Comments on: House Democrats purge state representative Phil Lopes for not being extreme enough http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/ Arizona Politics, News, Commentary and Information with a Blatantly Conservative Worldview Presented by an Alliance of Writers, Activists, Consultants and Government Insiders. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:38:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: todd http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109804 todd Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:34:44 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109804 Casual Observer, I think Sinema claims to be a former socialist so that seems like an important clarification to your post. Regardless, if the leftist label have so vast a definition that it is meaningless, it seems extremely sloppy to use it. Truth be told, Sinema is no different than many standard Democrats in other regions of the country and is probably slightly more to the right than many elected politicians in Europe. Casual Observer,
I think Sinema claims to be a former socialist so that seems like an important clarification to your post. Regardless, if the leftist label have so vast a definition that it is meaningless, it seems extremely sloppy to use it. Truth be told, Sinema is no different than many standard Democrats in other regions of the country and is probably slightly more to the right than many elected politicians in Europe.

]]> By: Casual Observer http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109772 Casual Observer Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:13:39 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109772 As a self-proclaimed socialist, perhaps the opportunity has not been sufficiently offered to see just how far left Sinema can/would go. Given regionalized and historical differences of 1940's Latin America and 21st century America, she is pretty far left based on the issues, era, and opportunity. As a self-proclaimed socialist, perhaps the opportunity has not been sufficiently offered to see just how far left Sinema can/would go. Given regionalized and historical differences of 1940′s Latin America and 21st century America, she is pretty far left based on the issues, era, and opportunity.

]]> By: todd http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109444 todd Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:03:44 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109444 David K., When Sinema starts advocating an armed class struggle leading to a dictatorship of the proletariat you might have a point but that isn't the case so at this point you are just making things up. David K.,
When Sinema starts advocating an armed class struggle leading to a dictatorship of the proletariat you might have a point but that isn’t the case so at this point you are just making things up.

]]> By: Dave K. http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109433 Dave K. Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:40:11 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109433 "Che is extreme left I guess. Sinema is not anyway near Che and do think she is shows how wacked out your compass is." Do think it shows you don't know Kyrsten very well. “Che is extreme left I guess. Sinema is not anyway near Che and do think she is shows how wacked out your compass is.”

Do think it shows you don’t know Kyrsten very well.

]]> By: BSExpress http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109313 BSExpress Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:44:06 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109313 Well, in the alternative universe where Tara Roesler is a Democrat and the Arizona Republica(n) is a far left rag, then I guess Sinema = Che. Well, in the alternative universe where Tara Roesler is a Democrat and the Arizona Republica(n) is a far left rag, then I guess Sinema = Che.

]]> By: todd http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109300 todd Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:54:20 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109300 Che is extreme left I guess. Sinema is not anyway near Che and do think she is shows how wacked out your compass is. Che is extreme left I guess. Sinema is not anyway near Che and do think she is shows how wacked out your compass is.

]]> By: GOP Boomer Gal http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109248 GOP Boomer Gal Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:01:31 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109248 Todd, USA is unique and superior; that's why lefties are considered lefties in our country. Todd,

USA is unique and superior; that’s why lefties are considered lefties in our country.

]]> By: Dave K. http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109245 Dave K. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:47:42 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109245 Gee Todd, if you don't think Sinema is extreme left, where would you put Marx and Che in the scale? Gee Todd, if you don’t think Sinema is extreme left, where would you put Marx and Che in the scale?

]]> By: todd http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109201 todd Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:32:20 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109201 No Nick, the Democratic Party as a whole is center-right. Some individuals in the party may go one way or the other but none I can think of would be described as extreme left. No Nick, the Democratic Party as a whole is center-right. Some individuals in the party may go one way or the other but none I can think of would be described as extreme left.

]]> By: Glendale GOP http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109188 Glendale GOP Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:47:00 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109188 Sinema didn't run as an Independent in 2002, she ran as a Green. The Dems did say she was too extreme, but the piece you are showing was from a liberal Republican who was running against her, Tara Roesler. Almost a Dem, but technically very much a Republican. Of course, Obama said Hillary had no meaningful foreign policy experience and then a year later made her Secretary of State, so I guess what is said in campaigns doesn't count when it comes to governing. Sinema didn’t run as an Independent in 2002, she ran as a Green.

The Dems did say she was too extreme, but the piece you are showing was from a liberal Republican who was running against her, Tara Roesler. Almost a Dem, but technically very much a Republican.

Of course, Obama said Hillary had no meaningful foreign policy experience and then a year later made her Secretary of State, so I guess what is said in campaigns doesn’t count when it comes to governing.

]]> By: Bill http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109185 Bill Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:38:40 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109185 It's convenient to lump people together, but what evidence does anyone have of David Lujan engaging in "nastiness"? He's one of the most low-key guys at the Capitol, from what I've seen. It’s convenient to lump people together, but what evidence does anyone have of David Lujan engaging in “nastiness”? He’s one of the most low-key guys at the Capitol, from what I’ve seen.

]]> By: Nick S. http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109163 Nick S. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:23:27 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109163 Lujan and Sinema are center right? Well, maybe in North Korea or Zimbabwe. Lujan and Sinema are center right? Well, maybe in North Korea or Zimbabwe.

]]> By: todd http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109136 todd Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:37:16 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109136 You people are funny. You think the Dems are extreme left? In most countries they would be considered center-right. This shows how completely politically insulated the author is. You people are funny. You think the Dems are extreme left? In most countries they would be considered center-right. This shows how completely politically insulated the author is.

]]> By: Arbitrary observer http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109125 Arbitrary observer Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:45:30 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109125 Lopes is Portugese, which is considered Latino by most, but not Hispanic. The Portugese settled Brazil and they spoke Portugese, not Spanish, hence Brazilians and Portugese are not HiSPANic. I think Portugese is considered white, although it's really silly when you consider the Portugese are partially descended from the Moors (Arabs) do overall are darker-skinned than the Spaniards, then they intermarried with the same dark-skinned natives the Spaniards did in Southern America. Lopes has come under criticism in the legislature by the left wing Hispanics for not being "Hispanic" so he can't represent them as well as a "Hispanic" legislator might. More of that Democrat groupthink - we all think alike based on the color of our skin. Lopes is Portugese, which is considered Latino by most, but not Hispanic. The Portugese settled Brazil and they spoke Portugese, not Spanish, hence Brazilians and Portugese are not HiSPANic. I think Portugese is considered white, although it’s really silly when you consider the Portugese are partially descended from the Moors (Arabs) do overall are darker-skinned than the Spaniards, then they intermarried with the same dark-skinned natives the Spaniards did in Southern America.

Lopes has come under criticism in the legislature by the left wing Hispanics for not being “Hispanic” so he can’t represent them as well as a “Hispanic” legislator might. More of that Democrat groupthink – we all think alike based on the color of our skin.

]]> By: Basil St. John http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/12/02/house-democrats-purge-state-representative-phil-lopes-for-not-being-extreme-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-109120 Basil St. John Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:30:02 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3456#comment-109120 Lujan is white and Lopes isn't? Lujan is white and Lopes isn’t?

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