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	<title>Comments on: Elections by Ward Only</title>
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		<title>By: Htpcbox</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/16/elections-by-ward-only/comment-page-1/#comment-208430</link>
		<dc:creator>Htpcbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Меня заинтересовал этот материал, не могли бы Вы поподробнее и с дополнениями раскрыть эту тему?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Меня заинтересовал этот материал, не могли бы Вы поподробнее и с дополнениями раскрыть эту тему?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Hill</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/16/elections-by-ward-only/comment-page-1/#comment-114013</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the comments about the history of Tucson&#039;s city elections and wanted to throw my 2 cents in.  I go back to the days when the parties organized City Committees every odd year to battle for the city council.  I was Ward 5 Captain in 1971, I think, and we were always told Tucson had the San Diego form of city government, weak mayor/strong city manager with the election in the primary by ward and the general, city wide and partisan.  I believe San Diego is still the same and partisan.  Pete Wilson started his career as the Republican Mayor of San Diego.

While Sen-elect Paton is at it, I think he should also dump the weak mayor system and make the mayor&#039;s job more powerful than that of the bureaucrat, the city manager, and thus more responsive to the electorate.  As a merit badge counselor for the Boy Scouts, I always tell them the mayor&#039;s job is mainly cutting ribbons at grand openings and little else.  That always seems to shock them, due to the press the mayor gets, but he has no actual power, since he cannot even vote except to break tie votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the comments about the history of Tucson&#8217;s city elections and wanted to throw my 2 cents in.  I go back to the days when the parties organized City Committees every odd year to battle for the city council.  I was Ward 5 Captain in 1971, I think, and we were always told Tucson had the San Diego form of city government, weak mayor/strong city manager with the election in the primary by ward and the general, city wide and partisan.  I believe San Diego is still the same and partisan.  Pete Wilson started his career as the Republican Mayor of San Diego.</p>
<p>While Sen-elect Paton is at it, I think he should also dump the weak mayor system and make the mayor&#8217;s job more powerful than that of the bureaucrat, the city manager, and thus more responsive to the electorate.  As a merit badge counselor for the Boy Scouts, I always tell them the mayor&#8217;s job is mainly cutting ribbons at grand openings and little else.  That always seems to shock them, due to the press the mayor gets, but he has no actual power, since he cannot even vote except to break tie votes.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Hay</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/16/elections-by-ward-only/comment-page-1/#comment-113543</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Hay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Veritas apparently is unfamiliar with elections for city council in Tucson.

Currently the elections are citywide.

A shame Veritas is so ignorant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veritas apparently is unfamiliar with elections for city council in Tucson.</p>
<p>Currently the elections are citywide.</p>
<p>A shame Veritas is so ignorant!</p>
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		<title>By: Veritas Vincit</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/16/elections-by-ward-only/comment-page-1/#comment-113025</link>
		<dc:creator>Veritas Vincit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In any economic analysis of a city&#039;s future prospects, there are 3 basic questions asked:
1) Are councilperson elected city-wide or by district or ward?
2) Does the city have rent control?
3) Does the city charge a utility users tax?

One yes raises eyebrows while three indicates a very poor selection for a private economic investment.

Tucson&#039;s transportation grid and lously downtown area are monuments to having a ward election system.

A shame too, the place has such potential in spite of itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In any economic analysis of a city&#8217;s future prospects, there are 3 basic questions asked:<br />
1) Are councilperson elected city-wide or by district or ward?<br />
2) Does the city have rent control?<br />
3) Does the city charge a utility users tax?</p>
<p>One yes raises eyebrows while three indicates a very poor selection for a private economic investment.</p>
<p>Tucson&#8217;s transportation grid and lously downtown area are monuments to having a ward election system.</p>
<p>A shame too, the place has such potential in spite of itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrock</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/16/elections-by-ward-only/comment-page-1/#comment-112970</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope we end up getting non-partisan elections, and voting by ward in Tucson.  Maybe we can actually get something done in this city.  Go get &#039;em Paton!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope we end up getting non-partisan elections, and voting by ward in Tucson.  Maybe we can actually get something done in this city.  Go get &#8216;em Paton!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott in Tegucigalpa</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/16/elections-by-ward-only/comment-page-1/#comment-112527</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott in Tegucigalpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the root of all of the Old Pueblo&#039;s political evil. The double think and double speak that justifies this structure of institutionalized taxation without representation is comical. 

Jonathan Paton is the first politician with the backbone, smarts, and clout to start taking down the mafioso system in Tucson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the root of all of the Old Pueblo&#8217;s political evil. The double think and double speak that justifies this structure of institutionalized taxation without representation is comical. </p>
<p>Jonathan Paton is the first politician with the backbone, smarts, and clout to start taking down the mafioso system in Tucson.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Hay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Hay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am unsureabout the whether to have nonpartisan elections, but, am totally in favor of councilmembers being elected as well as nominated by the people of their wards.

Oh, and I&#039;m a resident of the City of Tucson who has worked in campaigns for city council.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am unsureabout the whether to have nonpartisan elections, but, am totally in favor of councilmembers being elected as well as nominated by the people of their wards.</p>
<p>Oh, and I&#8217;m a resident of the City of Tucson who has worked in campaigns for city council.</p>
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		<title>By: SonoranSam</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/16/elections-by-ward-only/comment-page-1/#comment-112429</link>
		<dc:creator>SonoranSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I let CA, NY and TX elect my President, since they pick more members of the Electoral College. And when I lived in Tucson, I lived under Legislative rules that were written by people up in Phoenix.

The fact remains. Republicans like to say the government that works best is the government that&#039;s closest to the people - unless you&#039;re the Legislature, and you don&#039;t like something Tucson is doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I let CA, NY and TX elect my President, since they pick more members of the Electoral College. And when I lived in Tucson, I lived under Legislative rules that were written by people up in Phoenix.</p>
<p>The fact remains. Republicans like to say the government that works best is the government that&#8217;s closest to the people &#8211; unless you&#8217;re the Legislature, and you don&#8217;t like something Tucson is doing.</p>
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		<title>By: DSW</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/16/elections-by-ward-only/comment-page-1/#comment-112408</link>
		<dc:creator>DSW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SonoranSam,

Would you be OK letting NM, UT, CA, NY, etc. vote on who you nominate to Congress or the US Senate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SonoranSam,</p>
<p>Would you be OK letting NM, UT, CA, NY, etc. vote on who you nominate to Congress or the US Senate?</p>
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		<title>By: SonoranSam</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/16/elections-by-ward-only/comment-page-1/#comment-112405</link>
		<dc:creator>SonoranSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In the early 90’s I was part of a committee to change Tucson’s city charter so that voters could vote for their primary candidate winners not just in the primary but in the general election as well. That effort failed primarily because there was limited interest to move it forward.&quot;

In other words, DSW, you couldn&#039;t muster enough political support, so it died.

And in true Republican fashion, when it suits your partisan needs you&#039;ll happily use your legislative majority to force something down the throats of Tucson that it doesn&#039;t want.

Let&#039;s hope you don&#039;t succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In the early 90’s I was part of a committee to change Tucson’s city charter so that voters could vote for their primary candidate winners not just in the primary but in the general election as well. That effort failed primarily because there was limited interest to move it forward.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, DSW, you couldn&#8217;t muster enough political support, so it died.</p>
<p>And in true Republican fashion, when it suits your partisan needs you&#8217;ll happily use your legislative majority to force something down the throats of Tucson that it doesn&#8217;t want.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope you don&#8217;t succeed.</p>
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