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	<title>Comments on: LD-10 Republican Doug Quelland Falsely Assailed by Dems &amp; Republic</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Vaughan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Vaughan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 13:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have known Carol Vandercook for a couple of decades and, if she says there is a problem with a politico,you can take that to the bank! All I see here in this article is the same whiney, little, sore losers spewing out venom to mask their faulty candidate. It is time for Arizona to wake up! The republican party does not have ANYONE the calibre of Barry Goldwater in its ranks so, why not give the Dems a chance to FIX OUR PROBLEMS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have known Carol Vandercook for a couple of decades and, if she says there is a problem with a politico,you can take that to the bank! All I see here in this article is the same whiney, little, sore losers spewing out venom to mask their faulty candidate. It is time for Arizona to wake up! The republican party does not have ANYONE the calibre of Barry Goldwater in its ranks so, why not give the Dems a chance to FIX OUR PROBLEMS?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonoran Alliance &#187; CCEC Goes After Quelland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonoran Alliance &#187; CCEC Goes After Quelland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 01:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here&#8217;s an update (thanks to Gila Courier) on a post we brought you late last year regarding State Representative Doug Quelland. (&#8221;LD-10 Republican Doug Quelland Falsely Assailed by Dems &amp; Republic&#8220;) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here&#8217;s an update (thanks to Gila Courier) on a post we brought you late last year regarding State Representative Doug Quelland. (&#8221;LD-10 Republican Doug Quelland Falsely Assailed by Dems &amp; Republic&#8220;) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TIm Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>TIm Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quelland says he fired the firm with in 24 hours. If that is the case, why then when I went down to the Secretary State’s office on Friday, were there several “nominating petitions” for Mr. Quelland with several names of people from that firm well after he supposedly fired them? I think that Quelland is quite dishonest and I think he staged the whole thing anticipating he might lose and this would give him the chance to play the victim much like he did when he lost his last race. Except then, he blamed the Speaker for throwing him under the bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quelland says he fired the firm with in 24 hours. If that is the case, why then when I went down to the Secretary State’s office on Friday, were there several “nominating petitions” for Mr. Quelland with several names of people from that firm well after he supposedly fired them? I think that Quelland is quite dishonest and I think he staged the whole thing anticipating he might lose and this would give him the chance to play the victim much like he did when he lost his last race. Except then, he blamed the Speaker for throwing him under the bus.</p>
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		<title>By: AZace</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All candidates run as traditional candidates by default. They can not become a Clean Elections candidate unless they specifically file as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All candidates run as traditional candidates by default. They can not become a Clean Elections candidate unless they specifically file as such.</p>
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		<title>By: Wooden Teeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wooden Teeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quelland &quot;signing on&quot; to CCEC is irrelevant, he still (according to the issues posted above) would be in violation.  CCEC does not have it&#039;s jurisdiction restricted to  CE candidates.  Any traditional candidate running against a CE candidate can/has to comply with the rules/laws.

Whether the committee existed or not is also irrelevant.  If more than one person was working together to influence the outcome of the election, that&#039;s a de facto committee, registered or not.  Not registering is on problem, not reporting expenditures is another.

It&#039;s like driving drunk, without a license.  You don&#039;t go to court and claim you can&#039;t have violated the &quot;drivers license law&quot; because you didn&#039;t have a license.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quelland &#8220;signing on&#8221; to CCEC is irrelevant, he still (according to the issues posted above) would be in violation.  CCEC does not have it&#8217;s jurisdiction restricted to  CE candidates.  Any traditional candidate running against a CE candidate can/has to comply with the rules/laws.</p>
<p>Whether the committee existed or not is also irrelevant.  If more than one person was working together to influence the outcome of the election, that&#8217;s a de facto committee, registered or not.  Not registering is on problem, not reporting expenditures is another.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like driving drunk, without a license.  You don&#8217;t go to court and claim you can&#8217;t have violated the &#8220;drivers license law&#8221; because you didn&#8217;t have a license.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiny Elvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiny Elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, Constantine Querard is involved  (DiCessio)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, Constantine Querard is involved  (DiCessio)</p>
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		<title>By: SA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This clearly falls outside of the jurisdiction of the CCEC because Quelland&#039;s committee had not signed on under CCEC&#039;s agreement. Therefore, the issue has nothing to do with CCEC and the CCEC cannot pursue removing Quelland from office because no law was violated under CCEC and Quelland.

That makes the complaint an issue under Title 16 and the Secretary of State&#039;s Office. However, if no campaign committee existed at the time the contract was signed and the contract was between IPR and Quelland, then there is likely an issue. At that point, the contract comes under scrutiny and whether it was really a contract or a proposal.

Keep in mind that Quelland may have had another committee open at that time and it may have overlapped with the current committee. Timing may be everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This clearly falls outside of the jurisdiction of the CCEC because Quelland&#8217;s committee had not signed on under CCEC&#8217;s agreement. Therefore, the issue has nothing to do with CCEC and the CCEC cannot pursue removing Quelland from office because no law was violated under CCEC and Quelland.</p>
<p>That makes the complaint an issue under Title 16 and the Secretary of State&#8217;s Office. However, if no campaign committee existed at the time the contract was signed and the contract was between IPR and Quelland, then there is likely an issue. At that point, the contract comes under scrutiny and whether it was really a contract or a proposal.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that Quelland may have had another committee open at that time and it may have overlapped with the current committee. Timing may be everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Her?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Her?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wooden Teeth and Todd are both spot on here. Quelland obviously admitted to signing a contract nearly two months before he had a campaign committee, which is a blatant violation of the law. I&#039;ve seen the CCEC complaint, which included the contract -- I wonder if Quelland paid the $2000 deposit required by the contract and, if so, with what money?

As to the reporting, this was anything but the paper &quot;assailing&quot; Mr Q. The fact is that a complaint was filed. Period. The story relates that, explains it and attempts to get comments from the players in the matter. If DQ deosn&#039;t want to talk to the press about it, it doesn&#039;t mean anything they write is attacking him. I learned long ago from reporter friends that stories don&#039;t die in a reporter&#039;s notebook if you dno&#039;t want to talk: they just don&#039;t inlcude your side of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wooden Teeth and Todd are both spot on here. Quelland obviously admitted to signing a contract nearly two months before he had a campaign committee, which is a blatant violation of the law. I&#8217;ve seen the CCEC complaint, which included the contract &#8212; I wonder if Quelland paid the $2000 deposit required by the contract and, if so, with what money?</p>
<p>As to the reporting, this was anything but the paper &#8220;assailing&#8221; Mr Q. The fact is that a complaint was filed. Period. The story relates that, explains it and attempts to get comments from the players in the matter. If DQ deosn&#8217;t want to talk to the press about it, it doesn&#8217;t mean anything they write is attacking him. I learned long ago from reporter friends that stories don&#8217;t die in a reporter&#8217;s notebook if you dno&#8217;t want to talk: they just don&#8217;t inlcude your side of things.</p>
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		<title>By: Duke the Dog</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/11/19/ld-10-republican-doug-quelland-falsely-assailed-by-dems-republic/comment-page-1/#comment-106714</link>
		<dc:creator>Duke the Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry Doug Q.  With J-No out of the way, your friends in the GOP led legislature will set to work to dismantle the clean elections system, if Goldwater doesn&#039;t stick a knife in it first.

The CCEC is a pharse.  The Dems madde a mockery of it in the Corporation Commission race and with the million + they and their union buddies spent on the legislative races.

Kill this drain of taxpayer money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry Doug Q.  With J-No out of the way, your friends in the GOP led legislature will set to work to dismantle the clean elections system, if Goldwater doesn&#8217;t stick a knife in it first.</p>
<p>The CCEC is a pharse.  The Dems madde a mockery of it in the Corporation Commission race and with the million + they and their union buddies spent on the legislative races.</p>
<p>Kill this drain of taxpayer money.</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a minute. I have no idea what the truth of any of this and I dare say SA does not either. This is certainly Quelland&#039;s side and may be correct. However, what is the &quot;sloppy journalism&quot; you claim Mary Jo Pitzl is guilty of. She reported on the complaint and also reported on Quelland&#039;s attorney&#039;s claim that the contract was nixed after 2 days. She contacted Davis and he disputes this claim. Just because she doesn&#039;t take Quelland&#039;s argument at face value - assuming she was even provide with it - does not make the article sloppy journalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a minute. I have no idea what the truth of any of this and I dare say SA does not either. This is certainly Quelland&#8217;s side and may be correct. However, what is the &#8220;sloppy journalism&#8221; you claim Mary Jo Pitzl is guilty of. She reported on the complaint and also reported on Quelland&#8217;s attorney&#8217;s claim that the contract was nixed after 2 days. She contacted Davis and he disputes this claim. Just because she doesn&#8217;t take Quelland&#8217;s argument at face value &#8211; assuming she was even provide with it &#8211; does not make the article sloppy journalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Wooden Teeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wooden Teeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this explanation Quelland has broken the law, but which one?  How about the one that says if you&#039;re going to campaign for office you need to form a committee.  You certainly need to form one before signing any contracts, whether you actually expend funds or not.  Basically, you can&#039;t do ANYTHING campaign-related without forming a committee, according to the statute.

But, alas, we are not a nation of laws but of men.  Go ahead and take down signs and you won&#039;t be charged according to statute.  Go ahead and fail to report correctly which candidate your IE targeted.  Go ahead and spend lots of your personal money on your campaign but fail to report it to CCEC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this explanation Quelland has broken the law, but which one?  How about the one that says if you&#8217;re going to campaign for office you need to form a committee.  You certainly need to form one before signing any contracts, whether you actually expend funds or not.  Basically, you can&#8217;t do ANYTHING campaign-related without forming a committee, according to the statute.</p>
<p>But, alas, we are not a nation of laws but of men.  Go ahead and take down signs and you won&#8217;t be charged according to statute.  Go ahead and fail to report correctly which candidate your IE targeted.  Go ahead and spend lots of your personal money on your campaign but fail to report it to CCEC.</p>
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