Tue 19 Aug 2008
Flake, Shadegg, Franks Call for Removal of JT Ready
Posted by Sonoran Alliance under Political Parties , Press Release , Race Relations , Religion[54] Comments
Sonoran Alliance received the following letter from a congressional staffer this afternoon:
August 19, 2008
Mr. Tom Husband
Chairman, Maricopa County Republican Party
Dear Mr. Husband,
It has recently come to our attention that J.T. Ready remains a Precinct Committeeman in District 18.
As you know, J.T. Ready is a member of the National Socialist Movement, better known as the Neo-Nazis. In September of last year, just two months after Mr. Ready was a featured speaker with other public officials and personalities at a rally at the State Capitol, he was a featured speaker at a Neo-Nazi conference in Omaha, Nebraska (a gathering which featured a “swastika lighting” as part of the evening’s activities). He was identified at the gathering as a “Republican Activist from Arizona.” Pictures of Mr. Ready at the Neo-Nazi
meeting can be easily found on the internet.
More recently, Mr. Ready has attended District 18 meetings and was present at the Maricopa County Republican Party meeting earlier this year, where he reportedly distributed racist and anti-Semitic literature. Can you imagine bringing your friends and neighbors to meetings where Mr. Ready is an elected official?
We are not familiar with the process by which elected Precinct Committeemen are removed from office. We’re not even sure our bylaws contemplate such a situation. If such a remedy is available, it should be immediately pursued. If it does not, we should, at a minimum, adopt a resolution asking for Mr. Ready’s immediate resignation.
We simply cannot allow Mr. Ready to serve out his term, even if that term were to expire next week. We need to take action now and send a message that such behavior has no place in the Republican Party.
We have copied this letter to the Chairman of the State Republican Party as well as the Chairman of District 18. We look forward to your timely response.
Sincerely yours,
Congressman Jeff Flake
Congressman John Shadegg
Congressman Trent Franks
cc: Randy Pullen, State Party Chairman; Matt Tolman, District 18 Chairman
August 19th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
“We simply cannot allow Mr. Ready to serve out his term, even if that term were to expire next week. We need to take action now and send a message that such behavior has no place in the Republican Party.”
Couldn’t have been said any better. Pearce and Arpaio (both affiliated with Ready) should join the call for this scum and his United for A Sovereign America Nazi brethren to be shown the door. There is no place for hate in the Republican Party.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
This is pretty ironic really. People have been trying to throw Mr. Bouie out of a legislative race, and National Committeeman Ash asks us all to play nice and ignore Mr. Bouie’s lifelong membership with the Democrat party.
Now three congressmen, along with other party leaders, want to remove someone as a precinct committeeman, and the person they want to remove isn’t running for anything, but probably votes with Republicans on most issues.
So it looks like we allow Democrats to run for office as Republicans, but do not allow Republicans to be precinct committeemen if we don’t like some of their other beliefs. This is a strange time for our party.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Keeper: Are you saying that it is ok for a Nazi to be an elected official in our party? I hope you get the chance to clarify, because if you don’t then shame on you. There is no equivalency between a converted Republican like Bouie and a Neo-Nazi. Our party leaders should have run Ready out of the party as soon as his affiliation became known. Pearce repudiated him, whats your hesitation?
August 19th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Ohbrother,
He may be a neo-nazi, repudiated by conservative including Pearce, but as long as he votes with Republicans he’s, at least according to Keeper, worth keeping.
It’s really stunning how crazy some people are isn’t it. This unfortunately is how some in our party (Keeper) think.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Clarification – No, I don’t support Nazis, and I certainly don’t want them elected in our party, anymore than I want practicing Democrats to be in our party. I was simply making an observation that this is an interesting time for our party. Get a grip guys.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
According to the June 26, 2008 listing of Republican Precinct Committeemen (including write-in candidates), JT Ready does not appear on the list.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
DSW: You miss the point. He is currently serving as a PC!! This has been know by our state and county party leadership and they have done nothing to get rid of this guy? Its outrageous. If our party is willing to look the other way on evil like this than you will lose me and thousands of others. Get rid of him already!
August 19th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
DSW,
I think the link you posted is for the PCs to be elected by default (or by vote for contested precincts) for the 2008 – 2010 term. The PCs who were appointed and/or elected in 2006 are still active until 9/2/08. This is more of a symbolic gesture. My only question is why did they wait so long ?
August 19th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Oh and Keeper, one more thing: As wrong as democrats are there is no equivalency between D’s and Nazi’s. I for one would certainly choose D’s over Nazis. Do you really understand what you are saying? Are democrats, RINO’s, converted Republicans, or anyone else who does not agree with you the same as a neo-nazi? If that is so then the “conservatism” you are peddling is teetering on fascism.
August 19th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
I am not surprised that the Congressmen do not know how or if you can remove a Precinct Committeeman from office. They only care about the Party structure when it is serving their re-election needs.
Isn’t it interesting that these illegal immigration scofflaw supporters are so interested in this issue now that their friend and attack dog Sproul is using this person in an attempt to destroy Russell Pearce.
Well, they may not read this, but Precinct Committeemen are elected county officials elected by the voters in their voting precinct. As such, the only way to remove them is to recall them from office by going to the voters in their jurisdiction just as you would any other elected official. You could not even start the process prior to the expiration of his term of office, which is September 1.
However, it is time that the sanctimonious Shadegg withdraws his endorsement of the inveterate liar Tony Bouie, who lied long enough so that many ballots were already turned in before the extent of his ethical challenges were known.
This call by the Congressmen is just another sleight of hand trick with two goals: Hurt Russell Pearce and protect Tony Bouie. Careful that the fire you are lighting does not flare up into a blazing inferno that could envelop you when you run again.
August 19th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Richard Wayne: So would you support an effort to remove this nazi as an elected PC of our party? Does it matter how late it is? Is a nazi in our party ok for two weeks, three weeks, how long? I think one day is too long.
August 19th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Go back and read my first comment where I said “if we don’t like some of their beliefs.” The “we” obviously include me, and indicates that I too have a problem with those beliefs. And, for the second time, I WAS ONLY MAKING AN OBSERVATION, not comparing and contrasting Democrats and Nazis. It’s amazing what people choose to read into comments.
But, now that you mention it, Roe v. Wade has led to the extermination of over 40,000,000 babies, mostly poor and minority. So, I guess there are some parallels, even if they are not the same, between the values of Democrats who support Roe and Nazis.
Got to sign off for a few hours but I’ll be happy to re-engage later.
August 19th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Not just for the political purposes of these supporters of illegal immigration as a means to take another shot at Pearce. All of them knew who and what J.T. Ready was in January. If it was important to them they would have said something long before now.
Again, we do not have a way to get rid of him in this short of a time frame. What about that are you having trouble with? Read my earlier post on the process that would have to take place. It is not possible and I believe that Shadegg and Flake, at least, know it.
This is a red herring. It doesn’t matter whether he is acceptable to me, you, or them. Congressmen: Get rid of the problem that you have influence over. Withdraw your endorsement of Bouie.
August 19th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Russell Pearce needs to stand up and ask to have his friend JT Ready removed as well. Sad truth, is he probably won’t. Anyone who supports JT Ready should be asked to resign as well.
August 19th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Richard Wayne,
Franks, Shadegg and Flake couldn’t be in safer districts, so how do you see them as “only care(ing) about the Party structure when it is serving their re-election needs?”
The “sanctimonious” John Shadegg? Congressman Shadegg has been as involved and important as anyone in this state in building up the grassroots base of the party. I recall him phone banking in 2000 and 2002 (has Pearce/Arpaio ever phone banked or knocked on a door for a candidate other then themselves?), show up at LD meetings to pump up the base, remain faithful to the class of 1994, and generally just bust his tail for the party. He never did these things for his own candidacy, he never needed to. CD3 has been one of the safest seats in Congress for years. Shadegg has given a lifetime of service to the party and shouldn’t be called out or questioned on party loyalty.
As for J.T. Ready….he’s not worthy of membership in this party.
August 19th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
It’s about time. Thank God!!!
August 19th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
In January 2007 at the MCRC meeting at Sunnyslope High School, I recall a resolution offered by Rob Haney that eventually passed that, I believe, sought to strip PC’s of the privileges of the office if they endorsed a Democrat.
Did that resolution establish a process that could be employed here to remove Ready?
August 19th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
So where is John McCain’s signature on this letter? Doesn’t want to lose the Nazi/KKK vote I imagine.
August 19th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Wow! Richard, mega-dittos! Shadegg has control over withdrawing his endorsement of Bouie. If he won’t do that then he has lost credibility with me. If improving the Party is so important to these three, get Bouie on the horn and tell him to quit wasting the resources of our Republican candidates. Bouie was as welcome to try his hand as anyone else. But, now he’s a proven liar and needs to get out of our hair. We don’t need Bouie’s kind of publicity.
August 19th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
What a bunch of Johnny come lately’s the three of them are. The County Party looked at it more than a year ago and there is no process available, except for a recall election which may or may not apply. Remember that PCs are elected, same as Mayors and Congressmen, and its not up to the Party to kick someone out after they’re elected. Now, if those three were really serious, they could look into the recall effort, or Flake could use some of that mega-money his pals are using for payback on Pearce to fund a recall effort. But they won’t do that.
John McCain and his friends could help with that effort as well. Oops, I forgot, they’re busy funding an effort to get of PCs who actually support and uphold the party’s platform, so I guess they’re too busy to go after Nazis.
The fact is the Party has already done its thing and JT is outta here in two weeks. Those three monkeys signing the letter is only designed to keep the JT Ready thing alive in the media to further embarrass Pearce. I expect it from Flake, I’m learning to expect it from Shadegg. I’m guessing they asked Franks, told him about the Nazi, and he went along with it because he’s a stand-up guy. At least I want to believe that. There has to be somebody in our delegation we can still believe in!
August 19th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Did you know that David Duke was the state representative in Louisiana’s District 81? Pearce is the state representative in Arizona’s District 18. KKKoincidence? Just an observation.
August 20th, 2008 at 1:51 am
Well folks, I advise you to do the right thing and purge this scum from your party. We on the left get our fair share of people we wouldn’t like to be linked with either. Still, now the the cat is out, give him the boot or we’ll hang you on this one in the very near future.
-The Evil Liberal Baby Killers
August 20th, 2008 at 6:38 am
It never ceases to amaze. John Shadegg – sanctimonious? Shadegg, Flake and Franks called “three monkeys” They are “supporters of illegal immigration”
Wow! Imagine what the comments would be if Flake, Shadegg, and Franks weren’t 3 of the most conservative members of congress and were just run of the mill congressman.
You guys are just falling off the deep end aren’t you?
Defending the right of a neo-nazi to be a PC
Come on guys how bat-shit crazy is that?
August 20th, 2008 at 8:04 am
Pearce’s persistent protection of that pustule Ready is predictable.
August 20th, 2008 at 8:55 am
Nobody is defending his right to be a PC Tom. They’re making the point that the matter has already been dealt with as much as the law allows. They also make the point that Ready is out in less than two weeks and the only reason the Congressmen bring it up now is to try and keep alive a story they think will hurt Pearce. John Shadegg and his staff was at the meeting where JT Ready put his crap on all the chairs and he didn’t bother putting out any press releases back then.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:53 am
If memory serves me right he also showed up at the State Convention in a kilt (not a pretty site) and had a go at the microphone. The MCRC meeting had a lot of attendees, in the hundreds for sure, perhaps over a thousand. I don’t believe the heavy set JT distributed all thoses fliers (3 per set) on each chair by himself, he had to have had help.
August 20th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Tom,
I couldn’t agree with you more. It seems that as long as you support Pearce’s platform on immigration, you can associate with Nazi’s and expect the support of some of the folks that read this site. Seriously, I can’t believe some of the things I’m reading. It appears that the only thing that matters to some folks is ensuring that we “purge” Hispanics out of Arizona. This is a scary place to go and I applaud the Congressmen for pointing out that JT needs to go.
As for Bouie, I am beginning to think that their opposition to his candidacy has nothing to do with lying, being a Democrat, or anything else. Instead, it appears that his detractors don’t like that he is black and is open to looking at immigration reform, instead of parroting Pearce’s rhetoric. It shouldn’t matter if he was registered Democrat. In college I was registered Independent, and didn’t want to go to the hassle of filing out the form to change. However, in the voting booth, I pulled the lever for Republicans every time. If that is the best ammunition you have, he should win in a landslide, and I can now see why Rep. Shadegg endorsed him. Do you so-called Republicans no longer welcome converts to the cause? If so, please leave my party and take your friend JT with you!
August 20th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
John Doe,
I find it refreshing to read good old fashioned common sense. Thank you.
August 20th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Shane, and Republican PCs,
The lot of you should know better that being elected is NOT the only way to become a PC. PCs can be appointed to the position by the District Chair. So, if Shane is correct, and Ready’s name was NOT on the ballot, then the District chair appointed him. That’s pretty shameful. If Ready WAS on the ballot and the Republicans in the precinct elected him, it MAY be due to pure ignorance of who Ready is.
If even an appointed PC can’t be removed, except by a recall (seems odd to me), I think this shows the fundamental flaw in electing PCs, or even Party nominees, by public ballot. In Virginia, PCs are elected by a party convention…same with many elected positions as well. For example, Republican Senate candidate Jim Gilmore was elected at the State Party convention, NOT by the masses at large in some watered-down primary where people can jump party lines and interfere in the election of another party’s candidates. So, Ready’s case, to me, is more evidence of why the party should take control of it’s own destiny, throw off the shackles of public ballots, and nominate their own candidates through private ballots cast by party members alone. if the party controls who is nominated, or elected to party positions, they we wouldn’t have to deal with a silly and costly recall election over a patently stupid neo-Nazi.
What also baffles me is how a SOCIALIST (Nazis were the Nationalist SOCIALIST party)can consider himself a Republican. He must be a neo-con rather than a TRUE small-government conservative.
August 20th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Anti,
I actually agree with many of your points. By the way, Ready was elected, go the archives of the Maricopa County Recorders website circa 2006. His precinct was very small.
As to your point about how people should become PCs, keep in mind that the vast majority of people are not as involved as those who read these blogs. What you don’t want is for some party insiders to unfairly control the participation process.
August 20th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
“Like it is” has correctly reported the situation. Most of the other posts are based on ignorance or willful misreprentation. These Congressmen knew what JT Ready did back in January at the MCRC meeting and did NOTHING about it then when the outrage should have been fresh in their minds. The County party leaders vigorously condemned these handouts from JT Ready immediately at the meeting. They were collected for disposal as soon as it was brought to their attention.
JT Ready was elected as a PC 2 years ago. He is not running for PC this year. I heard that he was strongly encouraged not to run by LD18 leaders (including Russell Pearce) working in conjunction with County Republican leaders.
Rehashing this issue right before the primary election that will see JT Ready departing from office anyway when there are much more important things to do now (remember the elections?) is just ridiculous.
The LD18 and County Leadership have already dealt with the problem as effectively as possible under party rules and the law.
The Congressmen signing the letter are either ignorant of the facts or are trying to mislead people as to what is really going on. I hope, on this matter, that ignorance is the explanation for all of the Congressmen, but I suspect it is probably not for two of them.
August 20th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Hunter and others,
I am amazed that you continue to defend having JT as a PC. I don’t think it should matter when the COngressmen knew or why they didn’t act sooner, they have acted and the Maricopa County Republican Party should quickly move to remove JT. In addition, it also shouldn’t matter if he is not running and if he was “encouraged” not to run again by LD 18 leaders. If the party knew he was handing out the racist and inappropriate literature they should have immediatley rebuked him at the meeting, asked him to leave, taken up a vote or resolution that called for his removal, and then made a public statement on why he is not welcome in the party. Instead the MCRP made the courageous, and I use that term loosely, decision to gather all of the offensive material and throw it away. In my opinion, this speaks volumes about the current leadership of the MCRP and should cast a tremendous amount of doubt on their judgement and ability to lead the Republicn party in Maricopa County.
August 20th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
John Doe, I know you’re making up stuff just to keep bashing away, but NO ONE is defending JT as a PC. You’re either a troublemaker or a moron. Either way, you’re not contributing here.
August 20th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
ohbrother,
When did Pearce disavow from Ready and what did he say?
He was quoted at the Arpaio Roast on 12/01/08 of saying” I don’t think JT’s a bad guy-he just associates with the wrong people.” Kind of big brotherly dont you think? Then, at the recent Gibbons/Pearce debate a freind of mine video taped him claiming that New Times manufactured the relationship and “it was just a picture.” He actually pretends his only meeting was an accidental picture…hmm. How many times has Pearce flip/flopped on the whole JT Ready thing and how much Koolaid do you right wing extremists need to drink to blind you from the facts. When it comes to Pearce, so many would rather blame the messager then get all the facts.
Pearce can be seen applauding Ready at the state capital in the spring of 07. But don’t look if you dont want the truth. There are several photos (and more to come) of them chumming all day. And lets not forget that JT Ready was already exposed as a neo-Nazi by the ADL at a state leg public hearing 3 months before Pearce and him hung out all day in public and worked the crowd together. Watch and learn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi9izfNXxzo
(Just for the record-I dont get paid any of that Nathan Sproul money-I made this video because Mesa and Arizona deserve the truth, if they want it.) I have to admit that I enjoy reading republicans argueing over weather a neo-Nazi should be alloed as a Commiteeman. He was for 2 years and you didn’t seem to mind.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:06 am
The bottom line is that Republicans did not know that JT Ready was a Neo-Nazi when he was elected as a PC and for some time afterwards. When people found out and realized it for themselves, JT Ready was targeted by Russell Pearce and LD18 Republican Leadership and MCRC Leaders to NOT be elected a PC in this upcoming election.
Keep in mind that having liberals calling a Republican a Nazi is not going to cause other Republicans to automatically assume he is one. The first assumption will be that the Republican is being smeared because liberals sometimes get very emotional and use considerable amounts of hyperbole. If the allegations persist, then someone, if given reasonable cause for suspicion, will look into the matter. In this case, the accusation was correct.
JT Ready is not going to be elected as a PC this year, and we have people like Russell Pearce to thank for that. I have personally discussed this situation with Russell Pearce and know that he was instrumental in getting JT Ready to not run this year.
As for a recall election, that would be too labor intensive and would put Ready in the spotlight compared to ignoring JT Ready until his term expired (as we do with many unpleasant elected officials) and has, essentially, the same effect.
This all happened without our Congressmen getting involved. Now, at the last minute, when Republican activists are busy with a primary election, they want the MCRC to waste time trying to remove someone from office when that person’s term will expire before a recall election could even be held.
This is just a cheap publicity stunt to try to make Russell Pearce look bad. Actually, though, Russell Pearce already dealt with the situation while our 3 congressmen were sitting on their thumbs. Even when they decide to “do” something, they just whined for someone else to do something rather work with the county party to solve the problem.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:12 am
Hunter, Do you honestly believe what you just wrote? If you do, you need some serious mental help.
August 21st, 2008 at 8:18 am
UP Freely, that is the situation. Your refusal to accept it is your problem – not mine.
August 21st, 2008 at 8:31 am
Like It and Hunter,
It is clear that you can not be convinced that something should be done right now. Which is fine, we live in a free country and you are intitled to your opinion. I am not suprised that Like It has sunk to the level of calling people names and claiming that no one is supporting JT as a PC. I believe that if you allow him to finish his term and slink back to his hate cave, then you are in fact supporting him as a PC. If you believe that Neonazis do not belong in the party, then he should be out now, not after his term expires. This also goes to my earlier point. When JT handed out that offensive material, his should have been expelled as a PC on the spot. Unfortunately, the current leadership of the MCRP decided not to take the apporiate steps and remove him. I am amazed that Like It and Hunter don’t seem to share my thoughts on that.
August 21st, 2008 at 8:37 am
You folks want to spin this as the liberals fault because you don’t listen? JT Ready was exposed publicly by the ADL at a Legislative hearing. It’s not liberals fault you don’t pay attention. And regardless of the source-you think you would’ve learned something..PAY ATTENTION. You love to blame the liberal media when things do not go your way. If Pearce gets elected-more will be revealed as to Pearces ties with him or other questionable;e groups and individuals. This will not go away by the local GOP crazy’s sticking their heads in the sand.
More will be revealed. The longer you try to blame us for exposing him, the more likely you will look like the truth-dodgers you are. If this were a Dem-you would be all over it and you know you would.
FACT: Republicans (Pearce) knew back in early 07 as did others witnessing the public Leg. hearing. If you didn’t, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Even after he was exposed, Pearce and Ready’s followers gathered at the State Capitol-Pearce secured the grounds for the event and
Condoned Ready’s msg, and chummed with him.
Get it through your heads- we all knew and tried to warn you.
This would’ve been less embarrasing if it were handled years ago like a responsable group of good Americans should have.
Fact: When it was brought to the VFW,Post 9400′s attention that they were allowing United for a Soveriegn America ( a group with several well known neo-Nazi’s as well as questionable leadership) they did the right thing and had the group find a new meeting plave.
Why cant the republicans be as responsable?
August 21st, 2008 at 8:42 am
Dennis,
I am guessing that we don’t vote the same way, but I agree with all of your points. If there was responsible leadership within the Maricopa County Republican Party, this would have been handled a long time ago. However, it appears that it is more important to support Pearce and his associates than it is to remove a known neonazi from the party.
August 21st, 2008 at 10:56 am
Russell Pearce and his associates told JT Ready not to run for reelection as a PC. He followed their advice.
A PC is an elected official – not just a member of a club. It’s not an easy thing to remove one; it is much easier to just make sure he does not get reelcted.
There can be legitimate disagreement about whether this was handled as quickly as possible or the method of handling it was perfect. There can be no legitimate argument that almost all Republicans including Russell Pearce and his supporters pushed JT Ready out of an official place in the Republican Party as a PC(nobody can really control how he registers to vote).
I think there can also be no reasonable argument that the letter from the Congressmen served any legitimate purpose at this time since any process to remove JT Ready from his position would take longer than having him lose his position because his term is ending.
Accusing people of being JT Ready supporters because of not dealing with him EXACTLY the way you would is irresponsible and wrong. By the way, I don’t recall any of the complainers about how this was handled organizing a recall election for JT Ready back in January. If it was so easy to do, why didn’t they do it.
The bottom line is that Russell Pearce solved the problem before the Congressmen even publicly acknowledged it.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Thank you Hunter for taking the time to respond to these guys. Like Flake, Gibbons and the Democrat Party, they are manufacturing a fake scandal to try and hurt the GOP candidates they don’t like. Flake and his cronies (including those on this website) are still mad that Russell considered running against Flake and this is all payback. No worries though, Flake has statewide ambition and we’ll remember his gutter politics when that time comes.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Hunter,
If that is true why didn’t the LD18 leadership and RP ask for JT’s resignation as a PC ? It is hard to remove him, a fool’s errand, so the only real solution would be for him to step down voluntarily.
It really wasn’t up to RP to remove him in the first place. LD18 leadership and the MCRC had that duty. That is the real story here, not RP.
JT does not act alone, a lot of people must have known his status and just remained silent. Those same people are probably praying that JT remains silent as they throw him under a bus.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Like It,
So now JT Ready is “fake scandal?” Seriously, you need to think about what you are saying before you start typing. Having a neonazi as a PC is a scandal, whether or not you want to accept it. I would also argue that having JT as an elected PC causes much more damage than anything your think Rep. Flake or others have done. It is unfortunate that you will overlook people like JT as long as they share Pearce’s stance on immigration. I think you should take a hard look at yourself in the mirror before you start to talk about gutter politics or call anyone names.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:37 pm
John Doe, I think you should read what “Like It Is” said more carefully. You seem to have completely misunderstood it.
The scandal he is referring the Congressmen brining this issue up when they know it is too late to do anything about it. Any of them could have written this letter (or even just called on the phone) to get something done months ago. Flake is quoted as saying he was unaware Ready was still a PC until recently which is why he didn’t do anything about it until now. Assuming that’s true (clearly a BIG assumption), he didn’t know what was going on any more than many other people. Does that make his ignorance of JT Ready’s position scandalous? No, of course not.
As long as we allow people to get elected as PCs and not have to get approval from a central vetting body, we will always have problems like this. Even with a central vetting body, there could still be problems.I prefer the more democratic (small D)approach because the alternative is even worse.
Is having JT Ready as a PC a scandal? No. It is awful, though. Have the leaders in LD 18 dealt with it? Yes. Allowing him to get reelected would be a scandal, and that’s not happening. Based on observing JT Ready at the county and state meetings, I presume that just getting him not to run took forceful persuation. I suspect getting him to resign would be almost impossible.
I’m curious, what would you critics actually do? I mean realistic, legal options that would actually work – not ideal, fantasy solutions. How would your solution be better than what is being done? Specifically regarding the Congressmen, my questions is this: Given where we are right now (regardless of how things could have been handled in the past) when they wrote this letter, what realistic options are available for dealing with JT Ready other than letting his term expire? What REALISTIC options do they have for dealing with the problem other than what is already being done?
August 21st, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Again-you folks have a bigger problem on your hands than you think. I can sympathize with the dilemma of having a neo-Nazi run unopposed as a PC. That could happen to the Dems or worse. But there is so much more here and more is being revealed all the time.
I have asked the readers to please direct me to when and what Pearce has said on record concerning his involvement with Ready.
I still await a link and direct dated quote. Please be the Party with integrity and help me with this.
I will supply 2 quotes Pearce made concerning the known neo-Nazi Ready and his involvement. One from 12/01/07 at the Arpaio Roast and one he gave on video on his way into the Pearce\Gibbons debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi9izfNXxzo
He has never shown consistency on this issue. And shame on the GOP’s for not making him. He represents your values?
Pearce is your problem-not Ready or Flake. It was public info about Ready’s background 3 months before they chummed at the State Capitol. Call me what you will, but so far (except John Doe) I see a group of folks in denial and they do not even realize that more trouble is right around the corner. Stories like this have a way of uncovering more pictures and info as time goes on.
Who sent the neo-Nazi email to Pearce that he sent to over 200 people? Apology or no apology, it opens up speculation.
Flake never sent it, I didn’t and neither did Gibbons. But more importantly who sent it to Pearce? Pearce knows but has avioded the issue. He no longer can. He hurts all of you when he does.
If Pearce would’ve been man enough to admit that he had marriage problems, got counseling (through his church or wherever) the story may not go away but the man would earn integrity.
Instead-police records show up from violence from his first marriage. Not real good for a man who wont admit a mistake. Look what happened to Clinton-he lied to us. That was the scandal that got him. Do you folks really expect us to believe Pearce?
You still don’t see a problem here? If Pearce gets the nomination and goes on to a likely victory, you may be having to remove him.
Is that good for Mesa or Arizona or the GOP? Does either party really need scandal? Is that good for America?
August 21st, 2008 at 8:35 pm
ha, ha, this is pretty funny. These guys are worried about the reputation of the republican party? Jeff Flake, John Shadegg, and Trent Franks, are each responsible for the death of over a million people by invading two sovereign’s countries and they are worried about the reputation of the republican party? They have trashed the bill of rights, bankrupted our country, left thousands homeless from bank fraud, need I say more, and they are worried about the reputation of the republican party? This is probably the funniest thing I have ever heard. Can the reputation of the republican part go down anymore? I can’t imagine how.
August 21st, 2008 at 9:30 pm
I told you gang-Its already starting. You can stop blaming the New Times for all the bad press because Az Republic just disavoyed itself with Pearce as well as endorced Gibbons.
Also, how come a liberal like myself knew JT Ready was a neo-Nazi in March of 2007 and you are all acting like you had no info?
Own it gang.
Read it and weep. And i hate to say I told you but…I TOLD YOU!
More info is a coming. You may want to reconcider Pearce as your man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi9izfNXxzo
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/08/21/20080821ready0821.html
More will be revealed. Arpaio has neo-Nazi ties as well as does Andrew Thomas and the BOS have been kissing up to a few lately as well. The only way to fix this now is to stop trying to cover it up or ignore it.
August 21st, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Hunter,
You asked what would us critics do? Come clean, learn the truth and review all the info. If you have any integrity that is what you will do.
August 23rd, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Does it strike anyone else as strange that Zionists and La Raza scum are never labeled as “racist supremacists” or “hate” groups? It is only a crime if you are White these days.
By the way, no Sun Wheel (“swastika” for you ignorant types) was lit at the Omaha rally in front of the Mexican consulate. There are many inaccuracies in many statements made by these three blind mice. I cringe to think of these congressmen in charge of any intelligence of a national security level.
Furthermore, it seems that those who trumpet free speech, freedom of the press, the right to assemble, and democracy the most, are the first and most viciously vocal to oppose those very same principles when someone whom they disagree with exercises those same exact rights.
These tyrants can not battle my ideals with better ideas. So they use bully tactics to try to harm me. But this just helps to prove my point that I am right.
So, thanks for the endorsement Franks, Shadegg and Flake.
P.S. This Hunter character is a liar and a fraud. Russell never asked me not to run. I certainly would not step down from ofice either. Russell did not ask me to do that either. The fact is that I am moving from that third world hellhole which I have been a PC in since 2002 (not just 2006) and I have lived in for 12 years. It would be dishonest of me to run to further represent my neighbors as their PC if I plan on moving. Even if that would have been some serious soap in the eyes of those opposed to me.
February 15th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
I don’t write many comments, but this time (at least) I agree completely.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:06 am
I noticed that this is not the first time at all that you write about the topic. Why have you chosen it again?
November 7th, 2009 at 3:04 am
Tony Bouie is a great Republican and i’m glad he decided to join our party. Now, This Nazi guy needs to go, preferably on his own, but if there needs to be a vote on it, I will knock on doors and make sure people in his area know the truth.
March 4th, 2010 at 1:35 am
I used to have a mouse – my blog tells you how to get rid of a mouse.