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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/01/27/just-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-22612</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will respect your personal privilege and acceptance of responsibility to think and reason according to your own conscience.  That is all I ask of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will respect your personal privilege and acceptance of responsibility to think and reason according to your own conscience.  That is all I ask of others.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben F.</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/01/27/just-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-22599</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANN,

I hope that you know Spanish fluently if J-Mac is elected because you will need it.  If that happens would you like to guess where our country&#039;s foreign policy will go?  

I am concerned about our influence around the world and that we have a strong military - my God, my son is a Bomb Disposal Tech deployed over there as we speak.  I have always believed in peace through strength.

But, even more importantly, every strong nation in history has failed internally, not as a result of its military strength.  If you won&#039;t learn from history, you are damned to repeat it.

John McCain&#039;s policies on the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, the Sovereignty of our country, the RUle of Law, Keating Five, Gang of Fourteen, ANWR, etc. etc. etc. are exactly what will lead to what we fear the most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANN,</p>
<p>I hope that you know Spanish fluently if J-Mac is elected because you will need it.  If that happens would you like to guess where our country&#8217;s foreign policy will go?  </p>
<p>I am concerned about our influence around the world and that we have a strong military &#8211; my God, my son is a Bomb Disposal Tech deployed over there as we speak.  I have always believed in peace through strength.</p>
<p>But, even more importantly, every strong nation in history has failed internally, not as a result of its military strength.  If you won&#8217;t learn from history, you are damned to repeat it.</p>
<p>John McCain&#8217;s policies on the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, the Sovereignty of our country, the RUle of Law, Keating Five, Gang of Fourteen, ANWR, etc. etc. etc. are exactly what will lead to what we fear the most.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/01/27/just-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-22533</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Ben, surely my support for Fred should offer some idea that my views are mine and mine alone.

Please enlighten me to what it is that I denigrated. Surely you do not mean Wikipedia?  Why, because I too can cut and paste?

Will someone please tell me who Bettina is?  Twice Ben has referenced her and I have no idea who he is talking about.

Out of pure respect and no hidden agenda I offer this to you.  I was a true believer in Fred and would have gone the distance.  His commitment to Federalism, his ability and willingness to call it as it is, and his well-thought conservative approach to the many, many issues we must deal with or face a certain ugliness that none of us cares to meet.

When I had to move on I did so with careful thought and consideration. I spoke to folks with an insight from experience and knowledge from other states, from within our state, and from other candidate teams.  I sincerely evaluated each one and the ability to do more than have a great campaign. I looked at what we will face home and abroad, the issues that will make or break our country.

I chose McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Ben, surely my support for Fred should offer some idea that my views are mine and mine alone.</p>
<p>Please enlighten me to what it is that I denigrated. Surely you do not mean Wikipedia?  Why, because I too can cut and paste?</p>
<p>Will someone please tell me who Bettina is?  Twice Ben has referenced her and I have no idea who he is talking about.</p>
<p>Out of pure respect and no hidden agenda I offer this to you.  I was a true believer in Fred and would have gone the distance.  His commitment to Federalism, his ability and willingness to call it as it is, and his well-thought conservative approach to the many, many issues we must deal with or face a certain ugliness that none of us cares to meet.</p>
<p>When I had to move on I did so with careful thought and consideration. I spoke to folks with an insight from experience and knowledge from other states, from within our state, and from other candidate teams.  I sincerely evaluated each one and the ability to do more than have a great campaign. I looked at what we will face home and abroad, the issues that will make or break our country.</p>
<p>I chose McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben F.</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/01/27/just-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-22525</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann,

You make me glad Fred dropped out of the race.  I cannot imagine how I could explain that we were supporting the same candidate.

I just love how you consistently try to denigrate ANY source of information that does not agree with you.  You would probably find some way to infer that the Congressional Record was wrong if it disagreed with your position. 

Welcome to McCain&#039;s Double Talk Express - all that is said there comes from Old Forked Tongue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann,</p>
<p>You make me glad Fred dropped out of the race.  I cannot imagine how I could explain that we were supporting the same candidate.</p>
<p>I just love how you consistently try to denigrate ANY source of information that does not agree with you.  You would probably find some way to infer that the Congressional Record was wrong if it disagreed with your position. </p>
<p>Welcome to McCain&#8217;s Double Talk Express &#8211; all that is said there comes from Old Forked Tongue.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/01/27/just-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-22485</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039; think that the new Kennedy-Obama coalition will bring up every possible thing to make Romney look like a John Kerry replica, think again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217; think that the new Kennedy-Obama coalition will bring up every possible thing to make Romney look like a John Kerry replica, think again.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/01/27/just-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-22464</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, was it the rain tht made you all cranky?  Good post Ann.  I would love to see McCain choose Thompson as his running mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, was it the rain tht made you all cranky?  Good post Ann.  I would love to see McCain choose Thompson as his running mate.</p>
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		<title>By: Kralmajales</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/01/27/just-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-22463</link>
		<dc:creator>Kralmajales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was waiting for someone to start posting Romney&#039;s record and I am rather shocked that McCain or Rudy hasn&#039;t started bringing it up.  Its not that hard to find if you look at government records in Massachusetts.

Well done, Ann.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was waiting for someone to start posting Romney&#8217;s record and I am rather shocked that McCain or Rudy hasn&#8217;t started bringing it up.  Its not that hard to find if you look at government records in Massachusetts.</p>
<p>Well done, Ann.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/01/27/just-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-22458</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh John! :) I meant Clinton et al!

Ben,

Wikipedia? Honestly.  Did you go in and edit it, which is of course absolutely the way that site is compiled.  Any one with half a wit can put whatever they want on that site.  And anything taken out of context with some of the  surrounding words taken away can make apoint.  Here are some examples, taken out of context, from Wikipedia:

*Romney supported raising various fees, increased the state gasoline tax.

*The combined state and local tax burden in Massachusetts increased during Romney&#039;s governorship.

*Romney signed the law which requires nearly all Massachusetts residents to buy health insurance coverage or else face a substantial penalty in the form of an additional income tax assessment.

*Romney backed a state constitutional amendment in February 2004 that would allow civil unions. In May 2004 Romney instructed town clerks to begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

*Romney was filmed participating in a Pro-Choice Planned Parenthood fund raiser in 1994 in conjunction with a family contribution, and has made many pro-choice comments in the past.

*Romney has been a strong supporter of gun control legislation and enforcement

*Romney&#039;s lawn care company had illegal aliens working at his private residence for nearly a decade and Romney had them fired after the fact was revealed during his current campaign for President.

I do not dislike Romney nor do I have any need or desire to discredit him.  He is a fine man and is due respect and admiration. In its entirety, it is very flattering.  But if someone wants to make a point, it could be done.

Hey guys, I do not want a President Clinton or Obama.  I do not want to ever see the destruction our country faced on 9-11 be waged in a shopping mall or elementary school.  I do not want to pay $5 a gallon for gas and I do not want my children to accept the cost of years of free spending while tax cuts pacify the unrest.

At this point I am more worried about the A-Bomb than the F-Bomb. I am more concerned about spending AND tax cuts rather than pacification and semantical appeasement. I want someone who knows what is what and where the bodies are buried.  The learning curve is steep for this job, we saw what happened when a well-meaning Governor was thrust into an untested position and leaned heavily on advisers. 

Sure I wish I could still be a Fredhead, but in looking at the choices, McCain is the one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh John! <img src='http://sonoranalliance.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I meant Clinton et al!</p>
<p>Ben,</p>
<p>Wikipedia? Honestly.  Did you go in and edit it, which is of course absolutely the way that site is compiled.  Any one with half a wit can put whatever they want on that site.  And anything taken out of context with some of the  surrounding words taken away can make apoint.  Here are some examples, taken out of context, from Wikipedia:</p>
<p>*Romney supported raising various fees, increased the state gasoline tax.</p>
<p>*The combined state and local tax burden in Massachusetts increased during Romney&#8217;s governorship.</p>
<p>*Romney signed the law which requires nearly all Massachusetts residents to buy health insurance coverage or else face a substantial penalty in the form of an additional income tax assessment.</p>
<p>*Romney backed a state constitutional amendment in February 2004 that would allow civil unions. In May 2004 Romney instructed town clerks to begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.</p>
<p>*Romney was filmed participating in a Pro-Choice Planned Parenthood fund raiser in 1994 in conjunction with a family contribution, and has made many pro-choice comments in the past.</p>
<p>*Romney has been a strong supporter of gun control legislation and enforcement</p>
<p>*Romney&#8217;s lawn care company had illegal aliens working at his private residence for nearly a decade and Romney had them fired after the fact was revealed during his current campaign for President.</p>
<p>I do not dislike Romney nor do I have any need or desire to discredit him.  He is a fine man and is due respect and admiration. In its entirety, it is very flattering.  But if someone wants to make a point, it could be done.</p>
<p>Hey guys, I do not want a President Clinton or Obama.  I do not want to ever see the destruction our country faced on 9-11 be waged in a shopping mall or elementary school.  I do not want to pay $5 a gallon for gas and I do not want my children to accept the cost of years of free spending while tax cuts pacify the unrest.</p>
<p>At this point I am more worried about the A-Bomb than the F-Bomb. I am more concerned about spending AND tax cuts rather than pacification and semantical appeasement. I want someone who knows what is what and where the bodies are buried.  The learning curve is steep for this job, we saw what happened when a well-meaning Governor was thrust into an untested position and leaned heavily on advisers. </p>
<p>Sure I wish I could still be a Fredhead, but in looking at the choices, McCain is the one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben F.</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/01/27/just-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-22426</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS:  This morning at 4:55 am - Joe Scarborough, &quot;John McCain saying some bizarre things.&quot;

The more things change, the more they stay the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS:  This morning at 4:55 am &#8211; Joe Scarborough, &#8220;John McCain saying some bizarre things.&#8221;</p>
<p>The more things change, the more they stay the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben F.</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/01/27/just-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-22424</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann must be the twin of Bettina Nava - an unpaid staffer for McCain.  Anyone who is that blindly supportive of our Senor Senator is not willing to look at the facts.  

Wikepedia uses these adjectives to describe him:

quick temper
aggressive
fiery
contentious
rebellious
lackluster naval academy record
unconcerned with naval regulations
political maverick
Keating Five
poor judgment
has &quot;unbounded respect and admiration&quot; for John Kerry
grandstanding
lead sponsor of gun-control legislation
rebelliousness
compromised his principles for pollitical gain
an impatient man
loses allies by telling off other Senators
the most difficult Senator on Capitol Hill
second &quot;hottest temper&quot; in the Senate
irremedial wiseass

Not the type of personality we need as the most powerful person in the world - It would bring a whole new meaning to the term &quot;Ugly American.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann must be the twin of Bettina Nava &#8211; an unpaid staffer for McCain.  Anyone who is that blindly supportive of our Senor Senator is not willing to look at the facts.  </p>
<p>Wikepedia uses these adjectives to describe him:</p>
<p>quick temper<br />
aggressive<br />
fiery<br />
contentious<br />
rebellious<br />
lackluster naval academy record<br />
unconcerned with naval regulations<br />
political maverick<br />
Keating Five<br />
poor judgment<br />
has &#8220;unbounded respect and admiration&#8221; for John Kerry<br />
grandstanding<br />
lead sponsor of gun-control legislation<br />
rebelliousness<br />
compromised his principles for pollitical gain<br />
an impatient man<br />
loses allies by telling off other Senators<br />
the most difficult Senator on Capitol Hill<br />
second &#8220;hottest temper&#8221; in the Senate<br />
irremedial wiseass</p>
<p>Not the type of personality we need as the most powerful person in the world &#8211; It would bring a whole new meaning to the term &#8220;Ugly American.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2008/01/27/just-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-22411</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why am I now stuck with an image of Ann doodling with the interns or aides?  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why am I now stuck with an image of Ann doodling with the interns or aides?  <img src='http://sonoranalliance.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, McCain-Feingold was actually McCain-Feingold-Cochran. 

Thad Cochran is a very good man but cut from a different cloth than McCain. Thad has a grand piano in his office and can play it well.  He was a college cheerleader at Ole Miss while McCain was at the Naval Academy and fighting a war. Not good or bad on either account, just different personalities and experiences.  

I cannot imagine the he is the first and only angry senator to say those words to another.  Furthermore, I doubt if he was the only senator to say it on that day! McCain is a third generation sailor, so where&#039;s the surprise that he has a potty mouth? At least he isn&#039;t doodling with the interns or aides.  Been there, done that and don&#039;t want to go back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, McCain-Feingold was actually McCain-Feingold-Cochran. </p>
<p>Thad Cochran is a very good man but cut from a different cloth than McCain. Thad has a grand piano in his office and can play it well.  He was a college cheerleader at Ole Miss while McCain was at the Naval Academy and fighting a war. Not good or bad on either account, just different personalities and experiences.  </p>
<p>I cannot imagine the he is the first and only angry senator to say those words to another.  Furthermore, I doubt if he was the only senator to say it on that day! McCain is a third generation sailor, so where&#8217;s the surprise that he has a potty mouth? At least he isn&#8217;t doodling with the interns or aides.  Been there, done that and don&#8217;t want to go back.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann, good call. By the way, didn&#039;t Santorum also back Arlen Specter when he was challenged by Club for Growth poster boy Pat Toomey? Specter is MUCH more liberal than McCain. My guess is that McCain chewed his ass one day and Santorum didn&#039;t like it. I always thought of Santorum as a weasel.

On the subject of McCain&#039;s celebrated temper, did anyone see what Senator Thad Cochran said the other day about McCain when he endorsed Romney? He referred to McCain as &quot;erratic&quot; and &quot;a hothead.&quot; McCain was asked about this on Meet the Press and dismissed Cochran as &quot;an appropriator&quot; who must be upset about McCain&#039;s battles against pork. Anyone buying that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann, good call. By the way, didn&#8217;t Santorum also back Arlen Specter when he was challenged by Club for Growth poster boy Pat Toomey? Specter is MUCH more liberal than McCain. My guess is that McCain chewed his ass one day and Santorum didn&#8217;t like it. I always thought of Santorum as a weasel.</p>
<p>On the subject of McCain&#8217;s celebrated temper, did anyone see what Senator Thad Cochran said the other day about McCain when he endorsed Romney? He referred to McCain as &#8220;erratic&#8221; and &#8220;a hothead.&#8221; McCain was asked about this on Meet the Press and dismissed Cochran as &#8220;an appropriator&#8221; who must be upset about McCain&#8217;s battles against pork. Anyone buying that?</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very interesting that when Santorum was fighting for his political life in 2006, who did he call?  John McCain.  He asked for and received John McCain to stump for him and appreciated the endorsement so much that he put the video on his web site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very interesting that when Santorum was fighting for his political life in 2006, who did he call?  John McCain.  He asked for and received John McCain to stump for him and appreciated the endorsement so much that he put the video on his web site.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, factual and lets folks draw their own conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, factual and lets folks draw their own conclusions.</p>
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