’re saying ACORN organization is in favor the Democrat party. I think this is not big deal because Obama would have won with ACORN help or with out it anyway. If the Republican had won ACORN issue would not be important for them. Mrs. Contreras: Obama won the election. He was not selected to be president like Bush was. He is the president of United States. Get use to it. Don’t worry about ACORN.
… “Eight, redistribution of wealth. No, no, no. I work for my money. It is mine. I have always worked for people with more money than I have because they gave me jobs. That is the only redistribution of wealth that I will support. I never got a job from a poor person. Why do you want me to hate my employers? Why what do you have against shareholders making a profit?” says Mrs. Contreras.
There we go again with the redistribution thing. This is Sean Hanety favorite topic. I wonder if he helped to edit that letter. I’m not Obama’s spoke person, but as I understand during the campaign Obama was promoting the idea of increasing taxes to those who make more than 100 thousand a year, I think. Or maybe it was 200 thousand. I don’t remember the exact figure, but he says that those who make less than that would not get their taxes increased. If Mrs. Contreras makes that amount a year she has the right to complain, but the vast majority of worker in the USA make way less than 100 thousand dollars a year. There are millions of people making 30 thousand dollar a year or less. There are executives at Wall Street and else where making 80, 60, 40 millions dollars in bonuses only, not including their salaries. Shouldn’t those people pay more taxes than those who make 30 thousand dollar a year? I mean 1 dollar is more for the one who has only 10 dollars total than 20 dollars is for the one who has 100 dollars. One might say “the less taxes you charge to the rich people the more money they have available to invest back in the economy” Yes that’s sounds nice, but then how come they are not doing so? Why are we being hit with high unemployment rate? Capitalists are investing their money in foreign countries where labor is cheaper than here. Then they expect us to buy the products they made elsewhere, but we are unable to do so because the production of those goods did not generate employment here. And because we don’t have jobs we don’t have money to buy any goods. But because we “need” the goods we pay with credit cards….and that’s the beginning of another story.
Mrs. Contreras is afraid of redistribution of wealth maybe because she is thinking that an elected president of the United States of America might be implementing a communist system in the USA. She is thinking that Obama is going to take one house out of those who have two houses and give it to the poor. She might be thinking that Obama is going to take all rich people to jail and confiscate all their wealth to redistribute them among the poor people. There are two well known fear factors people at Fox News use constantly in politics: one is Communism, the other one is Terrorism. Communism, I think is over used. Mrs. Contreras should use Terrorism instead.
“Why do you want me to hate my employers? “ Says Mrs. Contreras.
I haven’t seen any Democrats, or Republican leader calling on people to hate employers. What people usually complain is that every day more people are getting poorer while few people become extraordinarily richer and richer. For Mrs. Contreras to understand those complains she has to visualize the economic system as a whole, not just her relationship between her and her employer. I’m glad Mrs Contreras is able to love her employer. Nevertheless, I know that if Mrs Contreras sees that she works harder than other co-worker, but she is getting less money, I’m sure she is going to hate her employer. Also, ff she got layoff because her company is not producing enough money to pay her salary she would hate her employer for sending her to be part of unemployment population instead of other co-worker.

“what do you have against shareholders making a profit?” Asks Mrs. Contreras.
Well for that I’ve got to say it’s a natural human thing. People tend to have a good sense of fairness when they are the victim of unfair treatment. Some people in Wall Street are making millions and millions of dollars trading what workers are producing every day making just enough money to survive. I think it’s not fair. I think the gap between poor and rich is getting so wide that the whole economic system might collapse to the point of political unrest. Uh, don’t worry; that happens all the time in Latin America; you would get used to it. Although, here it might be harder, since there are so many people with guns.

Let’s see what else Mrs. Contreras says:
“I have always worked for people with more money than I have because they gave me jobs. That is the only redistribution of wealth that I will support…”
I’m happy Miss Contreras got jobs. Others are not so lucky. Let’s see what unemployment rate is right now…that’s the advantage of the internet: we can check out figures before talking BS.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/5672319
“The White House says double-digit unemployment is coming sooner than previously acknowledged.
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs says the president expects the nation will reach 10 per cent unemployment within the next few months.
In an interview with Bloomberg last week, President Barack Obama said he expected the nation to reach 10 percent unemployment sometime this year.
The current unemployment rate reached a 25-year high of 9.4 percent in May.”
That means there will be 35 million people with out a job, and right now there are 32.9 million people with out a job. Rich people don’t’ have a job for every one of us. So those who don’t have a job are supported by those who have a job. The less jobs are out there for the poor people the less people are able to buy the product the rich people produce at their industries and companies. Rich people are out there because there are lots of poor people here, but if we all, the poor people, became so poor the rich people, and all of us together with the nation will break apart. Unless the rich people have already a plan to move out to mars and leave us here, It’s best for all of us to come up with a solution to the financial crisis we are experiencing right now. I would not count on Mrs. Contreras to support another way to manage the economy for the “only redistribution of wealth Mrs. Contreras supports” is the one we already have in place for years. I’m afraid, this redistribution of wealth is the one making more pore people every day. Of course, except for Exxon Mobil, the company of former Secretary of State, Miss Rise, and Mr. Bush, that made 40 Billion dollars profits in 2007.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/01/AR2007020100714.html
Hallyburton, the company of former vice President Dick Cheney is also doing well. This company supplies gas and other materials to the military in the war of Iraq and Afganistan. It’s profits jumps from 7.5 millions in 2005 to 22576 millions profits in 2007. According to Fortune magazine
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2007/snapshots/600.html
How much were we paying for a gallon of gas in 2007? Do I have to remember that?

“Nine, charitable contributions. Although I never got a job from a poor person, I have helped many in need. Charity belongs in our local communities, where we know our needs best and can use our local talent and our local resources. Butt out, please. We want to do it ourselves.” says Mrs. Contreras.
What a noble thing to do: give charity to the poor!!
Charity doesn’t help Mrs. Contreras! What really help is for the rich people to invest in the production of goods. That way the local economy regenerate more jobs for people so they can support themselves with out the need for your charity.
Where does the government get money come from?
From Taxes it charges to people who have jobs. If there are less jobs for the people, there are more people who need charities, and because there is less jobs there is less money for charities as well. But if there are more jobs there is less need for charities and there is more money that can be used for something else instead of charity, school for example, so more people are educated; so then they can later regenerate more taxes from their well paid jobs…
What can local governments do if they don’t have money to pay local government employees?
How local government is going to hire policemen firefighters, school teachers if they don’t have money to pay?
Maybe I’m a dreamer, but I like to dream that one day there would be no need for charities: a day in which we all have a job and love our employer. I think the only way this could happen is if only if we all are the employees and the employers… I know, I might be called communist for saying that.
Where are the rich people from?
How did they accumulate their wealth?
Are rich people rich because they worked harder?
Are rich people equipped with better brain than poor people?

“Eleven, transparency and accountability. How about it? No, really, how about it? Let’s have it. Let’s say we give the buzzwords a rest and have some straight honest talk. Please try please stop manipulating and trying to appease me with clever wording. I am not the idiot you obviously take me for. Stop sneaking around and meeting in back rooms making deals with your friends. It will only be a prelude to your criminal investigation. Stop hiding things from me.” Says Mrs. Contreras.
I agree with Miss Contreras here. Let’s open an investigation of any alleged criminal acts committed by any government official; no matter who they are, and make them pay for their crimes. No matter if the alleged crime was committed by this or previous administration. Some people would like to reopen the investigation on the 9/11 terrorist attacks for they think the Bush administration knew more than it pretended in that case. People allege the Bush administration broke the law by purposely lying to congress about Iraq to take the country into war against that country. People allege that former vice president Dick Cheney ordered the name of a CIA agent to be reveled whish is criminal act against the mother land. He allegedly did so to punish the spouse of this secret agent for not saying publicly that the war in Iraq was justified. People allege that lawyers of the previous administration ordered prisoners of war to be tortured in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. This is a crime in our criminal system and international law as well. People also are saying that members of the Democratic Party knew about tortured prisoners and choose to ignore the crime at the time.
Tuelve….
Well, I’m tire. Honesty, I think this so called Open Letter was not produced by a so called an independent person for it contains the topics of the opposition party: the Republican.

]]> By: Frank Aben http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/06/20/update-janet-contreras-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-180681 Frank Aben Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:18:25 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=4493#comment-180681 I could not have said any better. You have written what I feel in my heart. I come from a socialist country and it is frightening to see this beloves USA go into the same direction. I don't know what I can do about it, but pray that somebody with organizing abilities will stand up for all of us that feel so helpless. I could not have said any better. You have written what I feel in my heart. I come from a socialist country and it is frightening to see this beloves USA go into the same direction. I don’t know what I can do about it, but pray that somebody with organizing abilities will stand up for all of us that feel so helpless.

]]> By: Janet Contreras http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/06/20/update-janet-contreras-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-180652 Janet Contreras Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:55:28 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=4493#comment-180652 I would love to hear from you. Once you have joined the 912 project, please add me to your friends list. I would love to hear from you. Once you have joined the 912 project, please add me to your friends list.

]]> By: Annie Hoyle http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/06/20/update-janet-contreras-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-180644 Annie Hoyle Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:04:20 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=4493#comment-180644 Bravo, Janet Contreras! Your letter speaks for me, my hard working husband and my 4 beautiful children perfectly! We are with you and we are HERE! Thank You! Bravo, Janet Contreras! Your letter speaks for me, my hard working husband and my 4 beautiful children perfectly! We are with you and we are HERE! Thank You!

]]> By: Janet Contreras http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/06/20/update-janet-contreras-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-180633 Janet Contreras Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:29:57 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=4493#comment-180633 Hello all. Thank you for all of your kind support. Many have asked, what next? What can I do to help? We are organizing to make things happen. We do very much all need each other to succeed. Please make sure that all of you and anyone you know who shares our views have: 1. Signed the petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/8/an-open-letter-to-our-nations-leadership 2. Joined the 912 project: http://site.the912coalition.org/ We are not terrorists. We are not hiding. We can not fulfill our objectives by operating in numerous small cells. We need to centralize so our numbers are truly known. I suspect they are far greater than the signatures currently on the petition. Please act quickly. There is so much to do before the march on Washington on 9-12-09, the 2010 elections and the 2012 elections. Time is of the essence! Patriots unite! Hello all. Thank you for all of your kind support. Many have asked, what next? What can I do to help? We are organizing to make things happen. We do very much all need each other to succeed. Please make sure that all of you and anyone you know who shares our views have:

1. Signed the petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/8/an-open-letter-to-our-nations-leadership

2. Joined the 912 project: http://site.the912coalition.org/

We are not terrorists. We are not hiding. We can not fulfill our objectives by operating in numerous small cells. We need to centralize so our numbers are truly known. I suspect they are far greater than the signatures currently on the petition. Please act quickly. There is so much to do before the march on Washington on 9-12-09, the 2010 elections and the 2012 elections. Time is of the essence! Patriots unite!

]]> By: Ken G http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/06/20/update-janet-contreras-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-180386 Ken G Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:41:03 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=4493#comment-180386 Janet I live in Goodyear Az. and seen your video on Glen Beck and also on Sonoran Alliance. You are a great american as Sean Hannity would say. I would love to have e- mail conversation with you as we both think the same about who is acting to to be our president and how he feels making the United States a Socialistic Country. Janet I live in Goodyear Az. and seen your video on Glen Beck and also on Sonoran Alliance. You are a great american as Sean Hannity would say. I would love to have e- mail conversation with you as we both think the same about who is acting to to be our president and how he feels making the United States a Socialistic Country.

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