Comments on: Excessive English Language Learner requirements implemented under Napolitano’s legal representation http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/04/22/are-the-excessive-english-language-learner-requirements-due-to-napolitano/ Arizona Politics, News, Commentary and Information with a Blatantly Conservative Worldview Presented by an Alliance of Writers, Activists, Consultants and Government Insiders. Fri, 25 May 2012 15:37:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Gayle Rightwoman http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/04/22/are-the-excessive-english-language-learner-requirements-due-to-napolitano/comment-page-1/#comment-158165 Gayle Rightwoman Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:50:01 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=4096#comment-158165 Though ceritifed,I obviously cannot spell nor proofread.. always a good sign with a teacher--impressive :-) Though ceritifed,I obviously cannot spell nor proofread.. always a good sign with a teacher–impressive :-)

]]> By: Gayle Rightwoman http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/04/22/are-the-excessive-english-language-learner-requirements-due-to-napolitano/comment-page-1/#comment-158163 Gayle Rightwoman Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:49:01 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=4096#comment-158163 This last year I renewed all of my certificates and had to take a couple thousand of dollars worth of ELL certification classes. Structured English Immersion training. I know have a third certificate in this field. For the life of me, I do not know if it matters. The books and reading were blatantly slanted, and the actual training was minimal. But, I am now SEI certified. The classes do not make the programs viable. The lawsuit, a cornerstone of the training I might add, don't change teh reality that English Language Learners are at a disadvantage the moment they walk in to an predominantly ENglish speaking school. I might piggy back your post Chewie with this one teacher's perspective. Good, timely piece! This last year I renewed all of my certificates and had to take a couple thousand of dollars worth of ELL certification classes. Structured English Immersion training. I know have a third certificate in this field.

For the life of me, I do not know if it matters. The books and reading were blatantly slanted, and the actual training was minimal. But, I am now SEI certified.

The classes do not make the programs viable. The lawsuit, a cornerstone of the training I might add, don’t change teh reality that English Language Learners are at a disadvantage the moment they walk in to an predominantly ENglish speaking school.
I might piggy back your post Chewie with this one teacher’s perspective. Good, timely piece!

]]> By: keithjonesblog http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/04/22/are-the-excessive-english-language-learner-requirements-due-to-napolitano/comment-page-1/#comment-158061 keithjonesblog Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:03:30 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=4096#comment-158061 Why aren't the teachers and the judge demanding more from the parents? At my kids' school if they are falling behind our teachers tell us what we need to work on at home. Why don't we expect the same thing from spanish speaking families? If they struggle with English themselves, then helping their kids would be a great way for them all to learn together. Throwing money, or a judge ordering a state to throw money at an education problem is rarely if EVER the answer. Not that it is even close to his position to demand that the state do that... Why aren’t the teachers and the judge demanding more from the parents? At my kids’ school if they are falling behind our teachers tell us what we need to work on at home.

Why don’t we expect the same thing from spanish speaking families? If they struggle with English themselves, then helping their kids would be a great way for them all to learn together.

Throwing money, or a judge ordering a state to throw money at an education problem is rarely if EVER the answer.

Not that it is even close to his position to demand that the state do that…

]]> By: George of the Desert http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/04/22/are-the-excessive-english-language-learner-requirements-due-to-napolitano/comment-page-1/#comment-158052 George of the Desert Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:46:08 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=4096#comment-158052 Give credit where it is due: Chewie is right. Napolitano signed a consent decree in 2000 that put us in this constitutional mess. Thankfully, Tom Horne has aggressivley pursued this and hopefully the US Supreme Court will agree that AZ has made great strides in this area. Oh, the Supremes also ought to agree that legislatures, not judges, have the constitutional obligation to appropriate taxpayer dollars. This is a HUGE constitutional issue. Give credit where it is due: Chewie is right. Napolitano signed a consent decree in 2000 that put us in this constitutional mess. Thankfully, Tom Horne has aggressivley pursued this and hopefully the US Supreme Court will agree that AZ has made great strides in this area. Oh, the Supremes also ought to agree that legislatures, not judges, have the constitutional obligation to appropriate taxpayer dollars. This is a HUGE constitutional issue.

]]> By: Reagan Coalition http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/04/22/are-the-excessive-english-language-learner-requirements-due-to-napolitano/comment-page-1/#comment-158050 Reagan Coalition Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:42:35 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=4096#comment-158050 The Trib had an excellent editorial on this: http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/138242 The Trib had an excellent editorial on this: http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/138242

]]> By: MAS1916 http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/04/22/are-the-excessive-english-language-learner-requirements-due-to-napolitano/comment-page-1/#comment-158002 MAS1916 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:44:07 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=4096#comment-158002 No worries now.. Napolitano will just include anyone that objects on her Right Wing Hate list. No worries now.. Napolitano will just include anyone that objects on her Right Wing Hate list.

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