Comments on: Bee responds to Giffords’ vote for the bailout http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/03/bee-responds-to-giffords-vote-for-the-bailout/ Arizona Politics, News, Commentary and Information with a Blatantly Conservative Worldview Presented by an Alliance of Writers, Activists, Consultants and Government Insiders. Fri, 25 May 2012 13:39:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Iris Lynch http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/03/bee-responds-to-giffords-vote-for-the-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-93663 Iris Lynch Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:02:34 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3162#comment-93663 The K, my comment had nothing to do with blaming anyone at all. It was a simple look into OUR futures where we will ALL share in the misery to come regardless of our culpability or innocence. Then again, if you insist on the blaming game, there were literally hundreds of (mostly male) people who are supposed to be doing OUR bidding who have voted to take care of ...WHO? WHAT?.. most likely themselves. The most knowlegeable in these matters,i.e. economists with no dog in this fight, seem to agree that there were far better ways to solve the problem. Providing, of course, that the problem was the one that was stated. On the other hand, IF these Congresspeople were in fact saving their own bacon, this 'solution' works well. Now there is no need to investigate and the media can keep up the drumbeat that the Republicans and Bush are solely to blame. But it is a merely a bandaid on a carotid artery. The K, my comment had nothing to do with blaming anyone at all. It was a simple look into OUR futures where we will ALL share in the misery to come regardless of our culpability or innocence. Then again, if you insist on the blaming game, there were literally hundreds of (mostly male) people who are supposed to be doing OUR bidding who have voted to take care of …WHO? WHAT?.. most likely themselves.

The most knowlegeable in these matters,i.e. economists with no dog in this fight, seem to agree that there were far better ways to solve the problem. Providing, of course, that the problem was the one that was stated. On the other hand, IF these Congresspeople were in fact saving their own bacon, this ‘solution’ works well. Now there is no need to investigate and the media can keep up the drumbeat that the Republicans and Bush are solely to blame. But it is a merely a bandaid on a carotid artery.

]]> By: The Klute http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/03/bee-responds-to-giffords-vote-for-the-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-93539 The Klute Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:49:59 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3162#comment-93539 Well, Iris, I'm sure you'll be advocating punishing John Shadegg at the ballot box, right? Well, Iris, I’m sure you’ll be advocating punishing John Shadegg at the ballot box, right?

]]> By: Iris Lynch http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/03/bee-responds-to-giffords-vote-for-the-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-93519 Iris Lynch Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:17:01 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3162#comment-93519 Results so far: The stock market went down. Gold went up slightly. More paper money will be printed, ergo inflation and the double whammy of recession. States are going to need bailouts starting with California. New York is suffering from loss of revenue on those big million dollar severance pays. More printing, more inflation. Unemployment is up and we will take notice when it reaches 25% and apple selling will be a career choice. Yeah, this is going to be fun alright. Results so far: The stock market went down. Gold went up slightly. More paper money will be printed, ergo inflation and the double whammy of recession. States are going to need bailouts starting with California. New York is suffering from loss of revenue on those big million dollar severance pays. More printing, more inflation. Unemployment is up and we will take notice when it reaches 25% and apple selling will be a career choice. Yeah, this is going to be fun alright.

]]> By: kralmajales http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/03/bee-responds-to-giffords-vote-for-the-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-93455 kralmajales Sat, 04 Oct 2008 02:04:08 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3162#comment-93455 Oh and what would Tim Bee have done? Maybe he would have compromised with the Democrats like he did for the last two budgets that many of you here call fiscally irresponsible and what has put ARizona in the toilet. Oh and what would Tim Bee have done? Maybe he would have compromised with the Democrats like he did for the last two budgets that many of you here call fiscally irresponsible and what has put ARizona in the toilet.

]]> By: kralmajales http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/03/bee-responds-to-giffords-vote-for-the-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-93454 kralmajales Sat, 04 Oct 2008 02:02:57 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3162#comment-93454 Yeah...this is a vote that no one comes out clean on. Those who opposed it can try to respond to how they said no at a time when most retirees accounts were about the go into the crapper...and by the way...put there as a result of this administration and 8 years of GOP control. On other hand a bailout is just plain crappy as well. We spend hard earned tax dollars on bailing out wealthy corporations. The add ons, most of them, are about making it palatable to the middle and poorer classes, but its still a bailout. Yeah…this is a vote that no one comes out clean on. Those who opposed it can try to respond to how they said no at a time when most retirees accounts were about the go into the crapper…and by the way…put there as a result of this administration and 8 years of GOP control.

On other hand a bailout is just plain crappy as well. We spend hard earned tax dollars on bailing out wealthy corporations. The add ons, most of them, are about making it palatable to the middle and poorer classes, but its still a bailout.

]]> By: Keeper http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/03/bee-responds-to-giffords-vote-for-the-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-93371 Keeper Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:47:51 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3162#comment-93371 Bee looks incredibly naive in this press release, not to mention irresponsible. You don't hold up a critical bill because you don't like a few minor details. Pass the bill, then fix the other stuff later. No, that's not how it should be done in a perfect world, but that's how Congress "works." Bee looks incredibly naive in this press release, not to mention irresponsible. You don’t hold up a critical bill because you don’t like a few minor details. Pass the bill, then fix the other stuff later. No, that’s not how it should be done in a perfect world, but that’s how Congress “works.”

]]> By: The Klute http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/03/bee-responds-to-giffords-vote-for-the-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-93361 The Klute Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:25:31 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3162#comment-93361 "McCain did say [to the Denver Post editorial board] he was making calls to House members and had persuaded fellow Arizonan, Rep. John Shaddeg (R) to support the bill when it comes up for another vote this afternoon." This is fun! “McCain did say [to the Denver Post editorial board] he was making calls to House members and had persuaded fellow Arizonan, Rep. John Shaddeg (R) to support the bill when it comes up for another vote this afternoon.”

This is fun!

]]> By: The Klute http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/03/bee-responds-to-giffords-vote-for-the-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-93358 The Klute Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:21:35 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3162#comment-93358 Oh, and Bruce,perhaps you'd have more influence over John Shadegg than Gabby. Which "Dear Leader" did he take orders from? Oh, and Bruce,perhaps you’d have more influence over John Shadegg than Gabby. Which “Dear Leader” did he take orders from?

]]> By: The Klute http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/03/bee-responds-to-giffords-vote-for-the-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-93347 The Klute Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:46:49 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3162#comment-93347 Bruce, By use of the terms "Dear Leaders" are you implying that the house Democratic leadership is part of a Stalinistic communist plot? Bruce,

By use of the terms “Dear Leaders” are you implying that the house Democratic leadership is part of a Stalinistic communist plot?

]]> By: JGlow2 http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/03/bee-responds-to-giffords-vote-for-the-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-93301 JGlow2 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:55:34 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3162#comment-93301 One more congresperson bought off by special intrest groups. I agree the solar tax credit is important, but it should not be added to a blatently dangerous bill. Goodbye capitalism, welcome to the United Socialist State of America. Mr. Bee, you have my vote. One more congresperson bought off by special intrest groups. I agree the solar tax credit is important, but it should not be added to a blatently dangerous bill. Goodbye capitalism, welcome to the United Socialist State of America. Mr. Bee, you have my vote.

]]> By: Bruce Ash http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/10/03/bee-responds-to-giffords-vote-for-the-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-93270 Bruce Ash Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:54:56 +0000 http://sonoranalliance.com/?p=3162#comment-93270 NOTHING NEW HERE..........OUR CONGRESSGIRL HAS BEEN FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS FROM HER DEAR LEADER(S) SNCE SHE TOOK THE OATH IN 2007. SHE HAS DONE AN AWFUL JOB SERVING SE ARIZONA THIS WAS AN AWFUL BILL. CHANGE CAN'T WAIT GABBY......... NOTHING NEW HERE……….OUR CONGRESSGIRL HAS BEEN FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS FROM HER DEAR LEADER(S) SNCE SHE TOOK THE OATH IN 2007.

SHE HAS DONE AN AWFUL JOB SERVING SE ARIZONA

THIS WAS AN AWFUL BILL.

CHANGE CAN’T WAIT GABBY………

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