Democrats Debate – Observations


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Tonight, the Democrats gathered in South Carolina to debate. Most who watched, believe Barak Obama won handily. Here’s a few observation by this blogger.

Hillary Clinton will NOT win the primaries but will win the nomination for President, Vice President.

Most Democrats loved Obama because he came off sincere but they also felt Clinton was telling them what they wanted to hear.

Democratic voters focus more on presonality over policy.

However, the same voters believe the team of Obama and Clinton will be a winning ticket for their party.

Look for both candidates to quickly realize this and lay off one another – they need each other to win. The minute they go negative on each other will be the minute their constituent base divides.

The Republicans better get their act together and find someone dynamic who can unify the party.


Comments

  1. As a Democrat, it has been refreshing to hear the realism and candor offered by Joe Biden in all of these forums, especially on the subjects of Iraq and Sudan. His experience and lack of interest in expediency shines over all the other candidates, although Clinton was spot on last night when she said she would not pledge to meet with Chavez, Castro and Kim Jong-Il.

    Biden’s chances for the nomination are not as strong as others, but he is saying what needs to be said in order for voters to come to trust Democrats with regard to national security and foreign policy. Bush has made our country and the world more vulnerable, but Democrats need to studiously avoid adopting the Move.on playbook. Our role on the world stage requires a president who is thoughtful, pragmatic, patient and willing to re-embrace diplomacy while also knowing its limits and limitations.

    As for the GOP uniting behind someone, my guess is that you will ultimately back Romney due to the fact that the other major candidates are flawed in some critical way and Thompson will not elicit the support in the long run to match the early interest he has nurtured. It will be fun to watch the party that mocked one Massachusetts flip-flopper embrace another one. However, if the country wanted a real race between two guys who are (so far) blunt and direct about what they really believe, we’d all benefit from a Biden-Huckabee race!

  2. confused says:

    DSW- What do you mean in the thread when you say
    Hillary will not win the primaries but will win the nomination for president…?

  3. Confused,

    I was wondering the same thing…

  4. She will win her party nomination but it will be for Vice-President. The sentiment among Dems is that she is not the one to put at the top of the ticket. My statement does not mean that she will win the General Election next November, although the Dems think they could put a winning ticket together in Obama/Clinton.

  5. DSW,

    I had the opposite impression. Look at the way Hillary co-opted Biden on Iraq policy. That was not pandering to her base. I have yet to see Obama or Edwards make any issue stance that is likely to be controversial to the liberal base, and quite frankly, that scares me. Especially as there is very little record for either of them to make me think that they are capable of making a tough choice at all.

    Hillary is getting the nomination, and she will then dismiss Obama and Edwards from the game immediately. There will be no Clinton-Obama ticket.

  6. Clinton Richardson is the ticket. He knows where the bodies are buried and kept their secrets as a cabinet member. He plays well in the west and (hate to say it) win AZ, NV and NM. He’s easily viewed as the most conservative of the D candidates and gets decent scores from the NRA.

  7. Richardson is definately running for Vice President, and he is showing strength with his foreign policy. It could be an Obama Richardson ticket. Many people love to hate Hilary, whereas the hate is not nearly as strong for the other Democrat candidates.

  8. Nah, Hillary will win out. She’s up by 30 point in states like Florida. Too much organization, too much strength, too many suicidal Democrats. God bless them all!

  9. I’m putting my 2 cents behind a Hillary and anybody but Obama or Edwards ticket in the end. Edwards will implode long before the need to name a number two and Obama will be left on the vine to ripen and be the new Senate leadership for the future and candidate for another day.

    As for VP…. I can’t see Biden next to Hillary. Whether he would even consider such a thing is in question but if he would, he just wouldn’t keep his mouth shut and she would never stand for that. Richardson is a good pick, he would be strong in the west and his resume’ is impressive. He can’t handle the spotlight but does well under the pressure of real life.

  10. As a Dem, I have many observations on DSW’s post:

    Hillary Clinton is not a lock on the nomination. Obama is outnumbering her in donors, money, and steadily gaining on her. Edwards also leads in Iowa and South Carolina (and most likely Nevada if Richardson hasn’t made head-way).

    None of the top three (Clinton, Obama, Edwards) will accept a VP nod. If Clinton loses, she’ll be groomed by Harry Reid to become the next Majority Leader. Obama can wait longer. Edwards, well, been there, done that.

    Richardson is the most likely VP nominee at this point. I think he’d make a better Sec of State.

    Romney would most likely be swamped by Clinton, I doubt he can even consolidate the Republican vote, much less sway moderate Independents (who love Hillary). However, it’s possible a Clinton candidacy would hurt the Dems down-ticket.

    The debating between Clinton and Obama isn’t even close to where it will be, although I doubt they will go completely negative.

  11. nightcrawler says:

    I have to grudgingly admit that Hillary performed well in the debate. I agree the bid is not a lock. Obama may indeed seize the momentum in the final days.

    Romney would do much better against Clinton than you think. Clinton is a divisive candidate and would certainly energize the conservatives like no other. I don’t buy that moderate independents love Clinton. Richardson is quite experienced but lacks euthusism and presence. A dud.

    The general will be decided by the vast and great middle, many of whom are more conservative than meets the eye.

  12. “The general will be decided by the vast and great middle, many of whom are more conservative than meets the eye.”

    If the great middle and Independents are the same thing, which I generally agree with, then you’re dead wrong. They aren’t liberal, either, but I certainly wouldn’t say they are going to support Republicans in 2008. Quite frankly, indy’s have had it with GOP governance. Every poll since mid-2005 has corroborated this.

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