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		<title>By: dar</title>
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		<dc:creator>dar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>up and out!</description>
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		<title>By: Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone care that Kris&#039; agenda is off the base? As the conservative party we don&#039;t believe homosexuality is the proper way to live and yet we have elected her to represent our party. We need to get her out of AzGOP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone care that Kris&#8217; agenda is off the base? As the conservative party we don&#8217;t believe homosexuality is the proper way to live and yet we have elected her to represent our party. We need to get her out of AzGOP</p>
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		<title>By: Veritas Vincit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veritas Vincit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Arizona Republican Party is in need of a makeover…&quot;

No Lisa, make up is for actors reading someone elses lines or for public relations spin masters.  The party needs no make-over.  Poor choice of words Lisa.

Its not about Branding - its about the core product.  As long as we chase &quot;make overs&quot; and &quot;re-branding&quot; without seriously considering what a Republican is - we can never communicate that vision to the voters and consequently we&#039;ll continue to loose in the national elections.  (That are inhabited by white elephants from another era).  Think about it.

This is what the next leader of the AzGOP should be thinking about - strategic product development - not &quot;make overs&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Arizona Republican Party is in need of a makeover…&#8221;</p>
<p>No Lisa, make up is for actors reading someone elses lines or for public relations spin masters.  The party needs no make-over.  Poor choice of words Lisa.</p>
<p>Its not about Branding &#8211; its about the core product.  As long as we chase &#8220;make overs&#8221; and &#8220;re-branding&#8221; without seriously considering what a Republican is &#8211; we can never communicate that vision to the voters and consequently we&#8217;ll continue to loose in the national elections.  (That are inhabited by white elephants from another era).  Think about it.</p>
<p>This is what the next leader of the AzGOP should be thinking about &#8211; strategic product development &#8211; not &#8220;make overs&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Maricopa PC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maricopa PC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11th Commandment- I&#039;m with you. Thank you LJD for the post. And thank you DSW to allow supporters from both sides to contribute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11th Commandment- I&#8217;m with you. Thank you LJD for the post. And thank you DSW to allow supporters from both sides to contribute.</p>
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		<title>By: 11th Commandment</title>
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		<dc:creator>11th Commandment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No candidate who is vicious in their campaign against another Republican will get my support. That includes those candidates who do not restrain their supporters from nasty postings on this website. The candidate who exhibits the intelligence and integrity to truly BE unifying and NOT just talk about it, will get my support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No candidate who is vicious in their campaign against another Republican will get my support. That includes those candidates who do not restrain their supporters from nasty postings on this website. The candidate who exhibits the intelligence and integrity to truly BE unifying and NOT just talk about it, will get my support.</p>
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		<title>By: Veritas Vincit</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/01/16/face-itwe-need-a-new-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-122420</link>
		<dc:creator>Veritas Vincit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where was this strategy in 06 and 08?   

Magic Question for Everyone here:
Just because someone decides to run as a &#039;Republican&#039; does that mean that the state party must automatically support them?

Are there guidelines for being a &#039;Republican&#039; office holder?  Or is that designation fluid and circumstantial depending on public opinion polls?

And while I&#039;m thinking about it, whatever happened to Dan Quayle&#039;s fundraising visit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where was this strategy in 06 and 08?   </p>
<p>Magic Question for Everyone here:<br />
Just because someone decides to run as a &#8216;Republican&#8217; does that mean that the state party must automatically support them?</p>
<p>Are there guidelines for being a &#8216;Republican&#8217; office holder?  Or is that designation fluid and circumstantial depending on public opinion polls?</p>
<p>And while I&#8217;m thinking about it, whatever happened to Dan Quayle&#8217;s fundraising visit?</p>
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		<title>By: Saddlemaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saddlemaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2008, why did the state GOP raise only half the amount it did in a non Presidential 2006 year? Why did Pima County have it&#039;s own federal account that almost matched the State GOP fundraising ability? Wasn&#039;t there a picture a while back of Chairmen Pullen giving the finger to a picture of Senator McCain thereby showing great party unity. Do you define a conservative Republican as a one issue person who only cares about immigration or is there a broader definition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2008, why did the state GOP raise only half the amount it did in a non Presidential 2006 year? Why did Pima County have it&#8217;s own federal account that almost matched the State GOP fundraising ability? Wasn&#8217;t there a picture a while back of Chairmen Pullen giving the finger to a picture of Senator McCain thereby showing great party unity. Do you define a conservative Republican as a one issue person who only cares about immigration or is there a broader definition?</p>
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		<title>By: nightcrawler</title>
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		<dc:creator>nightcrawler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hunter,

Re: Post # 15

I believe that..Given the CDs involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hunter,</p>
<p>Re: Post # 15</p>
<p>I believe that..Given the CDs involved.</p>
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		<title>By: AZRed</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just can&#039;t depend on the top of the ticket to carry us to some wins every year.  McCain running against Obama was a huge boon to the state.

But at some point, continuing to ignore voter registration the way Pullen has done is just going to kill us, and this will be a blue state in four years if we dont change something.

Im all in favor of Randy running for some kind of political office.  Let him talk about his ideas and views in that forum.  But he just isnt the right fit for Chairman of a political party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just can&#8217;t depend on the top of the ticket to carry us to some wins every year.  McCain running against Obama was a huge boon to the state.</p>
<p>But at some point, continuing to ignore voter registration the way Pullen has done is just going to kill us, and this will be a blue state in four years if we dont change something.</p>
<p>Im all in favor of Randy running for some kind of political office.  Let him talk about his ideas and views in that forum.  But he just isnt the right fit for Chairman of a political party.</p>
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		<title>By: AZRed</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a deep breath Hunter.  No, my point was that the argument that Republicans only lost races because they were RINOs / stupid whatever is ridiculous.  

All those candidates are solid conservatives like the kind you (and I) want to be in power.  To answer your question, if we had a Chairman that could raise at least half as much as Salmon, not been asleep at the switch on voter registration and early ballot, and not been such a wincing embarassment (showing the middle finger on national television, the infamous masturbator ad, etc), I think they would have done better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a deep breath Hunter.  No, my point was that the argument that Republicans only lost races because they were RINOs / stupid whatever is ridiculous.  </p>
<p>All those candidates are solid conservatives like the kind you (and I) want to be in power.  To answer your question, if we had a Chairman that could raise at least half as much as Salmon, not been asleep at the switch on voter registration and early ballot, and not been such a wincing embarassment (showing the middle finger on national television, the infamous masturbator ad, etc), I think they would have done better.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2009/01/16/face-itwe-need-a-new-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-122299</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AZRed, do you think Republicans would have done better with candidates more liberal (or less conservative) than Schweikert, Hay, or Dial in those races? Better enough to win?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AZRed, do you think Republicans would have done better with candidates more liberal (or less conservative) than Schweikert, Hay, or Dial in those races? Better enough to win?</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AZRed, we already have a chairman who thinks Republicans elected to office are better than Democrats elected to office. Your attempt to characterize Randy Pullen differently is false. To paraphrase you, &quot;Sounds like another James ad!&quot;

As for attacking other Republicans, McCain and Flake are among the worst offenders. Their attacks on Goldwater in 2006 were savage, false, and disgraceful. Ditto for the attacks on Russell Pearce in 2008. McCain&#039;s people were also not too nice to Republican PCs in LD11 when they decided to go after Rob Haney and specifically targeted Tom Husband.

Shadegg was not much better with his endorsement of Tony Bouie in LD6 and the attacks on Republicans who support strict enforcement of laws against illegal aliens (quoted in the New York Times). Also, Bouie and his fellow travellers ran a particularly nasty campaign against Carl Seel in the LD6 House race.

When it comes to attacking other Republicans, Randy Pullen and his supporters are pikers compared to the Congressional delegation and their cronies.

Certainly everyone who tries to accomplish things makes some mistakes, but if overall decency and civility as well as commitment to Republican values are the right qualities for leadership, then Randy Pullen is the right person for the state party chairmanship. 

Lisa James has demonstrated no commitment to helping the state party unless it helps her consulting business. I don&#039;t fault her for lack of involvement in the state party over the last two years, but her performance as an LD8 officer seems to have been, at best, lackluster. Also, some of the people backing her are responsible for some of the most viscious, vile attacks on fellow Republicans.

The root issue, though, is whether the Republican Party stands for certain principles or is just an adjunct of Republican incumbents&#039; campaign committees. Pullen is for principles, and James is an adjunct campaign committee chairman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AZRed, we already have a chairman who thinks Republicans elected to office are better than Democrats elected to office. Your attempt to characterize Randy Pullen differently is false. To paraphrase you, &#8220;Sounds like another James ad!&#8221;</p>
<p>As for attacking other Republicans, McCain and Flake are among the worst offenders. Their attacks on Goldwater in 2006 were savage, false, and disgraceful. Ditto for the attacks on Russell Pearce in 2008. McCain&#8217;s people were also not too nice to Republican PCs in LD11 when they decided to go after Rob Haney and specifically targeted Tom Husband.</p>
<p>Shadegg was not much better with his endorsement of Tony Bouie in LD6 and the attacks on Republicans who support strict enforcement of laws against illegal aliens (quoted in the New York Times). Also, Bouie and his fellow travellers ran a particularly nasty campaign against Carl Seel in the LD6 House race.</p>
<p>When it comes to attacking other Republicans, Randy Pullen and his supporters are pikers compared to the Congressional delegation and their cronies.</p>
<p>Certainly everyone who tries to accomplish things makes some mistakes, but if overall decency and civility as well as commitment to Republican values are the right qualities for leadership, then Randy Pullen is the right person for the state party chairmanship. </p>
<p>Lisa James has demonstrated no commitment to helping the state party unless it helps her consulting business. I don&#8217;t fault her for lack of involvement in the state party over the last two years, but her performance as an LD8 officer seems to have been, at best, lackluster. Also, some of the people backing her are responsible for some of the most viscious, vile attacks on fellow Republicans.</p>
<p>The root issue, though, is whether the Republican Party stands for certain principles or is just an adjunct of Republican incumbents&#8217; campaign committees. Pullen is for principles, and James is an adjunct campaign committee chairman.</p>
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		<title>By: AZRed</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a cheerleader for drugs and prostitution? Sounds like another Pullen ad!

Seriously, I&#039;m one of those who thinks that Kyl is better than Pederson, that Bush is better than Kerry, and that McCain is better than Obama.

In a couple weeks hopefully we&#039;ll have a chairman that feels the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a cheerleader for drugs and prostitution? Sounds like another Pullen ad!</p>
<p>Seriously, I&#8217;m one of those who thinks that Kyl is better than Pederson, that Bush is better than Kerry, and that McCain is better than Obama.</p>
<p>In a couple weeks hopefully we&#8217;ll have a chairman that feels the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Hip Hip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hip Hip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice straw man argument Red.  Except no one claimed that Hay or Schweikert or Dial were libs.  So oh well, nice try anyway.

And your claim that Pullen &quot;spends more time attacking Republicans... than actually contrasting out Party with Democrats&quot; is absolutely retarded.  Outside of the skirmish over amnesty 18 months ago, Pullen has been nothing but positive about our Republican candidates and he has blasted away at the Democrats, just like a Party Chairman is expected to.

And just so we&#039;re clear, Pullen was right on the amnesty fight, McCain and Kyl were wrong, and both McCain and Kyl now say they &quot;see the light&quot; when it comes to border enforcement.  McCain still supports amnesty and Kyl is backing off of it, but Pullen was right all along.  That means of the three, it was Pullen who was defending our party and our principles.

You are one of those who believe that Pullen should be a cheerleader for amnesty if McCain supports it, a cheerleader for tax increases if Bush supports it, a cheerleader for legalizing drugs and prostitution if Flake supports it, etc.  Whatever our delegation wants is good enough for you and you&#039;re ready to march lockstep with them over the edge of the cliff if need be.

Thank God we have a Chairman who is loyal to our Party and our principles without your slavish devotion to those who temporarily wear the crowns and carry the titles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice straw man argument Red.  Except no one claimed that Hay or Schweikert or Dial were libs.  So oh well, nice try anyway.</p>
<p>And your claim that Pullen &#8220;spends more time attacking Republicans&#8230; than actually contrasting out Party with Democrats&#8221; is absolutely retarded.  Outside of the skirmish over amnesty 18 months ago, Pullen has been nothing but positive about our Republican candidates and he has blasted away at the Democrats, just like a Party Chairman is expected to.</p>
<p>And just so we&#8217;re clear, Pullen was right on the amnesty fight, McCain and Kyl were wrong, and both McCain and Kyl now say they &#8220;see the light&#8221; when it comes to border enforcement.  McCain still supports amnesty and Kyl is backing off of it, but Pullen was right all along.  That means of the three, it was Pullen who was defending our party and our principles.</p>
<p>You are one of those who believe that Pullen should be a cheerleader for amnesty if McCain supports it, a cheerleader for tax increases if Bush supports it, a cheerleader for legalizing drugs and prostitution if Flake supports it, etc.  Whatever our delegation wants is good enough for you and you&#8217;re ready to march lockstep with them over the edge of the cliff if need be.</p>
<p>Thank God we have a Chairman who is loyal to our Party and our principles without your slavish devotion to those who temporarily wear the crowns and carry the titles.</p>
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		<title>By: AZRed</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hunter, Sydney Hay is a liberal? David Schweikert a big lib? Jeff Dial, etc? Give me a break.

The party still believes in Reagan principles. Just as it did under Matt Salmon and Bob Fannin.  

What has changed is that we have a party chairman now that spends more time attacking Republicans and putting himself in the spotlight than actually contrasting our Party with Democrats.  Reagan also believed in the 11th commandment, and uniting the party, not dividing it for his own ego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hunter, Sydney Hay is a liberal? David Schweikert a big lib? Jeff Dial, etc? Give me a break.</p>
<p>The party still believes in Reagan principles. Just as it did under Matt Salmon and Bob Fannin.  </p>
<p>What has changed is that we have a party chairman now that spends more time attacking Republicans and putting himself in the spotlight than actually contrasting our Party with Democrats.  Reagan also believed in the 11th commandment, and uniting the party, not dividing it for his own ego.</p>
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