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		<title>By: Republican Spartan</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2007/12/19/ld-26-update/comment-page-1/#comment-18009</link>
		<dc:creator>Republican Spartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clean elections may not be the lay of the land for long.  Speeding infractions (the primary funding source) have decreased since 2002, therefore revenue is down and more candidates than expected are running on clean elections.  They may actually run out of money on this election cycle which means they&#039;ll have to run to the legislature to keep it solvent.

Hopefully the legislature (particularly with the current budget climate) will put a fork in it by not providing supplemental funding.

Then what will they do???  Tell the cops to start handing out more speeding tickets?  This is the vicious cycle when you take something that is supposed to be a punitive deterrent to minor crime (traffic fines) and turn it into a revenue stream for a government run program.  What is especially heinous is that the government that controls the program also controls the cops.

Do your part to help put a fork in Clean Elections: Drive Safely and don’t speed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clean elections may not be the lay of the land for long.  Speeding infractions (the primary funding source) have decreased since 2002, therefore revenue is down and more candidates than expected are running on clean elections.  They may actually run out of money on this election cycle which means they&#8217;ll have to run to the legislature to keep it solvent.</p>
<p>Hopefully the legislature (particularly with the current budget climate) will put a fork in it by not providing supplemental funding.</p>
<p>Then what will they do???  Tell the cops to start handing out more speeding tickets?  This is the vicious cycle when you take something that is supposed to be a punitive deterrent to minor crime (traffic fines) and turn it into a revenue stream for a government run program.  What is especially heinous is that the government that controls the program also controls the cops.</p>
<p>Do your part to help put a fork in Clean Elections: Drive Safely and don’t speed!</p>
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		<title>By: ThinkRight</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2007/12/19/ld-26-update/comment-page-1/#comment-18005</link>
		<dc:creator>ThinkRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing &quot;clean&quot; about it, but it is the lay of the land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing &#8220;clean&#8221; about it, but it is the lay of the land.</p>
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		<title>By: Oro Valley Dad</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2007/12/19/ld-26-update/comment-page-1/#comment-17987</link>
		<dc:creator>Oro Valley Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spartan,

That is kind of like telling someone they can’t be a good Republican and send their kids to public school because they are using money “that was confiscated from Arizonans.” I voted against Clean Elections but the fact is that the majority of the citizens voted for it (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.azsos.gov/results/1998general/BM200.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prop 200 in ‘98&lt;/a&gt;.) Not only does the act use money taken from individuals by the state but also it heavily penalizes traditional fundraising. So a candidate is caught in a bind. If I give to my candidate I am essentially supporting the opponent as well. That is not very Republican either. I do not think Clean Elections makes for a perfect test of who is and is not a good Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spartan,</p>
<p>That is kind of like telling someone they can’t be a good Republican and send their kids to public school because they are using money “that was confiscated from Arizonans.” I voted against Clean Elections but the fact is that the majority of the citizens voted for it (<a href="http://www.azsos.gov/results/1998general/BM200.htm" rel="nofollow">Prop 200 in ‘98</a>.) Not only does the act use money taken from individuals by the state but also it heavily penalizes traditional fundraising. So a candidate is caught in a bind. If I give to my candidate I am essentially supporting the opponent as well. That is not very Republican either. I do not think Clean Elections makes for a perfect test of who is and is not a good Republican.</p>
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		<title>By: Republican Spartan</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2007/12/19/ld-26-update/comment-page-1/#comment-17975</link>
		<dc:creator>Republican Spartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the word &quot;Reagan Republican&quot; thrown around.  Are any of these candidates that claim to be in that category of a &quot;Reagan Republican&quot; aspiring to follow one of Reagan&#039;s key conservative principles:  Less reliance, less dependence on and reducing the size and role of the government.  Or are they doing the opposite and relying on a handout from the State to fund their campaigns?  Money, by the way, that was confiscated from Arizonans in the form of “additional fees” on traffic citations when in all actuality they constitute nothing more than a “Speeding Tax” since they have explicit purpose of raising revenue to fund the so called “Clean Elections” system.

I would think that relying on the private sector and the WILLING contributions of individuals that financially support their campaign would be more “Republican” than getting money that was confiscated from people under the threat of imprisonment and the economic penalty of having their driver’s license revoked, which to me, sounds like communism.  

I think it’s going to be very hard to stand in front of fellow Republicans and tout Reagan credentials while on the “campaign welfare” system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the word &#8220;Reagan Republican&#8221; thrown around.  Are any of these candidates that claim to be in that category of a &#8220;Reagan Republican&#8221; aspiring to follow one of Reagan&#8217;s key conservative principles:  Less reliance, less dependence on and reducing the size and role of the government.  Or are they doing the opposite and relying on a handout from the State to fund their campaigns?  Money, by the way, that was confiscated from Arizonans in the form of “additional fees” on traffic citations when in all actuality they constitute nothing more than a “Speeding Tax” since they have explicit purpose of raising revenue to fund the so called “Clean Elections” system.</p>
<p>I would think that relying on the private sector and the WILLING contributions of individuals that financially support their campaign would be more “Republican” than getting money that was confiscated from people under the threat of imprisonment and the economic penalty of having their driver’s license revoked, which to me, sounds like communism.  </p>
<p>I think it’s going to be very hard to stand in front of fellow Republicans and tout Reagan credentials while on the “campaign welfare” system.</p>
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		<title>By: todd beck</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2007/12/19/ld-26-update/comment-page-1/#comment-17954</link>
		<dc:creator>todd beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think Right has no clue who he is defending. I think he is just a Republican Cheerleader. Can&#039;t fault him for that but he is way off the mark. 
I agree about the carpetbagger issue not being a big deal but how does someone continue to hold a ledership post in a distict where he is running in contested Republican Primary in that very district ? 
How fair is that ? 
How does that person also sign checks as the treasurer of the Pima County Party when that same party may end up allocating resources to his district. Smells of Conflict of Interest to me...Why would anyone running expecting to gain the public trust even allow himself or his party held up to that kind of potenital conflict...real or perceived it is still a potential problem for the Party and the District. Just because some may think it could be done, the question is should it be done ?
Think right is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think Right has no clue who he is defending. I think he is just a Republican Cheerleader. Can&#8217;t fault him for that but he is way off the mark.<br />
I agree about the carpetbagger issue not being a big deal but how does someone continue to hold a ledership post in a distict where he is running in contested Republican Primary in that very district ?<br />
How fair is that ?<br />
How does that person also sign checks as the treasurer of the Pima County Party when that same party may end up allocating resources to his district. Smells of Conflict of Interest to me&#8230;Why would anyone running expecting to gain the public trust even allow himself or his party held up to that kind of potenital conflict&#8230;real or perceived it is still a potential problem for the Party and the District. Just because some may think it could be done, the question is should it be done ?<br />
Think right is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: ThinkRight</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThinkRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, they&#039;re all carpetbaggers!  Darn it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, they&#8217;re all carpetbaggers!  Darn it all.</p>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ThinkRight, Jenkins did stay as district chair. He also lost.

Pete was born in Denver. Doesn&#039;t exactly qualify as a native.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ThinkRight, Jenkins did stay as district chair. He also lost.</p>
<p>Pete was born in Denver. Doesn&#8217;t exactly qualify as a native.</p>
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		<title>By: ThinkRight</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2007/12/19/ld-26-update/comment-page-1/#comment-17914</link>
		<dc:creator>ThinkRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carpetbagger?

Al is from California
Trent is from Montana
Marilyn is from North Dakota
Vic is from California
Pete is from Arizona.

So you&#039;re supporting Pete since he is the only native Arizonan?

I&#039;m no native Arizonan either (WA, OR &amp; CA), &amp; with the massive influx of residents from other states, that argument may cause people to vote FOR him.

Vic has volunteered for years, for many candidates - I&#039;m not aware of any &quot;personal agenda&quot;, but I&#039;m sure he has personal issues that are important to him that he&#039;d like to see improve.

Being 1st Vice Chair of the district won&#039;t alter any votes.  Those supporting the different candidates that attend the meetings know them and will make their decisions based on who they want.    

Doesn&#039;t make any sense attacking these folks.  Let them all craft their messages and see which ones appeal to you.  

Merry Christmas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carpetbagger?</p>
<p>Al is from California<br />
Trent is from Montana<br />
Marilyn is from North Dakota<br />
Vic is from California<br />
Pete is from Arizona.</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re supporting Pete since he is the only native Arizonan?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no native Arizonan either (WA, OR &amp; CA), &amp; with the massive influx of residents from other states, that argument may cause people to vote FOR him.</p>
<p>Vic has volunteered for years, for many candidates &#8211; I&#8217;m not aware of any &#8220;personal agenda&#8221;, but I&#8217;m sure he has personal issues that are important to him that he&#8217;d like to see improve.</p>
<p>Being 1st Vice Chair of the district won&#8217;t alter any votes.  Those supporting the different candidates that attend the meetings know them and will make their decisions based on who they want.    </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t make any sense attacking these folks.  Let them all craft their messages and see which ones appeal to you.  </p>
<p>Merry Christmas</p>
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		<title>By: anonymouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Williams guy always wants it both ways. I admire people who just want to serve without a personal agenda. He won&#039;t resign cause without these titles he is just a carpetbagger from California with a massive ego who wants to be a big fish in a small pond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Williams guy always wants it both ways. I admire people who just want to serve without a personal agenda. He won&#8217;t resign cause without these titles he is just a carpetbagger from California with a massive ego who wants to be a big fish in a small pond.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 05:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a personal decision, but anyone who keeps a seat in their district while running for office in that district is only making themselves look bad. The person needs to decide if they really want to run. If he isn&#039;t sure, then he should back out. If he is running for sure, he should drop the district job and make it clear he&#039;s not using the position just to get himself in front of people. Playing both sides looks weak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a personal decision, but anyone who keeps a seat in their district while running for office in that district is only making themselves look bad. The person needs to decide if they really want to run. If he isn&#8217;t sure, then he should back out. If he is running for sure, he should drop the district job and make it clear he&#8217;s not using the position just to get himself in front of people. Playing both sides looks weak.</p>
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		<title>By: ThinkRight</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThinkRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Jenkins ran for Congress in CD 8 and kept his seat as District Chair in 2006 &amp; the field was much larger.

Vic has put in a lot of time &amp; effort for not only the Republican Party but for other community efforts.
  
The other candidates had the opportunity to serve &amp; I know Marilyn did put her name in the ring for D 26 leadership.  I don&#039;t think Trent did.     

If he has the time &amp; energy to maintain both positions, then no problem.  He&#039;s volunteered on campaigns since I&#039;ve known him (2005 Tucson Council GOTV Chair, etc...)  &amp; runs impartial meetings when David Smith asks him to.

Come to think of it, Vic ran unoppossed for those positions.  He really stepped up when no one else would &amp; he took on the  responsibility to maintain D 26.

Disclaimer: I know all the candidates and will support their efforts.  The goal is to unite &amp; make sure that Republicans control D 26 in 2008.  I know Pete, Al, Marilyn, Trent &amp; Vic and they would all serve much better than the Dems.  Let&#039;s work together to make sure we recognize Reagan&#039;s 11th Commandment &amp; focus on the issues &amp; winning back D 26.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Jenkins ran for Congress in CD 8 and kept his seat as District Chair in 2006 &amp; the field was much larger.</p>
<p>Vic has put in a lot of time &amp; effort for not only the Republican Party but for other community efforts.</p>
<p>The other candidates had the opportunity to serve &amp; I know Marilyn did put her name in the ring for D 26 leadership.  I don&#8217;t think Trent did.     </p>
<p>If he has the time &amp; energy to maintain both positions, then no problem.  He&#8217;s volunteered on campaigns since I&#8217;ve known him (2005 Tucson Council GOTV Chair, etc&#8230;)  &amp; runs impartial meetings when David Smith asks him to.</p>
<p>Come to think of it, Vic ran unoppossed for those positions.  He really stepped up when no one else would &amp; he took on the  responsibility to maintain D 26.</p>
<p>Disclaimer: I know all the candidates and will support their efforts.  The goal is to unite &amp; make sure that Republicans control D 26 in 2008.  I know Pete, Al, Marilyn, Trent &amp; Vic and they would all serve much better than the Dems.  Let&#8217;s work together to make sure we recognize Reagan&#8217;s 11th Commandment &amp; focus on the issues &amp; winning back D 26.</p>
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		<title>By: sam s</title>
		<link>http://sonoranalliance.com/2007/12/19/ld-26-update/comment-page-1/#comment-17839</link>
		<dc:creator>sam s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can a candidate keep seats on the Board and in a legilative district where he is running ? How fair is that ? My wife says i should shut up cause he is better looking than most of the Republicans that come to the LD 26 meetings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can a candidate keep seats on the Board and in a legilative district where he is running ? How fair is that ? My wife says i should shut up cause he is better looking than most of the Republicans that come to the LD 26 meetings</p>
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