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	<title>Comments on: Medical Choice initiative would NOT aid abortion in any way</title>
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		<title>By: traci young</title>
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		<dc:creator>traci young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 03:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really liked your opinion! I look forward to more insightful info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked your opinion! I look forward to more insightful info.</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for no campaign either. Paranoid much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for no campaign either. Paranoid much?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/04/medical-choice-initiative-would-not-aid-abortion-in-any-way/comment-page-1/#comment-95290</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;masterminding&quot;?  Hah!  I have no involvement with any campaign.  I have a real problem with giving power to Initiative authors and taking it away from elected officials I can see and hold accountable.  Same for all the other initiatives.  101 is among the most opaque and far reaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;masterminding&#8221;?  Hah!  I have no involvement with any campaign.  I have a real problem with giving power to Initiative authors and taking it away from elected officials I can see and hold accountable.  Same for all the other initiatives.  101 is among the most opaque and far reaching.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/04/medical-choice-initiative-would-not-aid-abortion-in-any-way/comment-page-1/#comment-95188</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>supporters of Prop 101: individuals, patients and families

Opponents: big government bureaucrats (Tony Rodgers and Janet Napolitano), mega insurance companies with government contracts, and ideologues who only want a complete government run health care system.

And Tony Rodgers and his cronies can&#039;t even do it legally --- they are using taxpayer funds to fight the right of people to make their own health care decisions.

In fact, my guess is Jack and Todd work for the government thugs  that are masterminding the no campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>supporters of Prop 101: individuals, patients and families</p>
<p>Opponents: big government bureaucrats (Tony Rodgers and Janet Napolitano), mega insurance companies with government contracts, and ideologues who only want a complete government run health care system.</p>
<p>And Tony Rodgers and his cronies can&#8217;t even do it legally &#8212; they are using taxpayer funds to fight the right of people to make their own health care decisions.</p>
<p>In fact, my guess is Jack and Todd work for the government thugs  that are masterminding the no campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/04/medical-choice-initiative-would-not-aid-abortion-in-any-way/comment-page-1/#comment-95128</link>
		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack - you are absolutely right. These Goldwater people don&#039;t want to really explain what the bill does so they couch everything in feel good language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack &#8211; you are absolutely right. These Goldwater people don&#8217;t want to really explain what the bill does so they couch everything in feel good language.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/04/medical-choice-initiative-would-not-aid-abortion-in-any-way/comment-page-1/#comment-94979</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes.  Those guys.  Man they do so many nasty things. Actually, I&#039;m convinced that the initiative process is now the preferred route of the Big Special Interests....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes.  Those guys.  Man they do so many nasty things. Actually, I&#8217;m convinced that the initiative process is now the preferred route of the Big Special Interests&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/04/medical-choice-initiative-would-not-aid-abortion-in-any-way/comment-page-1/#comment-94921</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack-- voting NO will get us the same absurdities in health care we are seeing in the mortgage debacle.

Vote YES to protect our rights FROM the bureaucrats and big special interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack&#8211; voting NO will get us the same absurdities in health care we are seeing in the mortgage debacle.</p>
<p>Vote YES to protect our rights FROM the bureaucrats and big special interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/04/medical-choice-initiative-would-not-aid-abortion-in-any-way/comment-page-1/#comment-94901</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a wonderful example of why the I&amp;R process is out of control.  Seemingly benign language has implications far beyond what any of us can reasonably see.  The language is drafted by proponents only, with an end in mind.  They offer seemingly generous and inarguable rationale and dismiss criticisms of potential implications with a &quot;tut, tut&quot;, until after it has passed, when they use the language like a hammer.  I vote no.  Run a bill. Debate the language.  But leave the Arizona Constitution alone and don&#039;t muck it up (any more than it already has been).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a wonderful example of why the I&amp;R process is out of control.  Seemingly benign language has implications far beyond what any of us can reasonably see.  The language is drafted by proponents only, with an end in mind.  They offer seemingly generous and inarguable rationale and dismiss criticisms of potential implications with a &#8220;tut, tut&#8221;, until after it has passed, when they use the language like a hammer.  I vote no.  Run a bill. Debate the language.  But leave the Arizona Constitution alone and don&#8217;t muck it up (any more than it already has been).</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/04/medical-choice-initiative-would-not-aid-abortion-in-any-way/comment-page-1/#comment-94877</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Munsil endorses Prop 101

http://www.politickeraz.com/lenmunsil/2425/prop-101-health-care-and-choice-arizona</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Munsil endorses Prop 101</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politickeraz.com/lenmunsil/2425/prop-101-health-care-and-choice-arizona" rel="nofollow">http://www.politickeraz.com/lenmunsil/2425/prop-101-health-care-and-choice-arizona</a></p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/04/medical-choice-initiative-would-not-aid-abortion-in-any-way/comment-page-1/#comment-94486</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I would not focus on the abortion issue re: Prop 101--- their is no issue here.

I understand that both Russell Pearce and Len Munsil --- 2 pro-life advocates I trust --- are also endorsing Prop 101.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I would not focus on the abortion issue re: Prop 101&#8212; their is no issue here.</p>
<p>I understand that both Russell Pearce and Len Munsil &#8212; 2 pro-life advocates I trust &#8212; are also endorsing Prop 101.</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t believe Nick S. so I looked at Europe. Per capita abortion rates in Western Europe are far below the US with an even more extreme difference seen in teen abortion rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t believe Nick S. so I looked at Europe. Per capita abortion rates in Western Europe are far below the US with an even more extreme difference seen in teen abortion rates.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick S.</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/04/medical-choice-initiative-would-not-aid-abortion-in-any-way/comment-page-1/#comment-94364</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the government takes control of heath care, you will have massive funding for planned parenthood and the government &quot;encouraging&quot; abortions.  Don&#039;t believe me, look at Europe.

To vote &quot;no&quot; on prop 101 is to vote for abortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the government takes control of heath care, you will have massive funding for planned parenthood and the government &#8220;encouraging&#8221; abortions.  Don&#8217;t believe me, look at Europe.</p>
<p>To vote &#8220;no&#8221; on prop 101 is to vote for abortion.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/04/medical-choice-initiative-would-not-aid-abortion-in-any-way/comment-page-1/#comment-94182</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the plain language of Prop 101 --- &quot;lawful medical services&quot; will be clear.

I think that the plain language that expressly does not require anyone or anything to pay for any particular services will be clear.

The alternative-- the slow, or not so  slow-- creeping toward complete government control over healthcare, however, is clear --- the life protections you and I would like to see will be eroded quietly, but certainly, as bureaucrats with no accountability interpret rules without regard to even the slightest moral compass.

If I can be so bold--- if we attach every discussion of health care rights to the issue of abortion--- which fundamentally is NOT a health care issue but rather a moral, justice, and criminal one --- we might as well just hand the keys to the kingdom to government bureaucrats now.

Please reconsider your opposition and vote yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the plain language of Prop 101 &#8212; &#8220;lawful medical services&#8221; will be clear.</p>
<p>I think that the plain language that expressly does not require anyone or anything to pay for any particular services will be clear.</p>
<p>The alternative&#8211; the slow, or not so  slow&#8211; creeping toward complete government control over healthcare, however, is clear &#8212; the life protections you and I would like to see will be eroded quietly, but certainly, as bureaucrats with no accountability interpret rules without regard to even the slightest moral compass.</p>
<p>If I can be so bold&#8212; if we attach every discussion of health care rights to the issue of abortion&#8212; which fundamentally is NOT a health care issue but rather a moral, justice, and criminal one &#8212; we might as well just hand the keys to the kingdom to government bureaucrats now.</p>
<p>Please reconsider your opposition and vote yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you, tom, loud and clear...but what do you think will happen when this issue ends up in our Arizona &quot;courts&quot; system?!!?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you, tom, loud and clear&#8230;but what do you think will happen when this issue ends up in our Arizona &#8220;courts&#8221; system?!!?!?</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt- Prop 101 is vitally important. I am pro-life, very.

I do not want a mandated government run health care system to even be a possibility.  

Prop 101 protects vital individual rights- let&#039;s win here and THEN address the basic issue of the &#039;legality&#039; of abortion-- a right that is not in any way curtailed by this initiative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt- Prop 101 is vitally important. I am pro-life, very.</p>
<p>I do not want a mandated government run health care system to even be a possibility.  </p>
<p>Prop 101 protects vital individual rights- let&#8217;s win here and THEN address the basic issue of the &#8216;legality&#8217; of abortion&#8211; a right that is not in any way curtailed by this initiative.</p>
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